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UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes

Posted By: Liski

UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Thu 09 Aug 2007 10:02:PM

UBI are getting 4 channels from DigiTurk (Lig TV, PowerTurk, TurkMax and Show TV)

UBI have been in negoiations with DigiTurk regarding our contractual issues.

DigiTurk are requesting unreasonable fee for Lig TV which our subscribers would need to pay 4 times what they currently pay just to cover the Lig TV license costs, plus the costs to actually bring the channels from Turkey to Australia.

As a result of the failed negotiations because of DigiTurk's unreasonable and unfair expectations, several channel changes will be happening tonight:

- PowerTurk will no longer be avaliable in Australia - we have succesfully found an even better music channel replacement in Kral TV

- TurkMax will no longer be avaliable in Australia - we are in the advance stages of finialising a new contract with a premium Turkish movie channel to replace this

- Due to the breakdown in negotiations, DigiTurk have decided to unfairly switch off Show TV. UBI has an independent relationship with the Show TV Managing Director, who is challenging the actions of DigiTurk to resolve the situation immediatley. We hope Show TV will return within 72hrs

As a result we will stop charging customers for Lig TV and all custoemrs will be credited $9.95 if they have been billed/paid since 10/07/07

We will allow customers to terminate even if they are still in-contract term - they must send the request in writing.

Lig TV Q&A

Why is Lig TV no longer on UBI?
UBI has been negotiating for some time with DigiTurk for the rights to broadcast their channels in Australia. DigiTurk have demanded an unreasonable fee for these rights, which UBI does not want to pass onto its customers. As a result, on Thursday 9 August DigiTurk gave UBI 24 hours notice that to the signal of Lig TV, PowerTurk, TurkMax, and Show TV at midnight on Friday 10 August.

Why does UBI not pay DigiTurk what they want?
DigiTurk has asked for an unreasonable amount of money for the rights to their channels in Australia. They have shown they only care about money, and do not care about Turkish people in Australia who are passionate about soccer. The fact that they cut their signal with only 24 hours notice, given UBI no time to advise our customers and giving customers no chance to contact DigiTurk to explain their concerns, shows that DigiTurk do not care about Turkish people in Australia.

If UBI were to pay DigiTurk what they want, UBI would have to charge our customers at least 4 times the $9.95 we currently charge them to watch Lig TV. We believe our customers would not find this price fair, given the concerns they expressed when we asked them to pay only $9.95 for Lig TV. Furthermore, we do not think our customers should be paying an unreasonable price to watch the soccer they love.

What can the Turkish community in Australia do?
Firstly, they can express their frustration and disappointment directly to DigiTurk, and let them know that they believe they should be able to watch Lig TV for a fair price in Australia. Perhaps DigiTurk will listen to customers and decide they are willing to offer UBI a fair price for people in Australia to be able to watch Lig TV.

Secondly, if UBI finds that our customers are prepared to pay $40 for Lig TV instead of the $9.95 they currently pay, and that at least 3000 customers are willing to pay the $40, then we will gladly pay DigiTurk what they want and continue to bring Lig TV to our customers.

What about customers who just paid $9.95 for Lig TV?
UBI will credit all Lig TV customers the $9.95 they paid for Lig TV on their last bill. This credit will automatically apply to the customers next bill.

LINEUP CHANGES AS OF MIDNIGHT 10/08/07 ( CURRENT > NEW )
CH60 VIZYON > VIZYON (24HRS)
CH61 ATV > ATV
CH62 SHOW TV > ART CARD
CH63 EURO D > EURO D
CH64 EURO STAR > EURO STAR
CH65 NTV > NTV
CH66 LIG TV > PRESS CONFERENCE LOOP
CH67 POWERTURK > KRAL TV
CH68 TURKMAX > KANAL 7 (24 HRS)
CH69 STV > STV
CH70 TRT INT > TRT INT
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Thu 09 Aug 2007 10:14:PM

Thats very bad for Turkish Subsribers cant believe Digiturk would do this how greedy are these people to ask for $40 a month for LigTV cant believe this greedy buggers they are

Hopefully Show TV returns to UBI and be seperate from Digiturk group

Really bad news Digiturk should be ashamed of themselves...
Posted By: HoRnEyDvL

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Thu 09 Aug 2007 10:35:PM

Instead of been against UBI lets rally with them. Lets voice our frustration & disappointment To Digiturk.
LETS EMAIL THEM PHONE THEM LETS DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
Posted By: ShaRp

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Fri 10 Aug 2007 12:07:AM

CH69 STV > STB

what is STB ?
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Fri 10 Aug 2007 12:13:AM

Im pretty sure thats a typo seeing as V and B are close together on the keyboard so STV remains the same...
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Fri 10 Aug 2007 01:53:AM

Yep should be STV
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Fri 10 Aug 2007 11:12:AM

Kral TV looks alot better then Powerturk smile
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Fri 10 Aug 2007 09:59:PM

I've been waiting for Kral TV for awhile now and after watching it all day it sure does give a better mixture of music.
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 13 Aug 2007 11:46:PM

I would like to share the following email just received from Digiturk....and would also like to discuss the current status of the Lig-TV issue as I was told by few ppl that its sold in public for $160.00 per year through internet...Any feedback is much appreciated...Thanks...

Sayin Faruk Karsanbas,

DIGITURK?un, Avustralya?da yayinlarinin iletimi konusunda calismakta
oldugu UBI Pty Ltd. ile anlasmasi 1 Agustos 2007 tarihi itibariyle
sona ermistir.

Kontrat gorusmelerinin devam etmesi sebebiyle yayina devam edilmis,
ancak ticari sartlar konusunda, bugune kadar oldugu gibi, tum iyi
niyetli yaklasimlarin korunmasina ragmen anlasma saglanamamis ve
yayinlarin iletimi 10.08.2007 tarihinde durdurulmustur.


