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#15171 Fri 01 Apr 2005 10:04:PM
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<br /> <br /> <small>[ 01. April 2005, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: Satfreak ]</small>

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It's going ok, why?<br /><br />Vlad...

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BN & BK are doing fine from what I can see.

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I think Satfreak is hinting that something is about to happen to these channels ?? Maybey it has something to do with the court case between UBI and TVPLUS who knows? Will be interesting to see the outcome of that anyway....<br /><br />following on...<br />Satfreak why you only come here to put UBI down..<br />How bout being proactive. i.e. lAdvising TVplus subscribers when the blurry picture is going to become clear... i'm sick of wearing these 3 inch spectacles!!!<br /> <br /> <small>[ 01. April 2005, 03:12 PM: Message edited by: Bedouin ]</small>

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Why is RTV BN and Media System GMBH a Applicant and Respondent does anyone know what this means??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br /><br />Also who are Media System GMBH?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br /><br /> http://esearch.fedcourt.gov.au/Esearch?p=further_details&det=coa_parties&mat_id=3452493 <br /><br />Current Participants <br /><br />Applicant MEDIA SYSTEM GMBH <br />Applicant RTV BK TELECOM <br />Applicant RTV BN <br />Applicant TV PLUS BOARDCASTING COMPANY PTY LTD (ACN 112 571 329) <br />Applicant TV PLUS INT PTY LTD <br />Applicant TV PLUS OPERATIONS COMPANY PTY LTD<br />(ACN 110 294 294) <br />Respondent BOULOS, MARIA REGINA <br />Respondent MEDIA SYSTEM GMBH <br />Respondent RTV BN <br />Respondent UNITED BROADCASTING INTERNATIONAL PTY LTD (ACN 110 092 049)<br /> <br /> <small>[ 01. April 2005, 03:37 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

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Lazer check that out...<br /><br /> http://www.rtvpink.com/eng/pink/company/mediaSystem.php <br />I think the "GMBH" indicates it's a German registered company<br />I also think, they operate parts or all of pink plus<br /> <br /> <small>[ 01. April 2005, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: reuder ]</small>

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ok thanks Reuder<br /><br />still confused about how they are both Applicant and Respondent hhhhhmmmm.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

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Lazer,<br /><br />Media System Gmbh is an Austrian Company based in Vienna. They have Direct links with Pink International Television Company (Pink TV) and they also have their own television studio in Vienna.<br /><br />At one stage a while back they even produced some tv shows from their Vienna studio for the TV Plus satellite channel.<br /><br />They also produce various other types of media (commercials, promos, etc) and put on various programs in popular Vienna Nightclubs which are then shown (either live or taped and shown later) on TV Plus satellite channel.<br /><br />Although not owned by Zeljko Mitrovic (owner of Pink TV), word is he helped with the startup funding costs, and that is why, just about anything Media System do is shown on Pink TV satellite channels.<br /><br />There are some other things that link Media System, Pink TV, and other individuals, but none of them make for interesting reading.<br /><br />As for your other question, the "Applicant" and "Respondent" are the two opposing sides in the court case in these types of litigation. For example, in a criminal or civil case, the two parties would be referred to as the "Plaintiff" and the "Defendant". But I don't see any logic to Media System Gmbh & RTV BN being respondents.<br /><br />I hope this has helped.<br /><br /><br />SATFREAK, very very soon you will realise I know a lot more about a lot of things, than you could even imagine. Your totally oblivious to who I am. All anyone has to do is look at my command of the English language compared to yours, and that tells them all they need to know.<br />Don't smile too hard, your face may crack<br /><br />Regards All,<br />Paja<br /> <br /> <small>[ 01. April 2005, 05:03 PM: Message edited by: Paja ]</small>

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Satfreak:<br /><strong> Liski<br /><br />How is BN & BK going??? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Check out http://esearch.fedcourt.gov.au/Esearch?p=further_details&det=coa_order&mat_id=3452493<br /><br />i think satfreak is referring to the orders!

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Thanks for the reply Paja <br /><br />Yeh doesnt make sence to me either why RTV BN and Media Systems GMBH are both Repondent and Applicant <br /><br />Should't they just be the Applicants along with TV PLUS

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<br /> <br /> <small>[ 01. April 2005, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: Satfreak ]</small>

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<br /> <br /> <small>[ 01. April 2005, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: Satfreak ]</small>

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<br /> <br /> <small>[ 01. April 2005, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: Satfreak ]</small>

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fuck mate... <br />I almost feel like rallying up people to hold off signing up to TV+ (if they would for any reason have the intention in the first place, considering the appalling quality of their, so called, service) if for nothing else then to starve them out of business.<br /><br />There is nothing more I hate than arrogance! Oh and Satfreak, I am disappointed in you, from the aspect of your sly, cunning remarks!<br /><br />But you know what...you can jump up and down all you want, TV+ will die. And it won't be from the fierce competition or whatever. It'll be from the attitude towards their clients and business. TARBS had a advantage when it started as customers have never had anything like this before and never had the need to look into how, what and why. This time around, out of desperation they have had to scunge around for info on where their programs have gone to and what they need to do to get them back.<br />Lucky for themselves they have had to hunt for info and now that it is all out in the open, opportunism to make a quick buck, like TV+ wants to do, has well and truly gone! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />I know "Serbs" here in Sydney who have even started up monthly editorials in order to make a buck. So they copied material from other papers, got writers from Serbia to fax 'em stories (offcourse they never paid them), got Serbs that work in the printing industry to talk to their bosses to print these editorials and would pay for 'em later (the printers never got paid and consequently the Serbs working there lost their job over the incident...any way....3 issues came out, the guy flogged it wherever he could and....well lets just say he couldn't keep going <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br />I hate that attitude! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br /><br />Vlad...

