Since my branding by QLD DOCS and learning of these claims they have of me has sent me on a endless road to nowhere.
The amount of information and places to try to seek help and or justice is a task in itself.
I recently was directed to a MP in QLD name of Jann Stuckey,Palm Beach,I phoned and chatted to Bev. Was ask to send My information. and 3 days later REJECTED and all resent back to me.

She is not the only MP that has rejected or they buck pass me to the next. What gets me, is that some of these MPs claim to offer these forms of help.

Should a list be made of all the attempts and rejections and name the names of places/people that are a waste of space.....

yes...keep a list....I believe they allow some edits in the paper to fish people out I got the same treatment and continue to each and every time I make attempts.......I thhink what is needed is some public demonstrations that are ongoing....only trouble is then we have the police to contend with...and half the brood in docs are cops or ex cops......none have qualifications in dealing with troubled families......I think it is long time past the point where each and every one ought to be named and shamed

Well, this includes local mp's to local Fed Mps. Townsville and Toowoomba.
DOCS complaints unit, QPS,
also the Qld ombudsman, the CMC, the Governor general, The Qld Prime minister, Dr brandon nelson and Home office Debus.
Then theres Life line and other so called men groups, Human rights. Salvo's St Vinnies, Mission Aust, the church conner,
I can write a Novel on the places and people and All the rejections.

All because from the very first moment of these Un-educated, Unprofessional Penis Smokers, telling me, I have sex with children and my own blood, That I SCREAM'd out Compensation.

I asked them What price value can you put on Not seeing the 1st of anything of your child/ren.
What price value can they put on the love that they murdered between two normal human beings?.

The price on all the suffering, the emotional and torment.

For me standing up for myself has giving me more Lies Added to my files.

this is dreadful.....it is rife within this country ....all this serial behaviour......time to sack all government from their positions....they certainly do not earn their ridiculous salaries.....even more frightening, non obviously have any form of conscience......
the masses are grouping.....stay strong

Sure, we could Sack those tosser and only get clones to replace them.
The Whole system needs a overhaul. from top to bottom.
More so, those that have no hearts when ripping away the life from you. They Need to Feel them pains.
and above all, A law, that will see the notifier/s charged if supplying false information.

overhaul and cleaning out....the whole gov needs it......but not before justice has been served on them.

I'm going to be the devils advocate here again...

I know this site is for people who have been wronged by Child Saftey and that it's about 'when they get it wrong' and let's face it they do!

But kickemout, while I understand your frustration and anger at Child Safety and the organisations and policital people who aren't helping you in your fight, I don't think that getting rid of Child Safety all together is the answer.

Yes they do wrong and this forum goes to show how wrong they can be, but they can also get it right and save the lives of children. I think the answer is getting the government to hear the cries of people who have been wrong and get them to change their practices and the way they deal with families and investigations. Child Safety needs a marjor overhaul.

Unfortunately they do do good as I cannot see every CSO being this way, but it is unfortunate today that a certain percentage of Child Safety CSO's are bent this way, giving the department a bad name, but this happens everywhere in life so just get used to it. One guy chucks a smokey in his car and all people automatically are branded as hoons, do I have to go on?

I will cast my vote and I don't have to tell you who it is as I live close to the place as the bitch that I dealt with in the CSA (Child Support Agency) now works for DOCS.

This is the problem mate, you are all alone on this forum, but don't worry, every dog has its day and this forum isn't going anywhere by the look of it. I got screwed by the CSA for years, paying maintenance for a child that wasn't even mine. There is no CSA forum so this DOCS one will definitely do.

justice for all....docs wrongs are deliberate and calculated I can assure you......
3oo grandparents went to a care centre demanding the woman go to child safety.....she did and they cut her funds....that is how cut throat they are.

Yes, I agree, If, they do the Job correctly, to 100%, then, thats a well done job.
But! when these tossers, decide to play God,then we have a Issue to open up to the public, from the said abuse.
I also agree that a minor few within that department, do the Job correctly. But! as we know,cancer can start at any time frame.