Digiturk?un, cok yuksek ucret istedigi, ya da uyelik fiyatlarini
artirmak istedigi duyumlari gerçegi yansitmamaktadir. Uyelik
fiyatlari, fiyat artislari ve paket yapilari UBI Pty. Ltd.
tarafindan belirlenmistir. Digiturk?un, gelir artisi yillardir uyelik
sayisina paralel olarak belirlenmektedir, amac siz degerli
uyelerimize ilave maliyet getirmeksizin lokal operatorlerimizle gelir
paylasimi yapmaktir. Ancak tum cabalarimiza karsin, 2007-2008 sezonu
icin anlasma gerceklestirilememistir.

Siz degerli uyelerimize sundugumuz hizmetlerin kesintiye ugramamasi
icin cok daha uygun fiyatli bir alternatif sunmaktayiz. Dunya?nin her
yerinden oldugu gibi, Avustralya?dan da LigTV, ShowTV, Skyturk,
Powerturk ve Iz TV kanallarini internet uzerinden aylik 19,95 USD?den
baslayan fiyatlarla izleyebilirsiniz. Uye olmak için;
www.digiturkwebtv.com websitemizi ziyaret edebilirsiniz. Yuksek yayin
kalitesiyle size ulasmakta olan kanallarimizin sayisini sizlerden
gelecek taleplerle artirmayi hedeflemekteyiz.

Diger macralardan da DIGITURK yayinlarini size ulastirabilmek icin
Avustralya?daki diger servis saglayicilar ile gorusmeler devam
etmekte olup, en kisa surede alternatif yayin yontemlerinin sunulmasi
planlanmaktadir.

Anlayisiniz icin tesekkur eder, saygilarimizi sunariz.

Saygilarimizla,
DIGITURK Musteri Hizmetleri
Tel:0212 473 73 73
Fax:0212 473 73 03
Mailto:destek@digiturk.com.tr


>Bizler, Guzel ulkemizden cok uzaklarda yasamakta olan, UBI World TV
nin
>katkilari ile yayinlanan LIG TV sayesinde, renk askimizi, ozlemimizi
bir nebze
>olsun hafifleten programinizin, yayindan kaldirilisini buyuk uzuntu
ve
>kirginlikla yasamis bulunmaktayiz.
>UBI CEO su yayin iptali icin DigiTurk un asiri yuksek ucret
istekleri oldugunu
>acikladi. Bu yayin iptali konusunda bizleri aydinlatirsaniz cok
memnun oluruz.
>Saygilarimizla,
>Faruk Karsanbas
>Sydney, Australia
>
>
>



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Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 13 Aug 2007 11:51:PM

This is an e-mail that I've recieved from Digiturk Customer Services word for word.....

Sayin Eren,

DIGITURK?un, Avustralya?da yayinlarinin iletimi konusunda calismakta oldugu UBI Pty Ltd. ile anlasmasi 1 Agustos 2007 tarihi itibariyle sona ermistir.

Kontrat gorusmelerinin devam etmesi sebebiyle yayina devam edilmis, ancak ticari sartlar konusunda, bugune kadar oldugu gibi, tum iyi niyetli yaklasimlarin korunmasina ragmen anlasma saglanamamis ve yayinlarin iletimi 10.08.2007 tarihinde durdurulmustur.


Digiturk?un, cok yuksek ucret istedigi, ya da uyelik fiyatlarini artirmak istedigi duyumlari gerçegi yansitmamaktadir. Uyelik fiyatlari, fiyat artislari ve paket yapilari UBI Pty. Ltd.
tarafindan belirlenmistir. Digiturk?un, gelir artisi yillardir uyelik sayisina paralel olarak belirlenmektedir, amac siz degerli uyelerimize ilave maliyet getirmeksizin lokal operatorlerimizle gelir paylasimi yapmaktir. Ancak tum cabalarimiza karsin, 2007-2008 sezonu icin anlasma gerceklestirilememistir.

Diger macralardan da DIGITURK yayinlarini size ulastirabilmek icin Avustralya?daki diger servis saglayicilar ile gorusmeler devam etmekte olup, en kisa surede alternatif yayin yontemlerinin sunulmasi planlanmaktadir.

Anlayisiniz icin tesekkur eder, saygilarimizi sunariz.

Saygilarimizla,

FIGEN UCAKCIOGLU

DIGITURK Musteri Hizmetleri
Tel:0212 473 73 73
Fax:0212 473 73 03
Mailto:destek@digiturk.com.tr

English:
Dear Eren,
The contract we have had with UBI Pty LTD has ended on 1st of August 2007.
Due to the reasons of negotiating of the contract, the broadcast resumed normally, but due to business reasons, even though we have tried
our best to get this contract to happen, the broadcast ended on 10.08.2007.
As to us (Digiturk) asking for more money, rising member fees are entirely not true. Member fees, rise of fees and making of packages are
entirely in the hands of UBI Pty. Ltd. The yearly income are risen on the amount of members that have been added on. Although what ever did
to get the Turkish community to get these channels, the broadcasting of the 2007-2008 season could not have to come an agreement.
We are trying our best to get these and other sport channels back to you in Australia via other servicing companies. Very soon, we will have
those channels broadcasted by another carrier.
Thank you

Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 13 Aug 2007 11:53:PM

so from what I understood they are bringing the channels back via other services, and as you can see another member has recieved the same e-mail. So basically its Mr. Mike who is greedy, well obvious he did do the bankrupt insurance scheme couple of years ago and left us without a service before......
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 13 Aug 2007 11:55:PM

I guess the time will tell the truth about the Lig-Tv cancellation...
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 13 Aug 2007 11:59:PM

faruk i was just on the phone with someone who knows this case very good they said they are speaking with a company called "Foxtel" and the price they asked from UBI was 19.90 USD. Like they said to us in the email, UBI is thinking of its own profit and doubling their offered price and feeding that to us...
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:05:AM

