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Posted By: apsattv More about al manar - Thu 17 Nov 2005 09:06:PM
International Media <br />Advertising on Terror TV <br /><br />By Mark Dubowitz, Roberta Bonazzi<br /> <br />The National Post <br />October 18, 2005 <br /><br />In one episode of the 29-part Ramadan TV special Al-Shatat, The Diaspora, a rabbi orders his young son to kidnap a Christian friend so that his throat can be slit and the blood drained into a bedpan to be used to make food for Passover. The rest of the series tells the usual anti-Semitic plot of alleged Jewish aspirations for world domination. This TV show is just one example of the programming run by Hezbollah's global satellite channel, al-Manar. The spread of this kind of hatred is despicable in any context. But when it is broadcast to millions of viewers by terrorists intent on destroying lives, it becomes a weapon of global jihad.<br /><br />Al-Manar routinely runs videos encouraging children to become suicide bombers, calls for terrorists to attack coalition soldiers in Iraq and promises that "martyrs" will be rewarded in the afterlife. <br /><br />Hezbollah established al-Manar in 1991 as an operational weapon to incite hatred and violence, and recruit children and adults as terrorists. According to al-Manar officials interviewed by Hezbollah expert Avi Jorisch for his book Beacon of Hatred, the station's programming is meant to "help people on the way to committing what you call in the West a suicide mission." Viewers are told: "The path to becoming a priest in Islam is through jihad," as Hezbollah's secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah said in a speech on March 23, 2002. Every day al-Manar reaches millions of Arabic speakers in the Middle East, Europe and North Africa.<br /><br />These are the only areas where the station is available today. When made aware of al-Manar's programming, seven satellite providers -- based in France, Spain, Holland, Hong Kong, Australia and Barbados -- decided that it was contrary to laws or basic decency, and ceased their broadcasts. These satellite providers recognized that far from being a freedom of expression issue, calls to murder can never be a legitimate part of the public debate.<br /><br />But two satellite companies continue to broadcast the station's programming: Arabsat, whose largest shareholder is the Saudi government, and Nilesat, which is majority-owned by the Egyptian government. The footprint of these two providers covers all of Europe, from Spain to southern Sweden and the Balkans. It extends to North Africa and the Middle East. As a result, Arabic speakers in Paris, London, Madrid and elsewhere continue to have access to a station that fosters a culture of terrorism 24 hours a day, seven days a week. The European Union must pressure the Saudi and Egyptian governments to stop broadcasting this hatred to impressionable young Muslims in Europe.<br /><br />That's the political part of the fight against al-Manar. But there is also a commercial side to it. While a large part of al-Manar's operating budget comes from Iran (which also funds Hezbollah), a significant portion is derived from ad revenue. There are a handful of multinational corporations that still advertise on al-Manar, indirectly endorsing its message of hatred and violence and directly supporting its operations by paying for air time.<br /><br />Within the past few months, al-Manar broadcasted ads for products from the following companies: Nissan; Korean electronics maker LG; Tefal, a subsidiary of France-based Groupe SEB that produces home cooking products; Swiss watch manufacturer Jovial; and Cellis-Alpha, a cellular SIM card provider owned by Fal Dete Telecommunications, a Saudi-German consortium majority-owned by Detecon, which in turn is a subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom.<br /><br />We contacted the companies about this issue. A spokesman for Tefal denied that its products were ever advertised on al-Manar. A spokesman for Nissan said the company was unaware that its ads were running on al-Manar; after investigating the matter, he said the spots were placed by a local dealer, and that the ads would stop at year's end. The head of the LG liaison office in Lebanon said the ads were placed by a local agent and only during the recent Lebanese elections because al-Manar attracted a particularly large number of viewers during that time. He said he would prefer not to advertise on al-Manar again, but added that he first had to discuss the issue with LG's regional headquarters in Dubai. A spokesman for Jovial wasn't able to comment and did not provide further details on the company's position. Fal-Dete-Telecommunications said they were not aware of the situation and that they are taking the matter seriously. They are currently making inquiries with their partners in Lebanon.<br /><br />While it is possible that these companies were not always aware that their ads were being placed on al-Manar, ignorance in this case is no excuse. Many of the world's largest corporations -- including Pepsi, Coca-Cola, Procter & Gamble and Western Union -- stopped buying time on al-Manar more than three years ago once they realized what their ad dollars were supporting. Those companies still advertising on al-Manar should follow the example of the many governments and private and public firms that have ended their relationship with al-Manar. They should immediately pull any remaining ads and institute a permanent ban on future advertising.<br /><br />Western lives and values are under attack by Islamic extremists. Responsible companies should have no relationship with terrorist organizations. To do otherwise is to send a worrying signal to their customers, a message that seems to say that their lives are worth less than the sale of a few extra cars, watches, cellphones and home cooking products. At the very least, that cannot be good for business.