Funny how this child support works.
Being branded a pedo, means I dont have to pay a Iota to the X partners.. Go figure that one out.

kickemout said:

"justice for all....docs wrongs are deliberate and calculated I can assure you......
3oo grandparents went to a care centre demanding the woman go to child safety.....she did and they cut her funds....that is how cut throat they are"

How correct you are kickemout...cutthroat in all the DChS dealings to save their own rear end from the lies and don't be fooled into thinking otherwise peoples...

It's not about the kids anymore, it's saving their jobs, careers and unfortunately it becomes a game against the parents...I know this first hand but even then I thought I was going crazy, you only hear of this stuff in the movies...

as for the CSO's, they are outranked in their decisions by people above them, team leaders, then the manager, so what a CSO decides, if that is for a parent, is changed when that decision is being approved by the team leader and threats are given to the CSO to have that decision changed, that's why when you get your files, you'll see documents created before an event happened and updated at least 6 months to 2 years later which should be a no no...

Lovingmykids:

I had a Uni student that got a job in DOCS(TSV), aged about 24,Alexandra Clark, No kids, no iota to life, and a attitude that you could run over with a mach truck.
She rips my life apart and then made a affidavit of about 10 pages thick. No details of and molesting,.
That was with partner number 1.2004/2006

Then with partner number 2, 2006/2007. This time i get a Twot named Belinda reed(toowoomba) her affidavit is about 100 pages thick, and details that i never knew i had. was there.

so, I believe that the 1st one, CLARK, didnt do a good job in frking my life and the expert REED. made sure she covered all the grounds to tamper with my files.

Children are a commodity for these PENIS SMOKERS to maintain a job,.

Sorry if I offended you DocSniper, that wasn't my intention and your right, there's the case of CSO's being absolutely biatches themselves without being ranked out from people above them instead giving them a pat on the back and another $10,000 bonus every 3 months instead of 6!

So your right in that children, our children are a commodity for their higher raising pay salaries at our expense.!

Nah! no offense taken.

If it was Ever possible..I would Love to do to them as they did to me/us. I want to take from them in what they love so much, their children, their partners, I want them to see and feel the pains, I want to see them run around in a maze of lies.
This is my human thoughts.

As a soul that believes in Christ, Judgment day is the day I will glorify as I watch the enemy burn for eternity.
For I will Point the finger and have NO shame.

The problem is that there is a protocol for complaint. It's a ladder and you MUST step on each rung in the correct order.

If the order is not followed correctly, the next step on the rung will reject the complaint until the order is followed properly.

It's an easy way out if a parent is trying to be heard by the CMC but they've not contacted the Department Zonal Officer. Or whatever rung they stopped at.

It's absolutely stupid, but it's protocol and bureaucratic red tape.

Each complaint needs to be in written form with a copy of the letter written to the previous person... The higher a parent goes up the ladder - the more pointed and less emotional the letter must be. By the time the letter needs to go to the upper rungs, it must include where every other person has failed the parent (what was ignored etc) and have no emotion in it, yet show the caring of the parent towards their child.

Also, by the time it gets to the upper rung, the written complaint needs to be about how the parent has been ignored by the lower rungs of the ladder and only include a FEW of the original issues that started the need to to complain in writing.

It's almost a flow chart.

Complaint in writing to CSO showing issues.
Complaint in writing to Team Leader showing issues and where CSO ignored written complaint + copy of letter originally written to CSO.
Complaint to Office Manager showing issues and where CSO and Team Leader have ignored complaint + copy of letter to CSO + copy of letter to Team Leader.
Complaint in writing to Zonal Officer showing issues and where CSO, Team Leader and Office Manager have ignored complaint + plus copy of letter to CSO + copy of letter to Team Leader + copy of letter to Office Manager.

By the time the letter writing gets to an area like the CMC or higher it needs to be about who has ignored the parent and when and how.

Each letter needs to be given sufficient time for a response.

Then you get blamed for writing numerous letters and then instructed they will only deal with matters after a certain date ignoring the issues previously raised before hand which the CSO, Team Leader and Manager will all say was resolved 3 letters ago...lol

Just speaking from experience...

LOL

I hear you my friend!

Come on - I apparently have Bi-Polar Disorder because I wrote to so many different people trying to get help for my family.