They must be so thick!...
They most probably calculated the total income from the subscribers in the past few months forgetting that many ppl cancelled the Lig-Tv for that period as there was not much to see, and the result of their calculation was obviously very low....And, I belive that they are trying to force the Turkish community to get cheaper deals so they can recover the loss they had in the pass...It's not fair to the ppl who has been with UBI since the beginning of the tarbs like myself...we are the ones who will be paying the dept...
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:09:AM

yep definately.... If Digiturk was charging $40 for LigTV they would be charging all their consumers including DFT (American based UBI) where by the way DFT charges 46.70 USD which is (46.70 USD = 55.6460 AUD) so we can see basically who is trying to rip off us.....
Posted By: crazy_Turk

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:11:AM

@ lazer & hrny bastard whatever your nick is, word out there is foxtel (austar) are on the verge of going through negotations with ligtv, very funny huh..
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:11:AM

sorry DFH this is their website by the way... http://www.dfhnet.com/dfhtv/signup.asp?InfoSectionID=63
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:15:AM

Crazy....

I also heard that there was another provider trying to establish some sort of 30 Turkish channels included in its program list for about $30 per month....I'm not 100% sure who's behind this but looks like something is cooking and we'll be served better taste foods soon...
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:21:AM

yep for all I care stuff UBI
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:22:AM

Originally Posted by crazy_Turk
@ lazer & hrny bastard whatever your nick is, word out there is foxtel (austar) are on the verge of going through negotations with ligtv, very funny huh..



hahahahahahahaha yes it is very funny I cant stop laughing and i still stand to what I said earlier its not going to happen

Dont sleep keep waiting LOL hahahahahaha
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:24:AM

Originally Posted by fsking
Crazy....

I also heard that there was another provider trying to establish some sort of 30 Turkish channels included in its program list for about $30 per month....I'm not 100% sure who's behind this but looks like something is cooking and we'll be served better taste foods soon...


hahahahahahahaha 30 channels ok now this is getting over the top why would they bring 30 channels over to Australia when they dont do it to the US or anywere else for that matter whats so special about Australia that they would be 30 channels LOL hahaha

Rumours are running wild tonite keep em coming in boys LOL haha
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:28:AM

Lazer...

Can you tell me waht's not going to happen?

UBI is going to bring the Lig-TV.....or
Other provider will....?
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:33:AM

Laser,

There are 100s of Turkish channels in Turkey....I'm sure you're not aware of this....
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:36:AM

Originally Posted by fsking
Laser,

There are 100s of Turkish channels in Turkey....I'm sure you're not aware of this....


Yes ofcourse i know this but the costs involved to bring over 30 channels from Turkey would be more then the income they would make from subsribers here from just one group of people

Its just not going to happen in my eyes these are all rumours as when Tarbs shut there were hundreds of rumours going round its happening all over again now

All rumours will be looked at as rumours till i actually see some hard evidence or the actual thing on satellite then I will stand corrected smile
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:37:AM

If another company was to start you can be sure it wouldn't carry any of the channels currently part of the UBI Turkish Package as they are exclusive and on a long term contract unlike Lig TV which only want a year to year contract as stated by the UBI Chairman at the press conference in front of the Australian Turkish media.

If this so could new company plans to launch I hope they take a look at the licence fees, satellite transponder space to carry the channels over here (eg. Telstar 10 - there is no direct hop from Europe to Australia) plus transponder rental in Australia (eg. Optus B3) and then all the other associated business costs.

This rumour of a new Turkish DTH provider has been brewing since the collapse of TARBS and originated in Melbourne and till this day nothing has been done as they know how hard it is and in the end will end up loosing money in the venture.

Competition is good and would be good as it would give a choice to the Turkish company but I highly doubt they'd survive.

Why would UBI want to increase the price of Lig TV themselves and in return hurt the Turkish community who have been loyal to UBI since the start? Someone is lying here and I can guarantee you it's not UBI. Ask yourself again, why would UBI want to increase the price of Lig TV on it's own if DigiTurk haven't requested a increase in the licence fee? Don't you think that if it was UBI that was pushing for a higher price that DigiTurk would be happier with a higher royalty being paid to them? Just step back a minute and use some logic and wonder how could UBI be the one requesting a higher fee on it's own.

When a new contract is being renewed and the content owner doesn't request a increase in the licence fee then why would the broadcaster request a higher fee from subscribers? Makes sense? Nope!

I do know there is quite a few channels in Turkey but you need to ask yourself how many of them are actually quality channels, have clearance and would have enough content to sustain being broadcaster in Australia? Euro Star was the last channel we added due to the fact that it finally launched an international version. The D-Smart line up as quite a few good channels we could look at getting since UBI have a very good relationship with the Kanal D owner.

I highly doubt you will see Lig TV on Foxtel. The only thing I could imagine would be to see UBI Turkish channels on Foxtel.

Also calling the UBI Call Centre and abusing staff is not on! The kind of foul language given to the staff is not something that someone should be exposed to.
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:44:AM

Exactly why would UBI want to do this to themselves by losing LigTV and losing subscribers

You have to think they were forced into removing it cause of the fees why would UBI want to put itself thru this if it didt need to really guys do u really think UBI wanted this to happen for them to lose these channels really come on.... doesnt take much to see the logic in this and I really doubt you guys would of been happy with paying anymore more money for LigTV you's all started complaining when they asked for $10 extra a month i can just imagine the outcry if they charged anymore for it...

If they didt need to raise the fee they would of kept it im sure they wouldt want to put themselves in this position and lose out why would UBI want to lose subscribers seriously its not hard if you think abit.....
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:46:AM

"I highly doubt you will see Lig TV on Foxtel. The only thing I could imagine would be to see UBI Turkish channels on Foxtel."