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Well when that happens Satfreak UBI will go one way, Tv Plus can go the other But what will not change is the fact that When all this shit happened and and Around the time when TV plus was formed some coward with extreme skills of the internet masking his ip's so they can't be backtraced abused me, That I can handle but abused My wife and kids and told me in Serbia during the war this is what we do with kids.<br />What a low life, I have been on forums for 9 Years and I never have experienced this. Now as we all know we can't accuse anyone because of the way things are today but I can tell you if it was not for the Trouble between UBI and TV Plus the abuse to my family would have never eventuated, So make your own conclusion for the Motivation why a person would go out of there way to do this just because I'm biased towards UBI without being on there payroll.<br />At the end of the day as GOD is my witness I will get my revenge,Again you cannot accuse anyone today because you never know who would have ever done this low act.

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agreed

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Well... U.B.I. stopped broadcasting BN TV & BK TV until the end of Court Dispute with Tv+ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <br />Hopefully, it should be resolved in mid May and than we can make our choices...<br /><br />A bad day for satellite TV in Australia <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" />

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yep sure is gone will see the outcome in May<br /> <br /> <small>[ 01. April 2005, 08:00 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

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this is good indication who has rights to broadcast those channels .......<br /><br />I bet my ass UBI did not stop it voluntarily ....<br /><br />they were ordered to stop broadcasting and most probably lodged a complaint which will see it's day in court in mid may ......

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Yes but I said earlier it could be a blessing for UBI. I'm sick of this shit between both the companies.<br />If the day comes that UBI loses all these channels all the crap between the two companies will stop then I can concentrate what I have to do next.<br />Its the biggest mistake a person has even done to me by bringing my family in this mess.

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Yeah, once the dust settles, consumers will be able to make an informed choice in which service to get. Even though the consumer might be the loser at the end of it all.

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Yes, correct

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What did he say don't keep me in suspense<br />all posts by Satfreak edited?<br />Censored?<br /><br />I think its high time a chatroom was added to this forum. That would deal to a load of the b.s and censorship.

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Satfreak edited those posts himself <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 01. April 2005, 08:22 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

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this is really bad......and the outcome doesnt bright.............

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And Satfreak said he was a gentleman not after that.<br />It good to see someones real colours.

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Yes Fred after our PM to Satfreak I think now he will get the picture How determined I can be to get square with someone.

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And I do stoop low!!!

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I hope BKTV comes back to UBI since its not broadcasting anymore on TV Plus

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Very interesting!!!Now i wonder if BN will also have a rest on TV plus whilst this court case is in session.

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Tv+ can't survive with just PINK channel...<br />Sounds like they were struggling even before they lost BK TV...<br />I hope BK TV will realise how important is to have a good quality signal at all times...

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I went to BKTV website, and said their signal to Australia is broadcasting now through <br /><br />Satellite:Thaicom 3<br />Orbital position: 78.5 E<br />Frequency: 3520 MHz<br />Polarization: horizontal<br />Symbol rate: 28.066 Msym<br />FEC: 3/4<br /><br />I cant seem to find this on Lyngsat, does this signal exist? <br /><br />Im pretty sure a few weeks ago on their website it said they were on PAS8 broadcasting but now it says Thaicom

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on the BKTV site neva said anything about PAS8 TV PLUS<br /><br />that details for the thaicom 3 signal is from the TARBS Days hence its not there anymore

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So what is happening now people with TV plus are paying $60 for how many channels??

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i think now its at the bargain price of $65 for 2 channels <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

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Ah i must of got confused with BNTV with BK

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by -.Lazer.-:<br /><strong> i think now its at the bargain price of $65 for 2 channels <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And for that "LOW" price you get FREE sound latency plus blurry picture.<br />You can pay only $9.95 extra to get nice scrolling message (some people got used to it after a few months) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

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They must remove the encryption otherwise there will be a revolt, you can't expect to pay $60 for 2 channels, I was sent a Anon email today saying there about to lose the other, BN TV, if that true I wonder what Tv Plus will do then.

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well im hoping both of the channels return back to UBI in the near future <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by P Debono:<br /><strong> They must remove the encryption otherwise there will be a revolt, you can't expect to pay $60 for 2 channels, I was sent a Anon email today saying there about to lose the other, BN TV, if that true I wonder what Tv Plus will do then. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">could this be due to the court proceeding thats going to take place...or something else I wonder..why would they remove BK just like that...?

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