Posted By: ShaRp Re: More about al manar - Thu 17 Nov 2005 10:47:PM
boringggggg...
Posted By: LAZER Re: More about al manar - Thu 17 Nov 2005 11:00:PM
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/default/blush.gif" /> <img src="http://www.clicksmilies.com/auswahl/smilie_bett.gif" alt=" - " />
Posted By: apsattv Re: More about al manar - Thu 17 Nov 2005 11:54:PM
Someone wanted to know a bit more about it in the other thread.<br /><br />Obviously this was before Tarbs added it on Telstar 10
Posted By: Jedi Knight Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 12:53:AM
Hey apsattv if it was not on a UBI transponder would you be concerned about it?.<br />If I was you I would be concerned about how easy it was for Israeli Mosad spies to enter New Zealand to gain a easy NZ passport to enter other countries using a NZ passport to commit Murder on its citizens.<br />Ask the French they know all about this. We have a habbit to blame the Arabs for everything and I can tell you the Jews are no saints.
Posted By: LAZER Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 01:02:AM
The 2 persons who wrote that story above are Jewish people
Posted By: Liski Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 01:08:AM
Keep your news stories for your site
Posted By: afrisat Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 01:27:AM
I don't understand why you're making a huge fuss about Al Manar, yet you've maintained absolute silence when it comes to NTV Hayat from Sarajevo. That TV station glorified mujahedeen in Bosnia, celebrated and praised butchers such as Celo, Caco and others who massacred thousands of innocent Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats, and continues to engage in hate speech against Republika Srpska. Why don't you post something about them?
Posted By: apsattv Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 01:29:AM
Liski keep your head buried in the sand<br /><br />"Al-Manar routinely runs videos encouraging children to become suicide bombers, calls for terrorists to attack coalition soldiers in Iraq and promises that "martyrs" will be rewarded in the afterlife. "<br /><br />Tarbs / Ubi can do a lot better than show this stuff.
Posted By: alcatron Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 01:34:AM
afrisat...the serbs are the ones who started the war in the first place so dont complain
Posted By: apsattv Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 01:35:AM
NTV Hayat hasn't been banned practically worldwide like Al Manar has.
Posted By: Jedi Knight Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 01:38:AM
We all know that apsattv but yourself and the rest on this forum can see straight through you and we all know you're only bringing this up because Al-manar is on a UBI transponder, I bet you wouldn't even bother if it was on another satellite. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
Posted By: apsattv Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 01:47:AM
It won't be on any other satellite because no other broadcaster will touch it. Other than Arabsat/Nilesat.<br /><br />Whats in it for UBI to broadcast this channel?<br /><br />I know you won't answer that one..
Posted By: afrisat Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 02:09:AM
Alcatron - you have a twisted mind. Even if the Bosnian Serbs did start the war (which they did NOT - the Muslims are the ones who launched the war by gunning down Nikola Gardovic in downtown Sarajevo on March 1, 1992), that would still not be an excuse for NTV Hayat to praise mujahedeen war criminals who killed innocent Bosnian Serb and Croat civilians. Shame on you.