This could only be possibble if UBI merges with Foxtel....
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 12:55:AM

Liski & Laser....

I agree on some degree with both of you guys...but I'm still surprised that no-one has ever told us what was the requested increase....What I understood from Mick's comments on 4 times payments required..."but at the same time, he mentioned, if 3000 subscriber pays $40 per month than the Lig-Tv will be on air again..."...that's the bit I do not understand...

I'm asking both of you guys....How many ppl were subscribed on Lig-TV just before the Turkish season finished...probably 2-3 months ago...and how many ppl are on now!...just before the season started which is just two weeks ago...

Can anyone tell me the difference?...Its not very hard to understand why UBI have suffered loss on Lig-Tv due to cancellation of the channel during this off season..and now we will be punished respectively...
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:00:AM

WHY do they need 3000 people to get it back on. Why not just offer it and who ever wants could have it on by paying for it...
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:01:AM

I'm pretty sure there is a minimum amount they would need to pay Lig and proberly 3000 is the number they need as the minimum requirement to pay them
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:03:AM

Why is DigiTurk denying of UBI is saying, also why is Digiturk saying that they are in talks with another company and foxtel confirming this???
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:04:AM

Whis is $40.00 x 3000 = $120.000.00......
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:04:AM

of what UBI is saying to us-- is what i meant to say
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:04:AM

There was 8 people subscribed to Lig TV a la carte at $39.95 (as advised by the UBI Chairman) and in the low hundreds subscribed to Lig TV add on at $9.95

At the time it was $9.95 a month so 4 times would be the figure you see today $39.95. 3000 subscribers x $40 works out to $120,000 a month to cover the costs of Lig TV alone.

That in my opinion is way to much for one channel when that figure easily pays for approx 5 channels per a month.
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:04:AM

faruk its a nice amount isnt it bro eheh
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:06:AM

why would Digiturk be offering this to UBI and a normal rate to other countries that are broadcasting these turkish channels
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:06:AM

How many subs does UBI have?....
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:06:AM

Im guessing Mr. Boulous or whatever his name is, is very unprofessional of how he does his business
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:08:AM

Eren,

That is totally your opinion but having worked with Mr Boulos I believe he is a top business man. If it wasn't for his dream no one could be hopeful to see the amount of ethnic channels you see today in Australia.
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:10:AM

THEN why doesn't Mr. Boulos pro rata the charges of what profit he makes from the other channels and charge us $70.00 a month you know this has happened before and the Turkish community are feeling that they are targetted by Mr. Boulos. Why are we paying for greek, serb, etc channels when we only want turkish.. See ? Its common sense if he is charging everyone the same price for ALL channels ?
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:11:AM

I do not believe that there were not enough ppl paying this amount for Lig-Tv....

As I stated in my earlier posts...its very easy to see the difference between few months apart...

We can not change what's happened but we can force UBI to take appropriate action and rearrage it programming...

Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:14:AM

definately...
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:14:AM

Other channels cover the costs of the higher priced channels. The true cost of the Turkish channels would be higher then $70 a month. The total amount at the end of the day balances it across all languages to try and keep costs down. As mention in the past, it costs the same amount to bring 8 Turkish channels into Australia then it is to bring 29 Arabic.
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:17:AM

Liski....

What would happen if ppl start cancelling their subs?.....

Can you see the loss that Mt Boulos have to transferr the others...
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:18:AM

I want LigTV to be added back in the line up.. We have been paying 9.95 for 3 months for nothing, so Mr.Boulos charged everyone that wanted it seen how the PROFIT was coming and wasn't happy with the outcome... simple as that..
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:22:AM

That question I can't answer but Lig TV hasn't been UBI's best and most prized Turkish channel.

People were warned back in April when Lig TV went add on and if the support isn't there then you risk loosing Lig TV all together, and look what happened - the numbers were low and price went up even further and goodbye Lig TV.

UBI didn't want it to come down to this but at the end of the day business is business and in my own opinion UBI wasn't launched to be a money loosing business to try and subsidise channel fees if the money isn't there to pay it. It's strange to think that people believe UBI is some kind of charity service, that is what the FTA Government channels are for. UBI must be profitable to be able to continue running and providing the ethnic community a wider selection of channels.
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:23:AM

I have been with UBI since the beginning and payed for the extra $9.95 from the day one they sarted as additional...and never cancelled even when the season off as I believe that this is a give & take business and we all do our duties to make it right!.

But. I'm very dissapointed with the end...I might cancell the whole thing and go back to the basic as I allways find TRT-INT is worth to watch and there is allways news as well as good sports programs...
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:23:AM

Anyone that paid for Lig TV for this month got an automatic reimbursement to their UBI account for $9.95 so that money is going back into the subscriber's pocket, not UBI's.
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:26:AM

And....most importantly....ITS FREE...
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:28:AM

for a month and the other months of no soccer. first day of the league and bang gone... If Mr. Boulos was a professional businessman he wouldnt have of scammed the government and did the bankrupt thing... Why have the Turkish community always been the target no other channels are having problems... I'm guessing we are the biggest money margin on his scale and he loves to screw us around... This is definately frustrating and as for CrazyTurk's comments I work for Foxtel in a way, and management are in process of getting these channels to Foxtel, that I have an e-mail from Foxtel Management prooving this. So laugh lazer all you want, i'm sorry no one acknowledges you know the greekish league...
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:30:AM

Mate we get all Greek League matches on ERT World which is FREE TO AIR for everyone to watch maybe TRT should think about doing this then maybe you guys would be abit better off smile

About Foxtel getting it as I said earlier I will believe it when I see it and thats about it..... smile
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:34:AM

Once again I highly doubt Foxtel will go out of it's way and independently source ethnic channels, just won't happen.