But what I have said is true and it came to me from a worker at the CMC.

Trying not to be fobbed off is the problem a parent faces.

that ladder goes nowhere rainbow.....so far Ive run out of rungs......I just remind them all ....Im comin to get em.

Yes I know exactly what you mean... When you get to Z they refer you back to D or C.

The say thing is that there is a process.

Oh, DoCS will happily let a parent know they can appeal or they can complain (and might I add that not all CSOs tell parents this) but they won't let you know that there is a process that needs to be followed correctly and the risk of being fobbed off is always there and always constant.

The sad fact is that the higher rungs of the ladder assume that those at the bottom have done their job properly and that the child is definitely in need of protection or intervention is necessary.

The sad truth is that those on the bottom rungs rarely do their job properly.

well, lets chat about the CMC,Ombudsman.
All in that department are just a bunch of frkheads.
I sent them all my information, the polygraph test, My reply to the frking lies from DOCS. indicating that I can not be in two places at the same time...EG: to that. in all of 2002, I am in a max sec prison, DOCS Quotes.stated, that I molested 3 children, in some part of 2002.
I am still scratching my balls,trying to work out how, How?, did I escape to do that.
When I ask them, their only reply is, You are, You did, Game over.
I have a Son, aged 22. was living with me till 21.
DOCS quotes in saying I molested him,abused him. Yet, he has never been questioned. when I ask and beg my son to goto DOCS and or police to be interviewed, They(DOCS/COPS) refuse to see him.
Then Im told that they found porno of children on my computer when they came and raided my home.
Odd thing is, At that time i was in the gutter of life with my eldest son. and had NO computer. Yet on DOCS paperwork, I have these pic/videos on my computer. The list goes on and on. I now learn I have been molesting children since 1977.
DOCS tells me I am gay. Cos, they say I like to play with the males. WTF...my bum is still cherry tight, I have never been touched in my life and I dont/never will understand that pain.

So, The CMC is in the pocket of corruption, for they bucked past me, rejected me and refuse to listen to the facts of the truth.

ALL because I scream out compensation.
AS I quoted to DOCS in townsville. Bring a check book.

I think complaints have a special basket....the too hard one.....and the cover up one......I wonder if they toss a dice to see which one.....

I have to agree with you there... That and the fact that nobody wants to rock the boat except the parents.

"Let sleeping dogs lie" doesn't fly with me though.

My solicitor reckons I should write a book... One day I might.

when I tell people what they did to me, all i get...they cant do that, that's illegal......but they did and still do......thhis forum is certainly testimony of that one.

Oh definitely.

Just because they can't do something doesn't mean they won't try to do it... And if it fits their agenda they will certainly give it a go.

If it doesn't fit, they will manipulate it and tweak it here and there to make it fit.

Just recently they tried to get custody of my 12 year old son. Now, my son was diagnosed with ADHD in 2004. He has been under the care of a paediatrician ever since.

DoCS know that my son has a diagnosis - yet they have ignored this and contributed his behaviour to both abuse and neglect.

They acquired his hospital file in July of this year through a subpoena. Continuing to ignore all the information in there about my son's annual medical appointments for his ADHD, they plucked out a letter I had written to my son's paediatrician in late 2005 and used it in an affidavit in August this year as a glowing example of why they should be granted custody of my son.

It didn't matter that the letter was 3 years old. It didn't matter that the letter was used in the affidavit completely out of context.

Instead, they went from my son being an abused and neglected child to my son being a risk to my own personal safety and the safety of the other children in my home.

A complete about face... But they had ignored his diagnosis of ADHD - so they had to try and save face somehow because they could no longer deny it with the proof in front of them.

Whether my son has ADHD or not, he does have a diagnosis and that can't be ignored.

They never got their order... They stood up in court and formally revoked their application.

sounds like they also have a lot of defamation cases coming to them....on top of the abuse, deprivation of rights,perverting the course of justice, perjury, professional misconduct, child abuse, harrassment....my God the list for them is long isnt it?

Oh yes, but they justify it by claiming it's all in the best interest of the child and that they had "concerns".

