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His one for you I bought a Dreambox from Hotchips and I got abused by some fuckwit whilst I was leaving a well know satellite dealer in Melbourne, mind you thats after I spent $$ buying cable and splitters from this outlet. He quoted??? Pricks like you buying from a grey importer give me the shits. You should only buy from a authorised dealer. And when hotchips stops selling them we will sell them for a reasonable price. Piss Off, I asked what reasonable price, $900 + like others around Aust were selling them for and thats without GST. what do you think <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> Fred [ 06. October 2003, 06:01 PM: Message edited by: Fred ]

Fred I have no problem with Hotchips, they cut a good deal. If you can buy the same decoder for $750 GST inclusive why in the hell would you want to buy it for $900 Plus GST from a over gready dealer. Look at Kristal and Dalsat they were selling them and Dalsat still is selling them for $900 + GST + Del. Get away Steve

Hey to all,as far as i am concerned fuck the lot of them, you should not be blackmailed in buying them for a outrageous price $750 sounds reasonable. Pete

Here we go again!! Just because you buy a Dreambox from Hotchips your a prick, a grey marker buyer, your not doing the right thing. What a lot of crap, you go where the correct prices are and as above why in the fucking hell would you want to buy a Dreambox for $900 + GST + delivery. Well I have news for you all, you can buy a Dreambox 7000s not for $900 + Johnie's Tax + Delivery, no you don't have to buy it from one of those so called authorised dealers that have dropped there prices for around $800 + GST and we all know where you can buy them for $750 GST Inclusive + Delivery so thats $775 to you door, BUT NOW YOU CAN BUY THEM FOR $670 GST inclusive and Free freight to you front door Where Go for it !!!!! http://www.austech.info/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57929 Phil <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

Official Dream Dealers-Please read the policy if you get yours from HOTDIKS. BTW, why would you save yourself 100 bucks when you only get 3 months warranty. Admin, aren't you the one always saying how fucked the world is??? Well mate, when your dreambox fucks itself after 3 months, don't go crying. You have been warned. 3 months btw is illegal by statute law. So I suppose you'll just have to take Hotdiks to court. It will be great when your dreambox is not working. Which will happen, remember these things are PC's not STB'S. They crash, and crash big time. http://www.ricksgadgets.com/dreamdealers.html See who the official dealers are for topfield. http://www.topfield-australia.com.au/news.asp?newsID=2 Wankers! trying to save a buck. Your saving yourself 50 bucks now, but your buying 1000 dollars worth of headaches for later. Get a life!

and fred, you are a fuckwit. Why didn't you just get your shitty 2 dollar splitters and cable from Hotdiks???? Don't whinge when he called you a prick! You are.

QUOTE FROM THE DREAM DEALER LIST Currently the most frequently asked question we receive is: "Is my Dreambox purchase from Hotchip Technology in Sydney covered by Dreams Australian warranty agent, or even Dream Multimedia Southern Hemisphere ?" The answer is "NO"! If you bought your dreambox from Hotchip, you have bought a grey import Dreambox and the overseas dealer who supplied hotchip has committed an unethical breach of contract with Dream Multimedia by selling outside his contracted area and has therefore been penalized by Dream Multimedia.

Now, i wonder why Hotdiks won't be selling anymore after they run out???????????????????? Cause they can't get any. SO buy the last of the greys, cause when you want a new one to replace the broken unfixable one you bought from HOTDIKS, you'll be buying at the right price. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Thats quite a rant rfwhistle , but unfortunately thats all it is.It's a pity you find it necessary to lauch in to personal abuse on people like Fred. If you want to rave on about laws , Dream Multimedia are breaking lots of them.Forcing people to buy from their "network" and nowhere else is a breach of the Trade Practices Act , the word collusion even comes to mind. And have a look at the " dream dealers "...The Mod Shop in Perth.These guys are the biggest Pirates on the West Coast ( as you would know as you live there , as do I ). And WSM , the Dream approved wholesaler , was prosecuted 18 months ago for selling commercial quantities of Pirate pay tv cards.And still has charges pending.What law abiding people. I certainly have no intention of financing these grubs by buying products from them. It's also amusing that it was OK for people to import them up until 2 months ago , when Dream MM suddenly announced that WSM were the new Wholesaler and any box not purchased through them was a "grey import".Dream MM's friend "Mr Bandwidth" was taking "grey import" orders flat out on Austech about 6 months ago. As to your final rant...all these Dreamboxes ( Hotchip AND everyone elses ) are made in the EXACT same factory in China.They are all as "fixable" as each other. And you will be very disappointed to learn that Hotchip dont import them themselves. They purchase them in Bulk from Australia's biggest wholesale importer who also performs warranty on them ( which I thought you would have known , its common knowledge ) They arent going to run out. They are going to flood the market with them which is going to slash the greedy profit margins the dealers were expecting and make it far more affordable for everyday people to purchase a receiver at a REALISTIC price. The virtual "slop trough" for greedy dealers snouts is drying up at a fast rate.