Eren, you make me laugh that you believe UBI is solely after causing the Turkish community grief. I don't have enough fingers to count the amount of rumours I've heard since Saturday when the Lig TV issue started. One being that some kind of Mafia is out to get the Turkish community and one way they know how to through soccer, like come on!
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:35:AM

mate, did you hear that from me ?
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:36:AM

I'm going to happily ring and complain to UBI whenever i have the chance, and so far I have been ringing every hour, see how that goes..
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:37:AM

My post doesn't mention that you were the one but was it you? lol
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:37:AM

and as for people ringing and abusing the staff, like liski and lazer said that is unnecessary. Its not the staffs fault, ring Mr. Boulos lol
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:37:AM

I guess being the most hated caller is your goal smile

But in all fairness abusing call centre staff is not fair, especially our friend Turkish girls frown
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:38:AM

mate, thats the most Outrageous rumour i've heard... keep it coming when the rumours you make on your own time..
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:39:AM

Yep, loving it
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:39:AM

I only wish I made it up. If you were able to hear some of the calls you would understand what the call centre staff go through day in and day out.
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:39:AM

mate is there any chance of LigTV getting back on our lineups
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:41:AM

That is totally up to DigiTurk.

I would really like to get Show TV back on as soon as possible to get the Turkish women insane again since they've been missing out on their dizis lol
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:43:AM

We are complatelly off the main subject....

We should consantrate and find a way to resolve this issue...

Abuse or fight will not solve anything other than unnecessary removals, bans etc...also upsetting others not the way to get a result I believe....
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:44:AM

lol well doesnt ShowTV have an agreement with Digiturk... I don't understand why Digiturk would charge UBI this crazy amount and not other companies such as DFH in America..
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 01:47:AM

DigiTurk might charge them the same fee when their contract is up for renewal or maybe the higher fee isn't necessary as the subscriber base is no where near what it is in Australia.
Posted By: HoRnEyDvL

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 02:03:AM

STOP & THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE.

WHY WOULD DIGITURK OPENLY COME OUT & SAY THAT WHAT MR B SAID IS TRUE?

Do you think they are that dumb to say it to have 1000's of turks start calling them & complaining to them. Its easy to shift the blame to me B as he is in Australia.

As for Foxtel getting lig tv Ill keep laughing to some one proves me wrong & i eat my own words.

Posted By: apsattv

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 04:30:AM

Originally Posted by Eren
Im guessing Mr. Boulous or whatever his name is, is very unprofessional of how he does his business


I'm not saying a word here
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 06:34:PM

I also think the interpretation and wording of the press conference is a bit wrong.

Quote
To pay the fee which DigiTurk requests UBI to pay would mean UBI would have to increase the cost of Lig TV to the subscribers four fold, hence UBI has been subsidising the cost of Lig TV for a long time. That would mean 3000 subscribers paying $40 for Lig TV and this cost doesn’t include the actual transmission fees for the signal.


I hope this helps
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 07:15:PM

Liski,

Mr Boulos clearly indicated that if 3000 subs pays 4 times the current payment for Lig-TV than he can get the channel back on air...

So, this would be a clear cut if 12000 subs pay their Lig-Tv than there will be no more issues...
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 08:00:PM

Bingo! There was no where near that amount of Lig TV take ups be it as an add on or a la carte - UBI tried to lower the licence fee but no go.
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 08:49:PM

Originally Posted by apsattv
Originally Posted by Eren
Im guessing Mr. Boulous or whatever his name is, is very unprofessional of how he does his business


I'm not saying a word here


Might have to recruit you as an agent once we launch in NZ smile
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 08:54:PM

hahahaha LOL smile
Posted By: reuder

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 09:10:PM

"To pay the fee which DigiTurk requests UBI to pay would mean UBI would have to increase the cost of Lig TV to the subscribers four fold, hence UBI has been subsidising the cost of Lig TV for a long time. That would mean 3000 subscribers paying $40 for Lig TV and this cost doesn’t include the actual transmission fees for the signal."

Who the hell came up with that? Sure you're an ethnic pay tv provider, but most people do understand English.
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 09:35:PM

I didn't get your comment reuder
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 09:40:PM

Dumbed down version:

- UBI has been paying DigiTurk approx $120000 a month for the past few years

- UBI can no longer subsidise Lig TV

- For UBI to keep airing Lig TV it would have to increase the cost of Lig TV 4 times what it is now

- That would mean 3000 paying $40 for Lig TV or even 12000 paying $9.95
Posted By: Dan04

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 10:16:PM

Wow!!! LigTV such an expensive channel for that money we could have another 30 Arabic channels or more proberly with that kind of money!!!
Posted By: ShaRp

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 10:38:PM

Originally Posted by Liski
Dumbed down version:

- UBI has been paying DigiTurk approx $120000 a month for the past few years

- UBI can no longer subsidise Lig TV


so what you're saying Liski, Digiturk didn't increase the price significantly but UBI decided not to pay it anymore because it is not commercially viable.

Did I understand it right?

Posted By: HoRnEyDvL

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 10:56:PM

Hmmmm
$120000 A month x 12 months in a year.
$1,440,000

Thats alot of money for such a small ammount of subscribers.
Posted By: HoRnEyDvL

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 11:13:PM

To My above Post

I might be doing my maths wrong but ill give it a shot.
If ubi where to charge the turkish comunity an extra $5 a month they will need 25,000 Turkish subscribers willing to pay $65 a month just to cover the cost of $1,440,000 that lig tv are asking for.

This info is in no way affiliated with ubi.
Posted By: reuder

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 11:21:PM

Originally Posted by Eren
I didn't get your comment reuder


Just because UBI's customers are of ethnic origin, it doesn't mean they can go el cheapo on the English press release. It also doesn't give the company a professional image.
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 14 Aug 2007 11:22:PM

ShaRp,

Sounds about right
Posted By: apsattv

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 12:44:AM

Originally Posted by Liski


Might have to recruit you as an agent once we launch in NZ smile


Oh yeah sure when will that be..I might be dead by then
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 12:47:AM

So,

Forget the Lig-TV then.....