If that doesn't fly they justify it by saying the Magistrate agreed by granting the order.

I have had so many CSOs I've lost count, but the previous CSO to the one I currently have got an earful from me early last year.

I don't pull my punches and I call a spade a spade and I said to this particular woman very frankly that when her time on Earth is over and she's standing at the Pearly Gates preparing to be judged, all the injustice she has committed against innocent families with be shown to her one family after the next.

I also told her that I had no idea how she could sleep at night.

Then I said to her that I had absolutely no problem sleeping at night at all.

Mind you, I was not referring to how the lies and dishonesty from DoCS was keeping me awake at night.

I was referring to my ability to sleep because I knew that I had done absolutely nothing to put my children in harm's way.

whats that adage....you can fool the people some of the time, but you wont fool them all the time......

Has anyone here hear of the Forde Inquiry?.
and the Redness scheme ?. it found that under the care of these cares(DOCS) back then was called Welfare. from the 60's to the 90, i believe, the forde inquiry found guilty of neglect and unprofessional care and duty,the department of child safety as we know it today.
These where the children that were placed in homes in QLD and I think NSW...
These children were tested on experimental drugs and placed on devices to be scanned. Some were abuse by the stuff,(manly female stuff)
Stuff member may of not liked you, Stuff memeber could of had a bad hair day.

I am one of these children that was abused by the system as young as 5 yrs old, they abused me then, they are abusing me now, and Now, They are abusing my children.

Then you have the stolen generation. after 200 yrs of the government of the day. Not only stealing the children, but murdering the father, the man of the family. even shot the mother if she didnt shut up.

Gee, I love history :P~

Experience the 1692 Salem witch hunting: 'Are you a witch? How long have you been in the snare of the devil? Confess!'

2008:
Experience the 2008 Australian witch hunting: 'Are you a Pedophile? How long have you been a sick puppy? Never mind your guilty!'.

Yes, I have a dose of sarcasm.

Point is. if the Forde Inquiry found them(DOCS) guilty then, What would a Inquiry find today?.
How much compensation will Rudd, if he's still in that chair. have to pay to all of the abused done by his, Yes! his department.
Im not buying, Its a state issue crap. At the end of the day, Rudd is the boss, ya cant buck past any further then that.

Queensland offices of DoCS have put up posters for anyone over the age of 18 who was in government care prior to December 1999 to come forth.

There is certain criteria that needs to be met (have to be over 18, have to have been in foster care prior to the date in Dec 1999 and a couple of other things)and they are offering from $7K up to $40K in "reconciliation".

Oh, another criteria is that the person has to show that they were abused while in care.

DocSniper if you fit this, then this may be an avenue for you to try. It could even mean that meeting with these people might give you an avenue to contact somebody who may just listen to you.

You have nothing to lose.

I have already done the redness scheme.
Mrs Nelson-Carr MP, Aitkenvale office.
Refuses to meet with me as she believes DOCS. Yet she sends me a letter of her sorrows to me and the abuse i received while in the states care.
Two faces. Two different laws, Two different class of human.
I am a nobody and a nothing, I serve no purpose. I am meaningless,. Yet, this government will abuse me.will steal from me,will just murder and walk away and sleep with no concerns to what they did to a normal human being.

Each time I am persecuted,each time they apply the lashes to my soul. I pray for their death.

Maybe you should send her the link to this forum and tell her your not alone.

docsniper ...that is their standard reply...to brush you off.....one MP actually witnessed the intimidation I was receiving.....and did nothing about it....but to tell them to back off......they are all the same .....and that is exactly why these atrocious incidences continue to happen.
It was found in the Jewish state of Israel that their treatment of "2nd class" citizens constituted terrorism....we ALL have the same rights......and really , in truth, there is no legal system for those less fortunate financially.....but then, isnt that too part of their plan.....?
not all of us are in this world to accumulate the mighty dollar, but we are all judged by the gov ...yet in many other areas of what is legal we are too deprived of what is owed....an example is the govs answer to adulterous relationships that form ....the victim loses everything to the adulterer and the victim put on a widow's pension..... so much for the sanctity of marriages in this country.

okies, I give that a shot. Ill invite her....
Ways, I noticed on the "whos online" and see 8 spiders...correct me if i am wrong, does that mean theres 8 pedos on here aswel?.

