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I sit down to watch the 5 o'clock news on channel 10, where it took 2 dozen police untold amount of man hours, a ridiculous amount of taxpayers money, even one of the best barristers in Brisbane on behalf of the Crown to tell them, the police, that they have INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO CHARGE THE THREE BRONCOS FOOTBALL PLAYERS WITH ANYTHING. Mind you, it took all this time to find these three great players of ours who play for the Broncos to not have a case to answer due to insufficient evidence. Now the reason why I say one law for the young and another for the older is, if the exact happened but with a girl under the age of 16, a 93a would have been automatically generated and because these fuckwit lawmakers of ours treat this 93a like god, I can guarantee you with my life that the above three would have been charged with a string of offences. This 93a is a work of art. Like I have said before, to have a 93a slapped on you, you do not need any evidence, all you need is exactly what happened above to the three football players, but this time because the girl is under 16, it automatically becomes a 93a, which means charges are immediately put on the accused. Aren't you lucky guys that the girl wasn't under 16? Remember too that the girl could have been 18 in looks, but only 16 in age and you would have been slapped with a 93a. Now, what bothers me is, someone is lying. Is it the football players? or the girl who put the accusation in? because I would like a new law and I would call it, I hate GOV DEPT 93abcd. If a person puts a complaint in and there is no evidence whatsoever found, the person putting the complaint is to be charged with this new code of mine called a 93abcd. Our law is one way traffic today, it is too easy for someone to put accusations in and the accuser can back out so easy when he or she does not get what he or she wants.

So tell me Broncos management, why did you fine your players when there was insufficient evidence to charge them? You are no better than the rest of the scum, playing judge, jury and executioner.
Well that is so true isn't it, I was charged with this 93a and like you said not a shread of evidence.

I watched the 6 o'clock news on 9 and the three players Boyd,Hunt and Thiaday were nearly in tears,
tears for what?

If 100 cops couldn't find anything no evidence what are they apologizing for? talk about a smoke screen forced onto them by the Bronco's as if this was me I would have told the club were to stick it.
big men but wimps for not saying what they wanted to
I didnt get a 93a, I got a 10a. 10a over rides 93a.
93a is from the victim. 10a is a made up events from DOCS.

And yes,HATE: that law would be so great.
those that dog,just to be a prick, when it shows that they made it all up and doesnt hold water, then place charges and or jail for no less then 2 yrs in a max sec prison..

Maybe DOGS would think twice before opening their big Cracks
Are you saying a 10a over rides a 93a eeeek!
10a from DOCS, you never be able to trust what crap they would write in if this is the case.
yes, I am saying 10A over rides 93A.
with only 10A, they dont need a witness,or proof.
Just written words that only that departments has of you. 10a.
Originally Posted by DocSniper
yes, I am saying 10A over rides 93A.
with only 10A, they dont need a witness,or proof.
Just written words that only that departments has of you. 10a.


They don't need proof with a 93a by the look at it as all they need is a kid to write a letter of complaint and READ THIS!!! the parents can write it and that's legal!!!!!!!! plus a child goes to a Police station and become a movie star by making a video of itself with the cop talking, and after that goes to a pre-recording where the child is asked a few question by my barrister which the Child gave complete different answers and the trial date still continues on.
WORK THAT OUT!
A 93a isn't a charge or criminal conviction. It's a criminal statement made by the child during an ICARE interview. A 93a is a specialised way of interviewing children and intellectually disabled persons.
very specialised...ive witnessed the antics justice.....it is intimidation and standing over them....promising anything but what they ask....
Yes it is very specialised and I too have witnessed more than one 93a in progress. Unfortunately it depends on the person conducting the interview as to how morally correct it will be.
Is there a special format stated to the parents about a 93a being used on their children? And is it done neutrally, not by a DoCS officer?
LovingmMyKids
A 93a is what the police call it. An ICARE interview is what DoCS call it.

Basically it's the same thing, same format, same style of questioning (open ended questions, allowing the child to answer for themselves, not pushing words into the childs mouth etc). The 93a is the formal criminal statement that the police use in to form a criminal proceeding. It's the formal evidence.

I'm not sure about the special format stated to the parents about their children being interviewed with a 93a. I know that the police do inform parents about the interview process etc but i'm not sure of their responsibilities in doing this.
and that 10a is what DOCS makes up about you. to add files and events that only they added.

with only the words they have, they can take that to a judge and BINGO, ya lost ya kids.
what id like to know is, how the hell this gov got such control over peoples lives......we are free people.....
I'm not sure what a 10a is. What state is it from and what area of law is it from?
qld...act 1992/99 I dont have the proper info in details. but from mem!!!!, Is a known abuser,,rah-rah!!!!
I think what you are talking about is the actual court order that DoCS have either applied for or have been granted by the magistrate. All their court orders are numbered as well. I have seen the 10a on one before but I can't remember which order it is in relation to.
I think there is a link to that document on the P4P site on Navigation page.
Originally Posted by JusticeForAll
A 93a isn't a charge or criminal conviction. It's a criminal statement made by the child during an ICARE interview. A 93a is a specialised way of interviewing children and intellectually disabled persons.