I can not see any future for it in UBI as well as on other platforms...

No-one would pay soo much money just to watch some crap repeats from home...and I was only interested in my team Galatasaray...

The UEFA Cup as well as Champions League Cup went to the D-Smart and the shit was left to us...

My mate is on revenge and I bet he has got something on this...

Posted By: crazy_Turk

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 07:32:AM

Originally Posted by HoRnEyDvL
To My above Post

I might be doing my maths wrong but ill give it a shot.
If ubi where to charge the turkish comunity an extra $5 a month they will need 25,000 Turkish subscribers willing to pay $65 a month just to cover the cost of $1,440,000 that lig tv are asking for.

This info is in no way affiliated with ubi.


hmm sounds quite resonable at least 25,000 paying $5 extra, better than $40, Liski is there any slight chance the you guys could put together a survey of how many people would be willing pay extra?? even if not 25,000 people the people who are interested have that amount divide how much extra would be needed to be payed,

becuase $40 extra is just scaring people away and sounds like UBI arnt that devoted to keeping ligtv when they give that as an example, i think a survey should be done through out the turkish comminty via channel 66 ex ligtv somehow
Posted By: crazy_Turk

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 07:35:AM

we cannot give up this easily to losing such a great channel, having it once and not having it the next , its like that guy who won 10 million,blew it all and now living in a caravan park on $40 a week as on acurrent afair a while ago, as in now left with nothing!!
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 02:11:PM


Crazy...

I agree but who would pay an extra $5 where all were jumping up & down when UBI made the Lig-TV optional for $9.95...

If many of them did not subscribed on Lig-TV...knowing that many of the current ones cancelling the service right now...How many of us are still left?.....

I think, Mr Boulos made a big mistake! by calling it off as many ppl are still thinking the old Tarbs days...
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 03:17:PM

You all seem to think that Lig TV is a massive channel and the extra charge that occurred back in April and even the removal of the channel has or will cause a massive departure of customers - simply not correct.

Also Mr Boulos isn’t UBI so no need to keep saying Mr Boulos has made a bad decision. UBI do have a board of directors that make decisions so no need to constantly put the blame on him.
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 04:31:PM

Liski....

Its all the same!....

Yes, I believe that the removal of Lig-Tv will cause more departures from UBI...

For exapmle,

Myself, I've been with UBI many years...mainly for the live soccer...

I'm still waiting for some news that this issue will be rectified, but if I don't hear anything till the end of this month than goodby to UBI..

I can still get Monday updates from TRT-Int and that's good enough comparing the rest of the channels...

So, I'm sure most of the soccer fans feel the same way...
Posted By: crazy_Turk

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 06:59:PM

aprroximatley about an hour ago i seen the zurich - besiktas game be aired on kanal d with the D-smart logo on the other corner (which got me excited), i was wondering if UBI had come to some sort of agreement with them to air these games over here or something, if so there should be an announcement made,
there is galatasarays game tonight which i would really like to watch...
Posted By: crazy_Turk

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 07:01:PM

btw i just found out that ligtv is also showing tonights game, they must have some agreement with d-smart?? but to bad we dont have ligtv no more.. for now hopefully....

http://www.ligtv.com.tr/UefaKupasi.aspx?r=1&hid=24492
Posted By: crazy_Turk

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 07:10:PM

totally agree, and you cant tell me if boulos did want this channel added back to the platform it wouldnt happen?? pffftt...

after all he is the big boss isnt he smile

Lan liski some you just make me think are you m.boulos yourself... smile
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 07:23:PM

Crazy....

When did you watch the match on Kanal-D?....was it at the same time when the match was live on D-Smart?...
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 07:39:PM

Kanal D might but I doubt they have clearance to air it internationally eg on Euro D.

UBI would love to have Lig TV back but only if it's finically viable.

Lan ben Mr Boulos degilim, Emin olun ki burada oturup butun gun sizinle yazismaz
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 10:25:PM

Liski oyle konusmayi nerden ogrendin, O saatte tercumani nerden buldun ? LigTV tekrar acilsin hadi ya
Posted By: KaaN10

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Wed 15 Aug 2007 10:35:PM

Hey, I'm Kaan from Victoria and would like to know if their is any chance of LigTV returning to air on UBI anytime soon. I'm craving to watch the Turkcell Super League! smile
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Thu 16 Aug 2007 12:24:AM

KaaN10,

Best to read through the thread.
Posted By: sergen

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Thu 16 Aug 2007 02:28:PM

is anyone know if LIGTV IS coming back soon?
Posted By: sergen

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Thu 16 Aug 2007 02:30:PM

Why UBI is not trying to find out how many people will pay what they want? Now the season started i am sure lots more people will pay.....
Posted By: crazy_Turk

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Thu 16 Aug 2007 06:08:PM

just come to think of it now, after a conversation with a friend,
UBI upped the price of ligtv with 2-3 weeks left of the turkish league...yess>??
when basically the champion and all teams postions in the league were declared and most the excitement was gone..

so why would people pay just for that 2-3 weeks extra a plus another 2months while the league is on break whilst the the only main reason people love Ligtv is to wach these games... thats an extra $30...

i strongly urge UBI to do a survey of how many people would like to see Ligtv back on its platform(of course committing to pay for it) and redo a quote of how much extrra to pay for the amount of people intersted, they should quote in there survey the more people the lesser people will pay extra, as mentioned earlier $40 extra a month is just ridicoulously out of the question!!
Posted By: crazy_Turk

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Thu 16 Aug 2007 06:25:PM

Originally Posted by fsking
Crazy....