Oh! then how standard is this, after Nelson-Carrs rejection, I and the partner of the time went and saw and also email Peter Lindsay MP(federal).
In he's last email to me, he Quoted " leave townsville and dont have children"

My response. You Frkhead, what a pro founded statement from a Educated penis smoker..
Ya think i am well liked by anyone from government???.

hahahaha good to see you havent lost your sense of humor.....probably gov depts having a look.....

its not humor, its pure hate of sarcasm,wet,dry, I dont care, I will say it as I see it.

my sarcasm will cut you like a knife. this is the attitude bestowed upon me by DOCS, my defenses comes automatic and I voice this out.

LOL

Nah, that would be Googlebot and 7 other search engine spider bots following the links on this site to catalogue the pages for their search engines.

Buuga, dont i feel like a boob:P~~~
kk, I think webmaster better change that, due to as it means a Pedo, ya heard it b4, rock spider, spider, candy man, ect.....

ah Rainbowchaser you have explained another very valid point so clearly again.

Yes, I found it was no use complaining until after the case was over and docs out of my life as it would have just been seen (as loving my kids wrote here) as not working with the department! You would be screwed if you make a noise. No wonder you got labelled with 'bi-polar disorder', I am not surprised at all by this.

Oh yes, suffering from Bi-Polar Disorder, contradictory and in denial... That's me!

But that also describes just about every other parent dealing with DoCS as well - particularly being in denial.

Well I'm 'borderline perosonality disorder' apparently - Get that one which I was given a 'may be' diagnosis from their crap sought out Social Assessor but mind you a psychiatrist who observed me for over a week instead of an hour only could see mild recurrent depression inflamed by involvement of DChS due to removal of my child.

Just shows then I'm normal and human with a heart, a nice plump red one that beats and does it's job, their's is black and cold...

Hmm, if we show emotion when we're dealing with DoCS - we have an untreated mental health condition.

If we remain emotionless - we don't care about our children.

It's a catch 22... But I opted for letting fly and firing both barrels at DoCS when applicable.

I figured that it would be easier for me to have a report stating that I was normal than it would have been for me to constantly see in affidavits that I do not care for my children.

Needless to say, I saw my own choice of psychologist for the Psycho-Social assessment DoCS wanted and according to him I'm normal... DoCS didn't like that at all. They "didn't get what they paid for".

Class Action, Thru the district courts is the only way to get DOCS into a court room to be held accountable. But, no layman can do this own their own, them documents Must Be Done Correctly.
In a professional and educated manner before the courts will even consider registering your forms.

I started to do that and got lost in my emotions as they just automatically flow out.
Sometimes I can control, But most times, Like Rainbow stated: I opted for letter fly.

These pricks know they are wrong, They know someone in that department has added and tampered with my files.
In 3 yrs, I went from Pedo, to predictor to terrorist, to whatever they want to say about me.has travelled from townsille to toowoomba to Adelaide and each time it gains more. I am not running away from them, They run from me.

that is the way they handle it docsniper....they ought to be named and shamed......a cmc would only serve to bury another load of cases

CMC is also corrupted.if not that, then they have VERY cold dead hearts

Yep they are docsniper.....the 2004 cmc enquiry and others showed me that one....all in the same bed they are

Yeps, not only the CMC, but also the State ombudsman to the minister of justice to the minister of police and the minister that governs QLD.

All know. I have Yelled at all these scums, from the very lowest to the very highest.
I Yell and scream to the media, Also Cold and dead Hearts.

Thats a lot of people that I have contacted that knows something about it, About Me. About you, About Us.

This I send to them, as this is where I vent out to the World.

http://www.dotblu.com/user/NomadSniper

so have many others docsniper.....its a bit like banging your head against a brick wall isnt it

Ya, it does, and I am shocked that I have Not crossed any lines to kill those that have murdered my family.