Posted By: Jedi Knight Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 02:22:AM
Apsattv starting a political war <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
Posted By: alcatron Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 02:27:AM
I know that the bosnian serbs did not start it, but the "serbia the country" did, back in early 1990s they were getting ready for the invasion, they wanted all of bosnia, croatia, kosovo, & slovenia to themselves. But the serbs did not get their way and i hate having the republika srpska in bosnia and the country divided in two, it should all be as one!!!<br />This karadzic and mladic need to be caught as well they are causing problems to my country from progressing further in the EU!<br />And also you said the muslims killed innocent serb and croat civilians.....who did the serbs kill?? what about srebrenica remember that?? So please dont give me the crap "Shame on You" bullshit
Posted By: afrisat Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 02:53:AM
Alcatron - I'm glad your real views are coming out. Keep it up -- the more you try to choke the Bosnian Serbs, the more that they will seek to distance themselves from the claws of you and your mujahedeen friends. And I fully understand why the Bosnian Croats want to establish a third entity soon, so that they too can have independence from your "love" and "affection".
Posted By: Jedi Knight Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 02:53:AM
Sorry boys but please behave yourselves otherwise this thread will be locked
Posted By: LAZER Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 02:54:AM
Yes this topic will be closed soon if this continues
Posted By: Liski Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 02:57:AM
From what I know Al Manar is no longer on Telstar10
Posted By: LAZER Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 03:03:AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Liski:<br /><strong> From what I know Al Manar is no longer on Telstar10 </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That should make apsattv happy now
Posted By: apsattv Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 03:09:AM
Interesting<br /><br />Were they told to take it down? or was it their choice?
Posted By: Jedi Knight Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 03:10:AM
Yes Al-Manar sent me a pm via my crystal ball <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> and told me that sir apsattv complained <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> .
Posted By: YU4CFG Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 03:34:AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by alcatron:<br /><strong> afrisat...the serbs are the ones who started the war in the first place so dont complain </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Alcatron, be careful what are you saying. It may be your opinion but you're very wrong. For a war you need two sides (at least)<br />Bosnian muslims voted for separation from Yugoslavia, Serbs voted to stay within Yugoslav Federation...<br />Simply, Serbs wanted to stay in one country, Yugoslavia. There were almost no problems letting Slovenia go out of Yugoslav Federation because in Slovenia over 95% of population was Slovenians. But 1/3 of population in Croatia were serbian and even more serbian people in Bosnia...<br />You hate Republika Srpska and you would like to have only one entity in Bosnia? But I bet you liked splitting Yugoslavia into 6 independent "states". Now you asking to make little Yugoslavia in Bosnia so we can all live together in one state???<br />We had it since King Alexander proclaimed Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes and it didn't work out... I had a great life in good old Yugoslavia as well as majority of its people...<br />Today, Bosnia is independent country but its people are poor regardless of their religion... I go there almost every year and spending couple of months with my old friends both muslims and croats. Everybody wants to leave... There are only three types of people staying in Bosnia: <br />1. Elderly people (because they're too old and nobody wants them)<br />2. Thieves (because they are living like a kings)<br />and,<br />3. Poor people that have nobody to help them to escape their misery...<br /><br />One statistic;<br />Former Yugoslavia had one of the lowest suicide deaths in Europe.<br />Today, it's on the top of worlds list <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <br />And for a reminder;<br />First causalities were Serbs killed on wedding party by muslim extremists...
Posted By: apsattv Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 03:57:AM
Come on Phill.<br /><br />A U.S operated satellite broadcasting a terrorist funded channel into that part of the world!<br /><br />That's why I said in the other thread they were risking their entire service for the sake of one controversial channel.<br /><br />Hopefully that's simple enough for them to understand..
Posted By: Phil\\\\\\\'s Dreambox Talking Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 04:35:AM
The latest I've heard is they will be using their satellite in the near future so I wonder what will happen then, Send a missile up there to blow it up. They will be back you have to know that.