When did you watch the match on Kanal-D?....was it at the same time when the match was live on D-Smart?...

aournd 1230 in the afteroon yesterday with the big D-smart logo on the top right hand corner
Posted By: KaaN10

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 12:59:AM

Any recent updates?
Posted By: KaaN10

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 02:54:AM

Any new updates?
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 03:09:AM

Yes.....

The new rumour....

Crazy John is on the process of bringing all the channels together...

Soon, He will be announcing the new plans...
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 06:10:AM

this is pissing me off.
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 12:16:PM

Originally Posted by fsking
Yes.....

The new rumour....

Crazy John is on the process of bringing all the channels together...

Soon, He will be announcing the new plans...


LOL thats the funniest one I've heard yet I'll add to the rest of the rumours LOL haha smile
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 04:22:PM

As told.....

It's a rumour and will stay like that till I see it myself...

Until then we need to push UBI to create a solution for us...

By the way, I can not understand why one of the first gent who brought the ATV, STV etc here and merged with Tarbs, using another company for DigiTurk promotions...It's very strange!!!.. I'm sure he was part of the UBI management but acting against the whole concept....
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 06:43:PM

Originally Posted by fsking

By the way, I can not understand why one of the first gent who brought the ATV, STV etc here and merged with Tarbs, using another company for DigiTurk promotions...It's very strange!!!.. I'm sure he was part of the UBI management but acting against the whole concept....


Don't understand what you mean?
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 07:34:PM


UBI is here to transmit the DigiTurk....

The person behind the DigiTurk WebTV was part of UBI and I believe he's still...and his company is playing main role to distribute the DigiTurk outside the UBI!...

Can you explain how does this work!...In one side he's UBI and on the other He's not....
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 07:36:PM

Or is it part of a new plan introuced by Mr. Boulos to create more sale!...or in other words, more confusion!...
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 07:37:PM

Digiturk WebTV is run by Digiturk themselves and is a service for the whole world not just Australia
Posted By: KaaN10

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 08:27:PM

So any chance of us getting LigTV back already!
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 09:58:PM

You don't get it mate!.....Search the site and you'll know what I mean....
Posted By: night_flight

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sat 18 Aug 2007 11:14:PM

maybe tv plus should take it HAHAHA
Posted By: ShaRp

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sun 19 Aug 2007 01:13:AM

Digiturk says whoever takes it it will be for the next season. if digiturkwebtv can't attract customers this year we might see lig tv on ubi next year.

what I'm wondering if we can share digiturk webtv password. 1 pays 3 shares for example.
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sun 19 Aug 2007 01:20:AM

night_flight,

TV Plus? I think they have enough problems to deal with atm smile

ShaRp,

UBI does hope Lig TV returns for this season but it all in DigiTurks hands regarding the contract specifics.
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sun 19 Aug 2007 04:48:PM

any news as of yet ?
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sun 19 Aug 2007 06:30:PM

Nope
Posted By: sergen

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sun 19 Aug 2007 06:33:PM

i will wait until Fiday and if ligtv is not back on then i am cancelling my ubi.....Its not worth it
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sun 19 Aug 2007 06:43:PM

sergen,

If you do decide to terminate please make sure you call well before your due date so you have enough time to request and return the termination letter.
Posted By: sergen

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sun 19 Aug 2007 06:51:PM

i will. Thanks
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sun 19 Aug 2007 09:54:PM

Liski,

How long do we have before terminating the service?...For example, If the end date of the billing period is on 31st...what's the last day to inform the UBI for termination...Thanks in advance...
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Sun 19 Aug 2007 10:59:PM

fsking,

As per the T&C it is 30 days notice but if your due dat is eg. 31 you should give yourself approx 2 weeks to be able to request a termination letter to be sent out and return it before your due date. Once the termination is returned and processed we will switch the signal off on your due date we will send out a reply paid envelope to return the STB if it's leased.
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 12:37:AM

Liski...

Are we getting $9.95 refund for the Lig-TV in our next bill?...

If so, we should be charged $50.00 in the next bill...is that right?....
Posted By: KaaN10

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 12:37:AM

This is ridiculous and pathetic. The only reason I have UBI is for LigTV. Another week of " No Soccer " And I'm getting rid of this.
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 12:47:AM

fsking,

Your account would've automatically be credited $9.95, if you have already received a bill that has Lig TV on it you can subtract the Lig TV fee and just pay the remaining.

If you want PM me your Cust ID and I can check it for you.
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 12:48:AM

KaaN10,

If you want Lig TV here and now then you should subscribe to the DigiTurkWebTV monthly service.
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 01:31:AM

If I can find it, I will...

after I accept the credit card debit payment, I lost track of these payments...and if I remember correctly, I never received any bill since...

Would you be able to trace it by using my name, surname and Tel number as I used them last time whe inquiring Lig-TV...

Thanks...
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 01:41:AM

fsking,

Yep, just PM your tel number.
Posted By: KaaN10

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 01:42:AM

I cant watch Digiturkwebtv games live. My speed is 256k and the requirement is 1024k.
Posted By: imparator_terim

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 02:27:AM

Originally Posted by fsking
Yes.....

The new rumour....

Crazy John is on the process of bringing all the channels together...

Soon, He will be announcing the new plans...


I've heard that as well, apparently he was on Turkish radio not long ago saying that he was currently in negotiations with DigiTurk in an effort to bring LigTV, along with other Turkish channels to Australia.

Also, in an email reply a friend of mine got from DigiTurk they say they're in negotiations with someone (doesn't say who) in an effort to bring LigTV and other channels to Australia.

Lets hope its all true and Crazy John does bring Turkish channels to Australia
Posted By: HoRnEyDvL

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 03:25:AM

Hmm correct me if im wrong but is not crazy johns a mobile Phone Shop?

HAHA if it is then good luck to them.
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 03:36:AM

Do you read business review...financial times...recent merges between conpanies?......