One day!! Someone will lose the plot. and I will have NO sorrow what so ever. If a department worker was to die.

doc sniper that is exactly what they are waiting for to happen....thats why they put the ones that have been complained about out in the public view.....but the best weapon is that two edged sword they call the tongue.......

That's a bit harsh don't you think? I wouldn't wish anyone to die. Not all department workers are bad.

Harsh, Ha, Thats Not harsh, what would be harsh, Is me placing a mini chain gun up their butt, and just pull the trigger.

What do you think they did to me???. would that be classed as Harsh?.
What did they, was nothing closer to pure murder. Not once, but three times, three frking times they came into my life and just murdered.

Hell yes. I want them to suffer, I want them to feel the pains of a child dieing in their arms, I want them to feel what it is like to have their partner ripped away from them. I want to feel what it is like to be made SOOOOOOOOOO alone.

Yes what you have been through I'm sure has been 'harsh'. I couldn't imagine what it would be like. But wanting someone to die because of something they have done is over the top. Don't you think that Departmental workers read this site and there may be a chance that they know who you are. And here you are saying that you want them all to die...what do you think that's going to do for your case?

So you want them all to die or just the ones involved in your case? Because if they all die I'm sure that someone would make some money out of it with the coffins that would be needed.

Actually I'm surprised it actually has not happened already.
Nobody wishes anybody to die but if it happens when you're there and its someone you don't like well what can I say.
Two years ago I was one of the many witnesses that witnessed a police car chuck a u turn to catch a speeding motorist only to be wiped out by a car driving up the inside.
what did I do? nothing, actually I did i walked into a shop bought a meat pie and a can of coke and watched proceedings.
Now this was two years ago and if it happened today i would do the same, I don't help anyone anymore period especially anyone under the age of 18.
The only people I respect are Ambulance Paramedics and Nurses and I have a very strong reason for this.

1: and lets talk facts: if a person, just walked into your home, pull a gun out and shot your partner and walked out. What do you do?.
Responses: 1: would want to kill.
2: Police are involved: they catch the person, is questioned and arrested,is found guilty in a court of law, and is sentenced to death. What is the proper human reaction?.

Yes. DOCS may well read what I write. and any human,whether poor or rich, whether any religion, will always want Justice when another human Murders your family. it does not have to be a gun, It was as DOCS did to me, walked in killed and walked out. Of cos! I want Justice for that action. and of cos!, I have the feelings I have,Normal human feelings.

And I agree with this, Yes! there could be a DOCS worker that is doing their Job right. Just like a policeman compared to a Cop/pig. ect.

What and how I speak is the feelings that have been burnt in me,is my automatic defense, to the abuse.
let me give you all a EG:
in 2004, I had my head placed into a cement pillar and then had a steel tubing placed across my back, breaking 3 of my rib, with each hit I was getting,he was calling me a Kid Frker, with each hit, my only response was, NO, I am NOT.
these 3 men that did that, basically got off scott free. and I received Nothing.but Pain.
only this yr,while walking on the street, I was approached by a man and he threatened to kill me if i was to walk down his street again.he had his hand in a gun motion pointing at my head. I reported this and the cops do nothing.

SO, you all Tell me, What Is the Normal Human Reaction??.

LOL

When I first lost my girls in 2006 I had a dream that I actually KILLED the infant of the CSO who took my girls from me.

It was shocking. I killed the child and felt absolutely NO remorse.

But this does not mean that I am going to hunt the guy down and kill his child.

Being happy to see someone dead is not the same as actually going out and doing the deed. A parent can't fight for their child from behind a prison door and that behaviour guarantees the child is removed until they reach their majority.

I don't think any parent dealing with DoCS would feel remorse if a CSO ended up in a coffin... I expect the attitude would be more like "Well, that's one down...".

How many Parents, Father have said....If anyone ever harms my woman or children I will kill.? How many have said that?. hummmm?. how many Men have stated they will do whatever it takes. Like the Movie, John Q.

And when that day comes....we are persecuted for protection the family, Our children. and defending what is ours. Its called Human Behavior. Normal human behavior.

Well said, agree with you totally there, We want them to suffer the way they have made us suffer.

Then does that make you no better than they are? Then does that not make you what they are trying to portray you to be?