Posted By: rex68 Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 06:14:AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I don't understand why you're making a huge fuss about Al Manar, yet you've maintained absolute silence when it comes to NTV Hayat from Sarajevo. That TV station glorified mujahedeen in Bosnia, celebrated and praised butchers such as Celo, Caco and others who massacred thousands of innocent Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats, and continues to engage in hate speech against Republika Srpska. Why don't you post something about them?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">How old are you afrisat? <br />You must be kidding, trying to sell your bullshit propaganda on "satellite forums"-so there won't be response for "your over and over "so called truth" when we all know when why and how it happened.<br />Can't you see who is hiding war criminals who is supporting killing (there is little or no difference between you narrow minded people and AL-qaeda supporters. What about BN TV there is only stories We Serbs this ,we Serbs that as there is no one else in this world than"Serbs the sky people" is that the saying?<br />So YUG...nick name is telling as about one incident that started the "war". Was that the president or someone so important to start the war how many bombs before that how many self proclaimed "Serb autonomous regions "in Bosnia before anything started?<br />What happened in village Ravno before that or in Croatia in Vukovar or who started all that self rule taking down democratically elected rep. from Vojvodina and Kosovo and and..<br />STOP bullshitting US PLEASE and for reference go to the Hague International Tribunal for war criminals ans see who is there and why.<br />Please I'm not going to reply on this because this is nice info forum for satellite programing, but I'll not let you talk bullshit any more because it is time for you people to accept the truth that is there not presented by "Turks" as you like to call them but international community.<br />Stop hiding and trying to sell it here,if you cannot do it where you should try..You are so pathetic that when I read your stupid stories I have to vomit.<br />Sorry guys I'm going to enjoy reading good news that UBI is presenting to us.<br />I'm out of here
Posted By: alcatron Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 06:54:AM
rex68 i agree, and you see afrisat started all this he should have never mentioned ntv hayat in a al manar thread and none of this would have happened....
Posted By: jonc Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 07:48:AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> Whats in it for UBI to broadcast this channel?<br />I know you won't answer that one.. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I will though.<br /><br />Who cares, and why does it seem to be your mission in life to rub salt into the wound?<br /><br />Gee you can not not even see this C Band channel from your location, so how can you comment on the content?
Posted By: LAZER Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 12:41:PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by jonc:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> Whats in it for UBI to broadcast this channel?<br />I know you won't answer that one.. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I will though.<br /><br />Who cares, and why does it seem to be your mission in life to rub salt into the wound?<br /><br />Gee you can not not even see this C Band channel from your location, so how can you comment on the content? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If it's got to do with UBI/Tarbs apsattv will be there to try dig up some dirt on it and be negative in anyway he can
Posted By: Jedi Knight Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 03:02:PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by LAZERSAT:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by jonc:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> Whats in it for UBI to broadcast this channel?<br />I know you won't answer that one.. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I will though.<br /><br />Who cares, and why does it seem to be your mission in life to rub salt into the wound?<br /><br />Gee you can not not even see this C Band channel from your location, so how can you comment on the content? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If it's got to do with UBI/Tarbs apsattv will be there to try dig up some dirt on it and be negative in anyway he can </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think in apsattv early childhood he must have been mistreated by someone with a name like Taaarber or Ubieena or some like that and this is the reason why he cant stand the companies. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Or is it because he is the opposite than an Arab.
Posted By: ShaRp Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 05:34:PM
I can now understand that all apsattv's whinging about tarbs/ubi is because of the arab/jew conflict. He's a jew and ubi is a arab owned company. that's a good enough reason for him to hate ubi.<br /><br />It's disgusting to see these religous/racist posts on this thread. I really dont wanna see all those serbian craps. International Tribunal for war criminals will take care of that issue not us. I'm not interested to see them on a satellite forum.
Posted By: apsattv Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 07:40:PM
I'm a Jew??<br />uh no!
Posted By: ShaRp Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 07:45:PM
here goes my theory down the drain. my apologies then.
