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Posted By: Bella2229 Reducing Contact - Sun 30 Nov 2008 06:05:PM
My DoCS case worker and case manager have told be that the managers above them want my contact with my son changed from every 2nd weekend to between 2 and 6 times a year to fit in with the DoCS guidelines for children in oohc (out of home care)!
I have been having my boy stay with me one night a fortnight for the last 2 years, can they really reduce my contact like that?
Posted By: DocSniper Re: Reducing Contact - Sun 30 Nov 2008 07:25:PM
Bella:
you have to remember this, there is one law for us and there is one law for them.
They can do anything they want, they can make your life shit, they can manipulate the cause of justice they even can demand that you have no man living under the same roof as you if you have children there.

Only other way as I can see, is a Lawyer that DOES their job and keep these dogs at bay.
and of cos, Money, you have heaps of that, you, YOU can move mountains.

They will try to do as much harm to you and your children, they will push it to the limits.
The Judge has the final say.

I am really concerned that One day, that someone will do a rampage on DOCS personals.(as if they dont deserve it).
But what then???. will that be the breaking point??. I know this feeling Many hundreds of thousands of times, I think/dream of ways for payback, I dont want to break any laws as DOCS does, But!!!! one day, a human soul will Snap and lose it all.
A death of a DOC worker/s will be the News of the century and maybe then this stinking Nazi government might smell the roses and realise you just cant keep abusing innocents.
Posted By: Bella2229 Re: Reducing Contact - Mon 01 Dec 2008 06:40:PM
It has become very obvious that DoCS seem to have no remorse for what they are doing to australian families.
I do understand that there are time when docs needs to become involved and these children who really need the intervention.Children are physically mentally and emotionally abused, not fed bathed or clothed, children who are subjeted to the effects of drug and alcohol abuse, children who are homeless, etc. But these are cases tht fall through the cracks in this system because DoCS are too busy ripping apart functional families and destroying people instead of offering help support and advice then moving on to help the children who are desperatly in need.

I feel a little better now i have had a scream.
Posted By: DocSniper Re: Reducing Contact - Mon 01 Dec 2008 07:07:PM
as one lawyer said to me.Its all about business.

So much for innocent until proven guilty.

and agree. Sometimes they get it right, with little effort.

95% of the time they get it wrong, and will be so hell bent in destroying stable life.

But, let me remind you. DOCS is just a tool, a tool that has powers way above the law.
the real puppet masters are the State government as the federal government always states.
Is Annie bloody bligh and her lesso frk buddie maggie. they are in power, they are the ones that CAN fix this. but(and Im going to be very sexist)they females who cant run a State, theres a election coming, good time to Voice out. Get these females out. They stuffed up from word go.

Posted By: thisisgood Re: Reducing Contact - Mon 01 Dec 2008 11:06:PM
Oh Bella,

I would want that statement put in writing on their The Department of Child Safety letter head. If you workers mean this please put it in writing. None of their policy stuff states this sort of crap is in their guide lines.

Anyway once I get that in writing (but bet they won't put it in writing) I would be photocopying this lots of times and posting it out to all to see.
Posted By: kickemout Re: Reducing Contact - Tue 02 Dec 2008 12:22:AM
well said Bella.....well said...brava
Posted By: Bella2229 Re: Reducing Contact - Thu 04 Dec 2008 06:05:PM
Well just to update all on the situation that started this thread.
Ispoke with DoCS today and they have decided to change my contact with my boy as of 02/09 from fortnightly contact to once a month, using their guidelines as the reason.
As I have previously mentioned DoCS have told me that their guidelines suggest that a child in long term placement should see their par4ents between 2 and 6 times a year so this means that what the dept has decided has nothing to do with falling into guidelines, or they are now going to tell me that my contact is over what the guidelines suggest so i should think myself lucky.

I dont know what it is that they want me to do I guess that DoCS and the current carers are just trying to push me so hard that i do something stupid. Well they can count that out!!

I'm not going to let them break me no matter how hard they try, my kids are of the greatest importance to me and if it wasn't for them then maybe i would have been pushed that far a long time ago however my kids need me to stay strong for them and to fight for them because no one else will and noone will even listen to what the children want as they are just children.

Even a child knows where they belong, and in this case my children belong with me.
I can't see the reasoning behind the decisions that DoCS makes in regards to children and who can look after them.
If in one state i am told that i can look after my daughter and in another state told that i cant have my son live with me it makes no sense unless of course each state has different guides as to who/what makes a fit parent!

Still cant find a lawyer cause the other parties involved with my son have already gotten advice from the experinced lawyers in my area which has now left me in a situation where i can either settle for an inexperinced lawyer or find a lawyer in a different area.
I am looking for one in an area quite a distance from me but hopefully that may be ok.



Posted By: DocSniper Re: Reducing Contact - Thu 04 Dec 2008 07:14:PM
Bella:
Yes, laws in family care and DOCS is different from state to state. Why that is so, is not very logical, But, does make sense when you think about the state government.
Lower house and Upper house, have different laws.
Then theres colonial laws, some are still in effect. Like freedom of speech...lol, no longer free.

But, as I read this, it is somewhat weird as WJ: No reason for the attacking. only they do it cos they can and push it to the limits.
Like WJ: even a 2nd handed lawyer, can still help. when in a court room.
and you show the proof you have to the Judge, not docs. As I did and that back stepped docs as they didnt know it was happening.
The Judge only reads what is put in front of them. if you have ZIT, then you lose.

And ya right, Dont give up. I did and now paying for it, I not going to give up on this SON.I am not going to walk away.
Fight girl, with everything you got....

Be safe.
Posted By: Bella2229 Re: Reducing Contact - Thu 04 Dec 2008 07:30:PM
Thanks DocSniper I will keep fighting and you should too, If we give up then DoCS win and who do the Children, our future have to fight for them?
Posted By: DocSniper Re: Reducing Contact - Thu 04 Dec 2008 08:01:PM
aye, I know the feeling of death of a son, I know the feeling of walking away as if dead. I know how to lose.

This time, No, this time, I have a better chance to be with my son. DOCS can do what they wish. I know how to take it.ya, sometimes, it knocks me down a tad, But deep, deep down, I will never ever give up.

Soon those that doubted and betrayed will know how weak they really are.
No, we fight for us, to fight for them.
They are being abused and molested by DOCS. My 20 minute new born was abused, and I try that night to fight back, kinda hard with 5 cops surrounding me.
Dont forget, Bella, we have a class action coming,a chance to be heard in the right manner, with justice. then we can do a civil action and lawyers will jump at you.
Posted By: Bella2229 Re: Reducing Contact - Sat 06 Dec 2008 03:25:PM
Well I am hoping that i will have a lawyer before then but if I dont I will take just about any lawyer who puts his/her hand up to represent me, lol!
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