Yes, that is exactly right and I reckon that's what my dream was saying.

Child for a child.

Except I lost 3 but only "killed" one.

We most definitely want them to suffer - but at the end of the day the average parent involved with DoCS is not going to do something that completely ruins their chances of getting their child back.

Regardless of how tempting it may be.

Heck, I imagined slashing tyres, dumping paint on cars, following CSOs home and lots of other fun activities.

But I never made a move.

A parent is only no better and exactly what DoCS portray them to be when they go through with their thoughts.

Yes and no. It can be potraying ones self as Child Safety sees them if they make threats to CSO's, voice their anger/hate/thoughts of killing/hurting CSO's and possibly even voicing it on the internet. It's all about how the person who is on the other end of these comments feels. If they feel intimidated then it could be construed as making threats etc.

Never has a truer word been spoken.

EVERYTHING is all about how the other person FEELS.

Personal opinion is not meant to play a part in cases - but it most certainly does!!!

If a parent ticks off their CSO enough, they will suddenly find themselves having contact visits cut or removed all together and if the CSO absolutely detests them, they will find a way to gain custody of the child until he/she reaches their majority.

Hi,
Justice4All don't wind sniper up.
I understand where you are coming from, but please realise this man is going through a grief process. And part of that is anger, venting his frustration.

As humans we have 2 primary drives - sexual and aggression. It is only normal that in a forum like this one that it should be deemed as safe to vent your fantasies about getting back at docs and that these parents can do so safely wihtout the reprisal of docs spying on what he reads and even possibly affecting his treatment from them due to this.
NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Anyway maybe docs shouldn't worry about the ones on here that are loud mouthed and venting aggressive fantasies towards them. As the saying goes - you should be worried about the ones that are quiet.
Quiet, watching and waiting for the right moment.

And anyway it is about the unjust behaviours from these docs workers and not necessarily aimed at one person. AND these unjust docs workers are supposed to be in a position of trust from the community not to rip the carpet from underneath the family through confabulating lies.
Docs that aren't following the mission statement, that aren't following the duty of care and are using their power to corrupt.

Fantasies of revenge are normal.

I would rather put my energy into doing whatever I can to facilitate the beginning of change and to educate the community.

Definately not trying to wind anyone up. If anything I'm trying to get people to realise that just because you put it in here doesn't mean it might not then become an issue in your fight against Child Safety. I would hate for anyone to have more issues thrown up at them.

And yes Sniper and others here are going through some form of grief.

But I will always put the other side of the argument forth...unless of course there is an issue with it.

Rainbow:
yeps. 100% true.
I have asked myself, Who in that department have I ticked off, for them to tamper with my files and add events in places I know and can prove I was no where near or in.
Who, then has been covering all that up and how far has it traveled ?.
Personal opinions added to enhance the Pedo Status.
From T'ville to Toowoomba, to SA,
That is a lot of people who has lied and deceived, that is a lot of workers that will be investigated.
That is Corruption at it best, In QLD Townsville all the way to Head office in Brisbane.

JusticeForAll:

Words has brought down kingdoms, and words can destroyed life.
Words is all DOCS have and use against me, With only words this department can have a judge sign a piece of paper, for them to come,with words and remove you from your home and family.
Yes! I vent, I yell, And I scream as hard as I can, I say words that I know will hurt, That will make anybody think.
Yes, I dream of 1 million ways I would love to hurt them.
To watch their faces as I do to them as They have done to me, to watch life drain out of them, as my life has been sucked dry.
And Yes, I know, if i was to break the law really as killing/murdering, I know where I will end up. As much as I like the idea of a prison, I am not going there for nothing and as far as I am concern, them DOGS are a nothing, they are beneath me.
No matter what I write, or what I say, it is the attitude forced upon me by the department of child safety and NO jury. will ever,ever hold that against me. Normal human reaction...not a depression reaction.

Hey Give DocSniper credit, you havent seen what they have done, he has every right to be angry and says what he says. He vents out on here as he is hurt and angry from what the department has done to him for many years. I am at the brunt of it all, and yes its not a pretty sight. But all in all this man does have a good heart, its just hidden behind the sadness, anger and frustration.