Posted By: YU4CFG Re: More about al manar - Sat 19 Nov 2005 08:12:AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ShaRp:<br /><strong> here goes my theory down the drain. my apologies then. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">"Serbian Crap" is another of your theories going down the drain <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br />BTW, Int. Tribunal is prosecuting bosnian muslim commanders for massacre of serbian and croatian civilians too... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" />
Posted By: Jedi Knight Re: More about al manar - Sat 19 Nov 2005 08:13:AM
You don't think he would admit it do you?? In my Hate pm's a month ago about banning appsatv do you know that around 30% said the above. And there were some good reasons why and one was that he never complained about the Jewish spies that entered his country (NZ)to obtain false passports but he is worried about Al-Manar on a Satellite that cant even reach NZ.
Posted By: ShaRp Re: More about al manar - Sat 19 Nov 2005 08:37:AM
I don't think so Phil. if he says he's not i believe that. why would someone hide his religion?<br /><br />TU4CFG, I didn't have a theory about serbs. so it can't go down the drain. u just keep your thoughts to urself. that'll do. I'm happy as long as nobody is murdering or raping each other over there.<br /><br />i don't wanna see religion/nationality related posts here. that's all I said/want.
Posted By: Mr DVD Re: More about al manar - Sat 19 Nov 2005 08:54:AM
Yes keep religion out of this forum but for Apsattv I will try to find that link that i spotted months ago. I think it was in googles and it spoke about apsattv something like the above if not worst.
Posted By: Mr DVD Re: More about al manar - Sat 19 Nov 2005 08:55:AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ShaRp:<br /><strong> I don't think so Phil. if he says he's not i believe that. why would someone hide his religion?<br /><br />TU4CFG, I didn't have a theory about serbs. so it can't go down the drain. u just keep your thoughts to urself. that'll do. I'm happy as long as nobody is murdering or raping each other over there.<br /><br />i don't wanna see religion/nationality related posts here. that's all I said/want. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">He will never admit it if he is otherwise it will blow his cover. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
Posted By: apsattv Re: More about al manar - Sat 19 Nov 2005 08:58:AM
What? next you will suggest i'm really Rupert Murdoch?<br /><br />if it makes any difference to you all I have no religion.
Posted By: ShaRp Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 09:29:PM
nah murdoch wouldn't have this much spare time to find jewish lobbyest's article about almanar and post here.
Posted By: reuder Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 11:19:PM
Pro-terror shows banned from TV<br /><br />SUBSCRIPTION television services could soon be banned from broadcasting programs in Australia that recruit and raise funds for terrorist organisations.<br /><br />The Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) is planning to change broadcasting standards to prevent the screening of programs that could be seen to be recruiting for, or soliciting funds on behalf of, banned groups.<br />The move follows the axing in 2003 of a subscription television service with suspected terrorist links.<br /><br />An investigation by the Australian Broadcasting Authority (ABA) last year found the Lebanese Hizbollah-run station Al-Manar was attempting to raise funds for terrorist organisations and promote the activities of those groups.<br /><br />TARBS World TV, the Sydney-based satellite television provider which showed Al-Manar, withdrew the broadcasts itself before the investigation began.<br /><br />TARBS World TV Australia has since gone into receivership.<br /><br />The ACMA is now proposing to change standards for narrowcast television services to prevent the same thing happening again.<br />The new regulations would put the onus on the television networks themselves to ensure such programs did not appear.<br /><br />Anything that formed part of a news report, comment in the public interest, or political opinion would not be banned, the ACMA said.<br /><br />It is calling for public comment on the proposed standards. <br /><br />SOURCE <br /><br /><br />I think Apsattv will be happy! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
Posted By: Muazb Re: More about al manar - Fri 18 Nov 2005 11:31:PM
Be careful guys, you don't want Appy calling ASIo and saying that UBI aids terrorists and funds them also...<br /><br />He's been going on about this since I was swimming in my fathers nutsacks (not literally).
