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Posted By: Darth Vader Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 06:02:PM
Liski,<br /><br />Any idea when you guys are going to have the update available for the STB’s? There are still heaps of people that cannot use their STB’s to preview UBI content!<br /> <br /> <small>[ 13. December 2004, 10:06 AM: Message edited by: Vlad ]</small>
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 06:27:PM
Vlad,<br /><br />We can only help subscribers at the moment. If they have a problem with the IRD they need to join UBI to fix the problem.
Posted By: Darth Vader Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 06:31:PM
So, I guess they'll just have to stick to TV+ :S
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 06:43:PM
If the IRD won't work with UBI FTA what makes you think it will work FTA with TV Plus? I doubt TV Plus have access to a Mentor/MDS activation facility.
Posted By: Darth Vader Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 07:49:PM
Liski,<br /><br />Cause all STB3100's work in true FTA. Everyone with STB3100 can watch FTA on PAS8 and even all FTA's on B3 bar UBI's so called FTA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br />Ask around <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 08:02:AM
I'm confused. What is your question. If the STB3100 can view FTA then what problem are you talking about?
Posted By: Darth Vader Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 09:02:PM
The problem is that most people that are in the possession of a STB3100 cannot preview the, so called, UBI FTA content. They are forced to leave their dishes on PAS8. They are quite happy with the way things are at the moment, which in turn means UBI has potentially lost 1000’s of customers. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />
Posted By: Dan04 Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 09:05:PM
Like me
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 09:28:PM
What message do they get?
Posted By: Darth Vader Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 09:36:PM
This channel not Authorised.
Posted By: LAZER Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 09:46:PM
yes i only get about 4-5 channels that work the rest show as " This channel not Authorised "
Posted By: Darth Vader Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 10:04:PM
Reeeeeeee!<br />'bout time you showed up! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 10:08:PM
If they have PNA and are trying to watch the FTA channels they need to call UBI and UBI will rehit the IRD during the FTA viewing period.
Posted By: LAZER Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 10:30:PM
wats a PNA and were do i find this PNA??
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 10:37:PM
PNA is Program Not Authorized
Posted By: LAZER Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Mon 13 Dec 2004 11:06:PM
so if i call UBI they will hit my box to make it to work for the UBI FTA channels??
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 01:10:AM
Yes
Posted By: ShaRp Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 01:24:AM
i tried that months ago. after explaining the problem all she said was "sorry".<br /><br />liski you have sooooo much to read and learn. you should have done it ages ago.. much before putting yourself into UBI's position by calling yourself "we".<br /><br />BTW, if you didn't know this problem before, why did you think thousands of people had to buy a FTA receiver to watch UBI during last 5 months? just for fun? or you didn't know that either?<br /> <br /> <small>[ 13. December 2004, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: ShaRp ]</small>
Posted By: Jedi Knight Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 03:18:AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ShaRp:<br /><strong> i tried that months ago. after explaining the problem all she said was "sorry".<br /><br />liski you have too much to read and learn. you should have done it ages ago.. much before putting yourself into UBI's position by calling yourselg "we".<br /><br />BTW, if you didn't know this problem before, why did you think thousands of people had to buy a FTA receiver to watch UBI during last 5 months? just for fun? or you didn't know that either? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Months ago?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br />Were the Engineering staff working at UBI months ago?? Its been only the last few weeks that there employment level have caught up and they are still <br />under staffed. People cost $$$$
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 01:10:PM
Sharp,<br /><br />No need for comments about me having to read and learn. I've read this forum and I'm doing my best to help people out.
Posted By: vlad79 Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 05:37:PM
Liski! I don't know your position in UBI,<br />but if you can answer all question,you should to know<br />about a big mass with X-Tarbs decoders<br />You have to make very clear the answers about<br />Tarbs decoders<br />Regards
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 05:48:PM
vlad79,<br /><br />What questions would you like answered?