Threats, arrests, terrorism, you name it they have tried everything. No person should be put through that sort of injustice. At the end of the day, when they are held accountable, He / We will walk with our heads high.

WJ: its not the forums troopers fault. They have never meet me, nor read the documents as you have, They have not been beside me when I am rejected and refused any form of help as you have.

They have not seen what I do 24/7 as you have.

If only DOCS had the same attitude of listening and investigating, None of this will be happening.

If anybody is going to play God, Then Play as God would do, Fair and Just, With love and compassion.
Protect the children at any cost. even if that means I have to Die.

I think the point of my post was missed...I didn't say that people couldn't be angry, I didn't say that people couldn't vent. The point was not to vindicate anyone or to make them feel that they had no right to feel any way or that they were not normal by feeling these things.

My post has two purposes: Firstly to have people think about whether their anger was jusitifed (and it obviously is) and if they were directing it in the correct way. And secondly to think about the repercussions of posting these toughts/anger etc on such a public media when we all know that Child Safety is watching.

As I stated before, I would hate for any of our members to make further problems for themselves with Child Safety. We all know what they are capable of, with creating lies and trumping up cases against us. All they need is ammunition, and it can sometimes be that the smaller it is the better for them.

Sniper I apologise if my post upset you in anyway, and if it upset anyone else for that matter.

I am not against any of you, I am WITH you.

like I say justice.....you are a spark of light in a very black hole, and I admire you.....there is nothing more damaging to the human spirit than not being heard, and dealing with a one way supposed democratic system which serves to ruin people's lives....both children and families.
history dictates that the human being can endure only so much.....everybody has a snapping point, much to the glee of any governing body.
one could very easily look upon the history of any governing body throughout the world to know they are all the same.....and how many years have the Aboriginal people been enduring their crap.....in other places they have wiped out races....and british rulers are very responsible for that.
Now that society has been educated and given supposed rights...those that stand up for what they believe is wrong are castigated in the most heinous way...and that continues right up the line of rulers.
wE live in a society of apathetic people who have no interest in their fellow man......that is the saddest thing.....

Hi,

thanks Justice4All for the words you write. I took your comment back a few pages in the wrong light.

Justice: all good.

I am at the point where I am beginning to see this forum going nowhere, Sure, we Shout out and we write up our stories, But, its not landing on or in the right ear/heart for any action to take place.

The buck passing and pre judging is all i am obtaining.
I am sick of losing my woman and I am sick of losing the love from that woman. and Im way piss'd off for losing my children.
I sit here in my 4 wall self made prison, Im not looking for pity. Im looking, and hoping to find my life that was robbed.
Im not getting any younger, and to rebuild a family will be twice as hard.

One woman, and a family is all I desire.

Hi,
I think this forum is creating the beginnings of change.

Initially we were out there thinking it was just us alone.
Well, now we know we are not alone.
We are gathering together.
things take time - this sort of stuff cannot be done impulsively. It takes planning, action, assessing the results etc.

Also we can recognise we have the same goal.
It's growing nicely at present.
I've only been on here since around late September, that is not even 2 months and the changes in interest in this site is exploding.

And public meetings take a lot of organisation, the invites sent out to all those stake holders who deal with docs, the invites to reach the general public,and the invites to the various government officials.Of course a huge mail out before to invite all these parties and also invite law firms, solicitors. Media notified and invited. organising the agenda for such a meeting, the guest speakers, the ushers at the door, the tea and coffee and refreshments, the money to pay for this. The literature and photocopying for people to take with them. The making and video taping of this event. and not to mention the need for security. It's a doable but big task. A lot of people would be involved to pull something like this off. You wouldn't want to do something in a sloppy half measure. And we don't need to look like a bunch of crap pots that scare people before they ever think of arriving.What sort of image do we want to present - it needs to look professional. But this sort of thing will happen one day in the future.

And prior to a public meeting there needs to be the formalisation of a group. A name and registering this organisation/ lobby group what ever it is.

It is all big task stuff - looking for justice reform and justice managed.

There is so much to do before ever getting to the stage of finding a venue to host a public meeting.