Yes I know that! and that's why I call it a bit of TOILET PAPER that starts it all For Christ sake a 16 year old child get his father to write the letter out.
The Police ask who wrote the letter? Kid say I DID! Both the parents write at least a 500 letter statement, I read both and under line at least 30 BIG IDENTICAL WORDS USED in both the statements, and guess what JUSTICE the child used 11 of the same words even the same spelling mistake on the three statements so who wrote the letter of complaints against me. the police are not stupid you know as they asked the Child 5 times WHO WROTE THIS LETTER!! (I have the transcript and seen the video)
the kid answered I DID

(PS NUMBERS HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO CREATE CONFUSION but everything else is the truth BUT THE TRIAL STILL GOES ON)

The cops know something in my case smells and this is the reason they warned me and never gave me a hard time whatsoever.
JUSTICE! You read what I wrote before about one of the cops and slut face DOCS CSO coming to my house AGAIN and interviewing my wife only for the cop telling the DOCS bitch to shut UP!! the cop walked away and shook her head because this dog of a DOCS CSO was intimidating my wife and the cop had enough and stuck it up her and she smiled at my crying wife.
I thank her for that but I still want to talk to her FACE to FACE one day.

You read what I said about the three Bronco football players didn't you, read it again because thats about it.

THE 93a first part of the written statement that starts it all has the be amended as its to easy to abuse, ASK ANY LAWYER you would think the cops would make a child say over the age of 12 write the statement over at the police station and not at home and the child was told to hand write it but was done on a computer and accepted, what a croc of shit!
Originally Posted by JusticeForAll
LovingmMyKids
allowing the child to answer for themselves, not pushing words into the childs mouth etc). .


RUBBISH!!

The COP Admitted it at my COMMITTAL THAT SOMEONE (NAME WITHHELD) whilst on the stand that the Witness was led EXACT FUCKING WORDS STILL RINGING IN MY HEAD! yet the Rubbish still goes on.

RUBBISH!!
I'm telling you all through hard experience here that not all is BLACK and WHITE. The complete system of interviewing Children has to be thrown out!
You can ask the highest profile Lawyers in QLD and they will tell you the same.
"Quote" Barristers love using these wank words , the case is weak! I will make it go away! and the best of all for the above is "The Pendulum has swung too much in favor of the child". Trust me I know what I'm talking about here.
Well I never said that you were wrong IHG. I was simply explaining that it's not a charge. I'm sorry but you have implied and stated that you were charged with a 93a (not in this post but in others). I simply wanted to clear up the confusion on that.


I have never said that people don't follow the rules all of the time. I was explaining how a 93a or ICARE interview SHOULD be conducted. I don't think that I have to explain every single time that people don't always follow the rules, because that's a pretty known thing isn't it? Hence the reason for this forum.

And if then the system of interviewing children should be thrown out, what would you propse in it's place? I think that the interviewing system has it's positives for children who have actually been abused.
Originally Posted by JusticeForAll
I was explaining how a 93a or ICARE interview SHOULD be conducted.




Its bad that a cop on the stand in a court of law has to stab another cop in the back plus stick it to DOCS all because she doesn't want to be caught with the hot candle in her hand but myself my solicitor and my barrister all looked at each other after my barrister asked a question EG 1234567890 and she replied very quietly that the witness was led, the barrister replied I DID NOT HEAR YOUUUUU!!!! She said it a little louder (not much louder) but the three of us heard what I was screaming about for one year.

Justice I have become an animal since this has happened to myself and my family, I didn't swear much before this but ever since this has happened I have just about re-invented the swearing language and I have a very low opinion of the human race.
Originally Posted by JusticeForAll


And if then the system of interviewing children should be thrown out, what would you propse in it's place? I think that the interviewing system has it's positives for children who have actually been abused.



What about the abuse guys abused by the system, What happens in court when I bring out some horrific evidence that the child lied, I mean Horrific HARD CONCRETE, TITANIUM,A Mile of it evidence, I hope the fucking media is in there to listen and view ??? ???? ??? ?? what i have. Fuck the mother should be arrested to what she done to her own child.
It all including DOCS has to go back to the drawing board.
One corrupt DOCS CSO + ONE CORRUPT COP you're finished.
They need to have a TOTALLY independent body with the Police and DOCS before a child is allowed to be interviewed. A PERSON LIKE ME THAT HATES DOCS AND SOME COPS TO KEEP THE BASTARDS HONEST!!!!!.
I have found the statistics (somewhere in my computer) of the percentages charged in situations like mine and it was around 87 or 89% are slapped with a 93a, you have got Buckley chance of not getting slapped with a 93a against you
The system is corrupt and it has to go. Don't listen to me if you don't want to but ring every prominent lawyer in Brisbane and mention DOCS and lying.

To me when I have to write the above it upsets me, I have a mile of evidence and I'm not allowed to show it before my trial Fuck! I wasn't even allowed to talk about at at my committal to prove i'm innocent.
I straighten the lawyers opinion of me once they read what i found about the ???????? + the ??? evidence against the child.

Again I have a mile off evidence against the child and against one of the parents.

NOT SAYING MORE.
I WISE TO GOD THAT ONE MORNING I HEAR THE NEWS THAT Nuclear war has STARTED, I can only die once and i'm not scared, my wife and kids can only die once but all I ask is to live long enough to watch the cruel human race suffer.
I will only say one more thing about this matter. Weeks ago we all saw on TV and read the papers how corrupt our Gold Coast police are by issuing illegal search warrants, now we all saw that didn't we? Did you see on Today Tonight that 60 year old gentleman that was illegally raided by the police by one of these dodgy search warrants? He protested his innocence to his family, friends, neighbours and god knows who else that he wasn't up to any illegal activities, eg looking at child porn on his computer. But did anyone believe him? No. Now I want you to replace this 60 year old gentleman with me and replace the corrupt cops with the Department of Child Safety and there is my story.
we hear you about the above message!
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