Posted By: vlad79 Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 06:59:PM
Liski! why the x-Tarbs decoders,which Tarbs sold<br />to the Customers,before they are gone-doesn't work
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 07:56:PM
If the IRD doesn't work they just need to be rehit.
Posted By: vlad79 Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 08:51:AM
Lisky! What the situation with Russian Cn?
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 10:09:PM
The Russian channels will not be on the UBI platform. They are for MyTVPlus
Posted By: Darth Vader Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 10:14:PM
Liski,<br />So <strong>Hit Me</strong>, man! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br />Then i can finally watch UBI content with this stupid STB3100! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 10:49:PM
Vlad,<br /><br />Call UBI
Posted By: vlad79 Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 10:58:PM
Liski!It is not correect.MyTV is on B3 on 14u TR<br />Do you think MY TV cane do some technical work<br />for only 3 or Later 6 Ch?<br />That will be last, before they all finish<br />Regards
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Tue 14 Dec 2004 11:17:PM
I will not comment on MyTVPlus. UBI will not have a RU package for any RU channels call MyTVPlus.
Posted By: Bedouin Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 12:03:AM
Liski i didnt think UBI had a signal up on PAS 8 though? i'm lost!
Posted By: vlad79 Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 12:09:AM
Liski! Thank you for that conversation<br />You only know one position *Rehit*<br />The 7-th of July 10 am Pas8 did it<br />We remember that!<br />And Thank's
Posted By: LAZER Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 12:14:AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Bedouin:<br /><strong> Liski i didnt think UBI had a signal up on PAS 8 though? i'm lost! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">they dnt??<br /><br />but the 3100 boxes work no problem on pas8 the 3110 are the ones which have the trouble on any sat there on
Posted By: Liski Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 01:12:AM
Vlad79,<br /><br />A rehit should fix the problem.<br /><br /><br />Ciao
Posted By: vlad79 Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 04:20:AM
Liski!Than's for that- and one more Q -<br />We got now in Australia 4 Pay tv companies<br />UBI, TV+, MyTV+, Horison and we close to X-mass<br />When one of them will start to make $$$<br />Regards
Posted By: Darth Vader Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 02:44:PM
Vlad79,<br />How should he know? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> No Australian PAY TV will EVER make money. The formula or should I say, the recipe they are using will never make ‘em cash positive. They cannot see the forest from the trees. In a bid to make sure the 1% of people do not watch their Pay TV free they invest a million dollars protecting it! The numbers will never add up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
Posted By: fsking Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 02:58:PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by vlad79:<br /><strong> Liski!Than's for that- and one more Q -<br />We got now in Australia 4 Pay tv companies<br />UBI, TV+, MyTV+, Horison and we close to X-mass<br />When one of them will start to make $$$<br />Regards </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">In my personal opinion, If UBI acts and managed properly, its the only one will make the bucks. They are allready making through Turkish community as there is no one else able to bring any Tukish channels to Australia. One more thing, UBI has a new way of running this business based on the maximum cost savings. Remember, how all installation/equipment costs saved/transferred to the customers by allowing all channels viewable FTA. There is a good chance for UBI to survive and make money if the previous mistakes not repeated again...
Posted By: Jedi Knight Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 03:17:PM
Yes plenty of TURKS have UBI, its a matter now to get the numbers up fast to get the cash flow in. <br />this is the reason why the free period was a short one.
Posted By: Darth Vader Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 03:18:PM
...as Bedouin said "Good luck to them all". I hope they all make it. I really do! The simple fact that there was only one player in the game before is the sole reason we, the subscribers payed such a high price. <br />A. Because they could charge any price they think people are willing to pay<br />B. Because without competition, businesses don’t have the need to be innovative in the way to run leaner, give a better product for much less!<br />So as you see it is essential that more and more of em survive. Even new ones to pop up as we go. New companies with revolutionary ideas on how to do it better, quicker, cheaper!