Boring You took the words out of my mouth rfwhistleshothisload, I bought mine in the early days from Germany and it cost me around $760 Aus, now you can buy them for $670 in Aussie to your door via austech, you know you have to be a fuckwit to pay around $1000 for one. Why don't all the authorised dealers match hotchips/austech. Another thing these authorised dealers that are selling these boxes are telling there customers for info go to austech info, what a contradiction, I think the admin of austech must know that and scratching his head. Peter

boring, nice nick andrew? You are boring! Your rant is just a great as your website. You won't flood the market, you can't!!!! Your Mr bandwidth did a nice marketing ploy by starting on your website, where is he now? We'll you say they by them in bulk from Australia's biggest wholesaler??? I ask you and hotdiks customers to check for warranty cards then in all the boxes. Please look for Warranty cards that are genuine from DREAM MULTIMEDIA. You won't find them will you????????????????? Just cause he's australia's biggest importer does not mean he's not buying all his gear in singapore. (like the hotdicks topfield)Or you know that aswell. So where were you now?? Telling lies again. People have to buy from authorised dealers!!That's not illegal at all. Where in your trade practices act does it say you are allowed to offer only 3 months warranty. Please defend that. RANT RANT RANT- BTW, you do a good job of trying to side up people, poor old fred, he had his whinge and I did to. So leave him out of it. GO AWAY, you bore me. You don't own this site. 36,000 dollars could maybe buy it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> or should I ask Hotdicks for the money??????

JAREMT, You seem like a smart man-the authorised dealers offer you 1 YEAR WARRANTY------NOT 3 MONTHS. I'm pretty sure if you asked an authorised dealer for 3 months warrnty they'd drop the price for you quite happily. Condsidering it is illegal to sell electrical goods with less than 1 year warranty, I don't think they would. Next time, go to harvey norman and ask for a better discount cause joe blow offers 3 month warranty?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> Does this make sense or am I really confused as to why people don't understand. You want the real deal, you want the warranty? you pay. If you want goods from the back of the truck, you don't have to pay as much now, but later on you will end up paying the final price. I'm finished here.

Well all have a nice day and Night <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> I going to watch TV, searching what new on the Sat seen, Via my Dreambox. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> Ps have been told via a email that some of the Authorised dealers haven't sold a dreambox yet. Thanks for the people that gave this site and buying from hotchips the thumbs up via email and for the ones that abused me. GO FUCK YOURSELVES!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> Phil

Famous last words! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> I bet you say that in a short time to Hotdiks after they say the same thing to you about your warranty on your dreambox. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Or will admin eat humble pie?

RFWHISTLE You might have a point!! Is it legal to sell them with only three months warranty Or are they Retrofits in other words ones that have been returned and fixed. $670 is a very good competitive price. as long as there new. Peter <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

See my post with an extract from the department of fair trading As you can see, you as the consumer have the same amount of rights who ever you buy your NEW dreambox from. And I say again As you can see you as the consumer have the same amount of rights who ever you buy your NEW dreambox off. So do not let these so-called Authorised dealers scare you in to buying at an increased price. As they offer no better deal that any body else after the 12mths you will have to pay to have it fixed (if you are unlucky to have it break down). In addition, if and Authorised dealer wont fix it for a sum im am sure that a fellow Australian Business man or woman who will see an opportunity to start a business or expand his or hers business will be able to that’s the good thing about living in such a great country. Buy your dream box at the best price for you the consumer because we do live in a free country and in a free market (at the moment) And to the scare tactics that the so called Authorised dealers are using the ACCC has been informed so have fun dealing with them I think this topic is now DEAD people make up your own mind if you are using a computer you have the tools to make the right decision when it comes to buying your toys PS I have nothing to do with Hot chips and do not recommend for advice as I think that they very arrogant from my experiences when I purchased from them in person at there store . But they sell cheap gear so I can handle there arrogant attitude, the money is better in my pocket .