Posted By: apsattv Re: More about al manar - Sat 19 Nov 2005 12:28:AM
"Be careful guys, you don't want Appy calling ASIo and saying that UBI aids terrorists and funds them also..."<br /><br />Wow I didn't know that!! <br /><br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" /> <br />(BEING SARCASTIC in case you can't work it out)<br /><br />I was stating the Al-Manar situation at the beginning of thread. The media item that Reuder has posted simply backs up what I'm saying.
Posted By: apsattv Re: More about al manar - Sat 19 Nov 2005 12:42:AM
One more news item that just came in.<br /><br />EU urged to monitor 'hate' TV<br /><br /><br />From http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3483092a12,00.html<br /><br />BRUSSELS: The EU should set up a watchdog to monitor Arabic-language television stations broadcasting in Europe to prevent the dissemination of hate messages, a Jewish-funded Brussels-based think-tank said. <br /><br />The Transatlantic Institute, funded by the American Jewish Committee, said Middle East-based satellite stations were broadcasting anti-Western programmes that dismiss women, threaten Jews and advocate violence to further radical Islam. <br /><br />"The continuing transmission of hate ideologies that threaten the very essence of the European social ideal is a matter of ongoing concern, as is the lack of enforcement mechanisms to prevent such messages from being propagated on European television screens," it said in a report. <br /><br />"The European Union should establish a specialised watchdog agency solely devoted to addressing these cases," it said, adding that the body should have powers to prevent such programmes from being aired in Europe. <br /><br />The Arab channels singled out in the report, al-Manar television, mouthpiece of Lebanon's Hizbollah guerrilla group, and Saudi-based Iqraa, denied broadcasting hate material. <br /><br />Arabic-language satellite stations have been under scrutiny in the EU since France banned al-Manar last year, saying its programmes were anti-Semitic and could threaten public order. <br /><br />A few days later, the United States listed al-Manar as a terrorist organisation, ending its US satellite transmissions. <br /><br />In March, EU broadcasting regulators took al-Manar off European satellites at a meeting to step up action against broadcasts which incite hatred or promote racism or xenophobia. <br /><br />Al-Manar, reacting to the institute's report, said Jewish groups were acting as if they are the "custodians of the media" and denied it carries any anti-Semitic message. <br /><br />"Of course, we put the practices of the Israeli occupation under the spotlight and reveal its barbaric practices against unarmed civilians, which is a humanitarian right," Ibrahim Farhat, al-Manar's public relations director, said. <br /><br />"We respect Judaism as a religion and we engage it in dialogue and we have no problem with it," he said. <br /><br />The institute said the number of satellite dishes receiving Arabic-language television in Europe was rising. Some channels had "incendiary content potentially disruptive to public order". <br /><br />It said European enforcement of broadcasting laws was lax and urged more dialogue with authorities in Middle Eastern countries where most such programmes are made. The al-Manar case should set a precedent for other networks "that transmit identical material," it said, naming Saudi-based Iqraa as one of many such broadcasters. <br /><br />Nabil Hamad, director of Iqraa Television, which broadcasts from the Jordanian capital Amman, said Islamist radicals had often attacked it "because we are moderate and we are against fanaticism, against the explosions, the suicide attacks". <br /><br />He said calls for justice should not be confused with anti-Semitism. "The only freedom is to attack Islam, or belittle Arabs, or attack Palestinians," he said, citing the output of several major Western-owned networks. <br /><br />Jihad Ballout, spokesman for Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television, said he was concerned that the institute's proposal targeted only Arab media, rather than being universal. <br /><br />"I hope that this endeavour is not being politicised," he said in Dubai. "At any rate freedom of expression and responsible journalism should be maintained. I'm very concerned at the level of politics that will be at play."
Posted By: Jedi Knight Re: More about al manar - Sat 19 Nov 2005 12:59:AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ShaRp:<br /><strong> nah murdoch wouldn't have this much spare time to find jewish lobbyest's article about almanar and post here. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If i'm correct Murdoch is Jewish <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />
Posted By: Jedi Knight Re: More about al manar - Sat 19 Nov 2005 01:30:AM
We will give this one a rest.
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