Posted By: Darth Vader Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 03:28:PM
Mind you… What I think people haven’t realised yet is that these providers are getting you to sign up to contracts where only the interests of the providers have been met!<br />Let’s take mobile phones, shall we?<br />To get us to actually sign up, the companies have to offer so many concessions!<br />A. Free phone, with camera, radio, bluetooth, bla bla..<br />B. Cheap rates<br />C. Free SMS<br />D. Free calls.<br />E. Happy hour free talk time…<br />Just to name a few.<br />So if we are so picky about signing a $20 per month contract, why are we so complacent when it comes to signing any contract with any provider???<br />Remind me, what are they offering me as insentive to get me to sign on the dotted line??? NOTHING!!!<br />In fact, they want a $$$ installation fee, a $$$ dish realigning fee and a contract for the next 100 years where they can switch, change and even delete channels, but you must still pay.<br />How ARROGANT!!! Get real guys!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />
Posted By: fsking Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 04:05:PM
Vlad, You are absolutally right! but living in the other side of the world does not seem to me suitable for great competitions like mobile phones. When the technology reaches to the level where most channels be transferred all over the world as FTA then prividers will have more options to play with as well as the customers.
Posted By: Darth Vader Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 04:13:PM
When, the technology advances, which is just around the corner now, and semi static content (Like repetitive sat TV content) becomes much cheaper, we won't (thank God) need providers. It'll be similar to the web and IP.<br />I'm literally counting how many more sleeps to that day <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br />Mind you, when that day comes, the days of providers will be numbered and they’ll be extinct, like dinosaurs! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
Posted By: fsking Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 05:24:PM
Vlad, I wish you best dreams for the future expectations, as what you dream of coming true<br />then, there will be more providers for special channels, and nothingelse will be as profitable as p.rn channels. Time will tell....
Posted By: Darth Vader Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 05:33:PM
fsking,<br />I think I missed your point here I'm afraid.<br /><br />...but as far as the porn channels are concerned, there are only so many wankers that would pay for that service. The Internet is filled with it, and plainly, from what I hear, (note: not from personal opinion <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> ) they suck... literally <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />
Posted By: Nick Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 05:44:PM
Absolutely, in the near future we are all going to need just one provider, an ISP with fast connections. All the services will be accessed directly, including mobile telephony, and no need for middle men like Foxtel, UBI, etc. Initially most video services will be free in order to encourage users, like Internet banking now. After that there will be different models competing, like ISP plans now, either pay monthly for unlimited viewing or pay per view or something more innovative, we shall see.
Posted By: fsking Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 05:49:PM
I agree with you for one point as those wankers only checks the disgusting material for free, but if you check around the world specially in Europe, you will be amazed how many people jump to those services not caring the cost. Even now in Australia, there are so many of them encrypted and sold with smartcard only if you have noticed. I'm not a fan of porn channels, but this is the fact that most prividers will be looking to make more profit. Think about Foxtel's nighmoves/adult channels, ppl do not care if it cost $10 extra for a month even when they have the rest.
Posted By: Darth Vader Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 05:57:PM
Europe? Not were I cum from <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> The whole Europe has those channels cracked! Even then they never watch 'em anyway. Yeah sure a teenager here or there to show off in front of his/her friends, but that's it. Europe, unlike Australia, is not glued to their TV sets. They prefer the real thing! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br />Foxtel porn? Who would watch that? They stick candles, flowers and drinking glasses in front of the "main" part of the camera. Geez, I've seen more real pornography on SBS <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
Posted By: fsking Re: Mentor STB (ex TARBS box) update? - Wed 15 Dec 2004 06:08:PM
I have no friggen comment for the foxtel's nightmoves, its as you said but it does not change the way how australians feels about it. I just made one point as if the channels has limited to show then the last resources will be the most popular staff. As you said, porn channels are sort of free to watch in Europe but only cracked ones and most of them has new encryption systems. The ones are on air as FTA, they are to get your last dollar from yoor pocket with live chat & so on shows...
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