Jason, You say you have nothing to do with Hotchips yet you buy from them????? YES, You are right, as consumers the law is on your side, so WHY, OH WHY???Do hotchips ignore the law and only offer 3 months warranty??????? You must fancy a day in court to get your money back!

AS TO THE ACCC, Wouldn't you be better off dobbing in the people that only offer 3months warranty???????????????????? It's great to see, idiots like you will take the time to dob in a legitimate bussiness offering a legit warranty but your wallet holds you back from dobbing in the real thieves. May you get a stuffed Dreambox and it doesn't work and the ACCC won't help your sorry arse unless you begin a civil suit to get you lousy $670 back with. When all you've done is saved yourself 100 bucks anyway. TOOL! wake up.! The accc can do nothing about people promoting the fact you get a legitimate warranty!

well well well.... I'm sorry to open up old sores, but i do believe this rfwhistle is a little like CathyB in her early days..... Probably looked up all this on the web and did a little research, however does not have enough experience to be unbiased on the topic... It seems that when he comes to a dead end in the discussion, he, as to further his already ballooning ego, finds it necessary to derogitize other people who do not share his 'view' Now rfwhistle... I have a question for you. Why do you always act so immaturely to refer to Hotchips, whisch is simply a business that is similar to Virgin Blue as in the prices war, as 'Hotdicks'?

Have you all read this before I received a very interesting email today regarding ANY DEALER THAT HAS BEEN CAUGHT COMPROMISING PAY TV. Its very simple the ------ ------ are looking at the problem. Now not the grey market they don't give a shit!! Its ANY SATELLITE DEALER that gets caught selling Pirated Smart Cards I not SAYING MORE CANT WAIT TILL IT HAPPENS To me this is the way it should happen Being a Federal offence If you get caught selling Pirated cards or anything to do with stealing Pay TV. You should GET 10 years Jail You should get all your assets confiscated, forget putting it in you wifes and kids name. Wow I cant believe what I have read GOOD GOOD !! Any dealer caught, is NEVER to run a business again, nor none of his relations Do you think the Federal Police are worried about the Grey market and how cheap you can buy a box for. NO!! Bigger fish to fry <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> hint read earlier post from Fred Phil

RFWhistle You say Quote "It's great to see, idiots like you will take the time to dob in a legitimate business offering a legit warranty but your wallet holds you back from dobbing in the real thieves". The Real thieves!! Well what your point on the ones already caught selling cards??? weren't they authorised dealers too. What a joke. Fred

Fred, because hotdiks haven't been caught that makes them OK????? How do you think they got started mate? Mr Williamson, HOTDIKS, as the name with a chip refers to exactly as I already once pointed out- How HOT do you want the CHIP! The name smacks you in the face when it comes to piracy! I'm not here to talk about that, I'm here to tell the consumer don't cop 3 months warranty on something that should have 1 year! END OF POINT! Admin, the local boys will chase the 1 year warranty issue, I couldn't care about the rest of the problems that's associated with this game. Hypocrites---- at their best again, We all have subs and therefore it's legal to make copies blah, blah, blah, you might aswell join the liars and kids on oztek. I don't have a sub, I don't own a goldie, I couldn't give 2 shits about your foxtel!

Rfwhistle When I say I have nothing to do with hot chips it means that I have no business relationship unlike you must have with your So Called Authorized dealers because you are in so much love with them (when they wipe there arse do they ask you to move out of the way and disconnect your lips from there behind ). Alternatively, did you buy a DB at a great big price from your MATES so now you are pissed off at all the people buy cheaper now and have to justify the price you paid to yourself or misses I didn’t DOB any body in I just said that the ACCC and been informed I think other people here know what I am talking about oh and the ACA also it’s a rare site to see to government departments cooperate!!!!!!!! And to H-Chips Business I think in Australia you are Innocent before being found Guilty your has the law changed. And to the 3 mths Warranty just when to there site https://www.hotchip.com.au/OnlineStore/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=95 and it says that they are offering 1 year have I missed some thing ??? End of line

http://www.austech.info/forums/show...cb74&threadid=57929&pagenumber=1 open your eyes before your mouth

Lets have a vote! All I want is a "YES" or "NO" ANSWER. Question!! SHOULD ANY SATELLITE TV SHOP REGARDLESS IF THEY SELL DREAMBOXES OR NOT, SHOULD THEY REMAIN IN BUSINESS IF THEY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT IN THE SELLING OF WAFERS, OR ANY OTHER PIRATED CARDS WHAT SO EVER?. IN SIMPLE TERMS IT MEANS TURNING ON PAY TV FOR $$$$ REGARDLESS HOW YOU DO IT. THAT INCLUDES AUTHORISED AND UNAUTHORISED DREAMBOX DEALERS. My answer...NO! Phil

No,No,NO!!!!!!!!!!!! Fred

No,No send them to hell, Dob in any sellers, fuck em. Steve

No! Bastards they are my brother bought a setup and lasted only 3 weeks, the guy who he bought it from can't be found. Phil from Broken Hill Dreambox???? cant afford it

Hey Foxtel!!! why dont you use your brains, DOB in a seller and get 12 months Free subscribtion, you watch those cock suckers look over there shoulders than. You know i don't mind if you are smart enough to do it for your self and only yourself but the seller's are gready SCUMS and making hugh amounts of money. NO NO NO No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No Peter

To my old mate Phil the answer is a big No To RF-llittle, I believed we were talking about hot chips, as they were the people you were raving about not Austech I believe that they are two separate entities under the law or am I wrong. Because the link that you put up had taken me to the Austech site and if I had placed a order with Austech I would be buying from Austech as they were the ones that were advertising DBs with a 3 Mth warranty which I agree is not right and may get themselves in trouble . It does not matter who owns these companies they may be owned buy the one person who knows or cares because if you buy it from hot chips they give you 12Mths and you implied that hot chips gave only three mths and you are wrong PAL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> End of line

Whats wrong with you guys you're all a bunch of wankers, dreambox, dreambox, dreambox, more like a dream,,,,,,wet dream. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> As some of you know my daddy is a great Doctor and employs Battery Hens (more Doctors) and my brother is a lawyer and he tells me 3 Months warranty NO WAY, not unless they are seconds, or returns sold a a cheaper price. Hi phil!!!! give you some info on Public indemnity insurance next week. Cathy

JASON-You tripped over your line mate-Go tell all your accc bbb dddd xyz mates about your 3 month warranty, see then if you know what your talking about. cathy, good to see you have some nouse! Admin, I said before, I couldn't give 2, now I couldn't give 10 fuckn shits about your foxtel. Only the so called hobbyist with A foxtel SUB fuckn around with his own card gets upset when some seller makes a quid and he's not. WHO CARES ABOUT FOXTEL OR SELLERS! This was meant to be a HEADLINED BY ADMIN-Dreambox Competition, admin as you once remined me, THIS IS FTA FORUM. Your all HYPOCRITES. Admin especially-go and suck some OZtek or are you getting to old?

how is it my 3 mth warranty snapper head and did you not read the last post im with you on the 3 mth bit <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

Rfwhistle You seem to get personal,and you are disgusting, you cannot answer a simple question yes or no. And you personally attack poor old Phil. Well You must be careful what you say otherwise you might meet my brothers law firm. Do you get the hint. Don't think you can't be found. Not so happy Cathy

Rfwhistle Bye, Bye don't bother coming back, go find another forum,I wonder how it feels to never know when all the sellers doors are going to knock, and when you answer the door its a man in blue or depending what state you live he could be in grey. How can people live like that, never knowing when the door is going to knock and the sellers are getting carted away. The trouble about this country is the law is to soft, and its about time it changes. Phil

well said Phill And Cathy the way these sellers make there money is off some other persons Subscription and when one of ther card get found the unlucky person whos card was copied gets in trouble and they get away (sometimes)how do they live with them selfs they are human garbage

Well Cathy, I thought you had nouse, obviously that has gone. C'mon visit anyday, I love people who hide behind keyboards and would be too scared to open their mouth face to face. To the rest, I think I've made my point loud and clear. Mr Admin, you decided to go into something I'm not concerned or associated with, taking this thread completely off subject. MR ADMIN----YOUR QUOTE IS IN THIS LINK HERE--- YOU POOR FORGETFUL PERSON---"THIS IS A FTA FORUM" Good bye.

Bye dont come back see ya <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

Bye vic or mick or what ever you name is. [ 10. October 2003, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: Cathy B ]

Cathy Name who cares! had to take the dog to the Vet today as it had a tick, Its problem was "Ya--lic--it--ing to much. Don't ask its a private joke. Phil