It's not just a phone company now!.....
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 10:43:AM

This rumour has been around since TARBS shut so.....
Posted By: sergen

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 02:08:PM

I heard that Digiturk is not asking huge amount of extra money at all for ligtv.. I dont understand why Ubi is not doing anything to solve this problem, obviously they can afford to loose their Turkish customers!!!!
Posted By: ShaRp

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 02:09:PM

Originally Posted by LAZERSAT
This rumour has been around since TARBS shut so.....


correct. it's just a rumour. Nothing more.

Although Crazy Jones' owner (the richest under 40 in Australia)is a turk, he's never been really involved with Turkish community or Turkish related activities (he is only member of a small, unfunctional chamber of turkish commerce). I don't even believe he watches turkish tv at his mansion.

So I wouldn't hold my breath.
Posted By: ShaRp

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 02:15:PM

Originally Posted by KaaN10
I cant watch Digiturkwebtv games live. My speed is 256k and the requirement is 1024k.


and i guess your isp won't allow speed upgrades
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 04:09:PM

Originally Posted by ShaRp
Originally Posted by KaaN10
I cant watch Digiturkwebtv games live. My speed is 256k and the requirement is 1024k.


and i guess your isp won't allow speed upgrades


At what cost!....
Posted By: The.One

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 05:59:PM

This whole issue with UBI,Digiturk....mike boulos is abviously trying to rip off more Turkish people for Lig TV, and one thing he should realise is that we are one of he's biggest customers, and that he should do what ever he can, not to loose us.
i am sure he has seen the email sent to myself and others from Digiturk, stating that the higher price increase was NOT asked by Digiturk. Now, he should have the guts to appear on UBI television, and either deny what Digiturk has said, or accept the fact that he was in the wrong.
Posted By: ShaRp

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 06:06:PM

Originally Posted by fsking
Originally Posted by ShaRp
Originally Posted by KaaN10
I cant watch Digiturkwebtv games live. My speed is 256k and the requirement is 1024k.


and i guess your isp won't allow speed upgrades


At what cost!....


At a cost cheaper than what UBI(or Digiturk) wants !!!
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 06:31:PM

The.One,

Have you even read through the thread?

Let me explain it for the 100th time - The price from DigiTurk to UBI hasn't increased. UBI was paying approx $120,000 a month for the past 3 years and basically subsidising the cost to bring Lig TV to Australia. UBI tried to negotiate a new price but the talks broke down - it was basically either continue subsidising Lig TV or charge the subscriber more or remove Lig TV completely.

If you read through DigiTurk’s reply it does state they base the Lig TV licence fees on the number of subscribers a company has, maybe they think all of UBI’s Turkish subscribers are Lig TV’s watches which is not correct.

The UBI Chairman has already appeared on TV explaining our stance.
Posted By: sergen

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 07:08:PM

i watched that and Mr Boulos clearly said that DIGITURK is asking for more money, which is NOT the case.He should have said that ubi is paying $120.000 a month and cant afford to do so anymore...Ubi obviously asked less money for licence fee and digiturk said no to that...
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 07:15:PM

Well according to the DigiTurk Press Release and emails even they say they have raised the price approx 2 times so I'm not sure if the $120,000 is the new or old pricing but regardless if you believe UBI is the bad evil one then go right ahead and think that as nothing I write will make you or anyone change your thoughts.

Translation as per fskings post on here
[qoute]As to us (Digiturk) asking for more money, rising member fees are entirely not true. Member fees, rise of fees and making of packages are entirely in the hands of UBI Pty. Ltd. The yearly income are risen on the amount of members that have been added on.[/quote]
Posted By: sergen

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 07:37:PM

no that is not true. i have got an email from Digiturk as well and they dont say at all, i can forward the email to you if you like,all they say is it is up to ubi to charge more or less to the customers and they did not ask for money at all
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 07:57:PM

So your telling me that DigiTurk don't request any licence fees for Lig TV?
Posted By: sergen

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 08:06:PM

No i am not saying that, all i am saying is that they did NOT ask for more money for licence fee.
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 08:10:PM

Have you read through my posts?
Posted By: Liski

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 08:58:PM

I would like to say that I will no longer be replying to this thread until there is something new regarding this issue. This is due to the fact that I'm going round in circles and constantly repeating myself as people choose to read what they want to read not what is presented on this forum.

I will make a new post if there is any new Turkish channels starting up on UBI.

I'd like to thank the small amount of people on here with logic and who actually read through my posts and understood what I wrote.
Posted By: fsking

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 09:12:PM

Liski....

You're wellcome...but we need some news from you, so please do not forget us...
Posted By: apsattv

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Mon 20 Aug 2007 11:03:PM

Liski has laid it out.

UBI stupidly paid far to much for this channel 3 years at 120000 per month.

Obviously they should of cut it off far earlier or spent the money on discounting existing sub prices.
Posted By: Eren

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 21 Aug 2007 04:16:AM

Originally Posted by Liski
Well according to the DigiTurk Press Release and emails even they say they have raised the price approx 2 times so I'm not sure if the $120,000 is the new or old pricing but regardless if you believe UBI is the bad evil one then go right ahead and think that as nothing I write will make you or anyone change your thoughts.

Translation as per fskings post on here
[qoute]As to us (Digiturk) asking for more money, rising member fees are entirely not true. Member fees, rise of fees and making of packages are entirely in the hands of UBI Pty. Ltd. The yearly income are risen on the amount of members that have been added on.
[/quote] that was my post, also you guys have basically quit on answering these aye? haha typical
Posted By: sergen

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 21 Aug 2007 11:21:AM

There you go!!You asked me the same question as well and yes i did read all your postings. Basicly what you are saying is DIGITURK asked for more money this season and ubi did not agree to that.Which is NOT the case.They did NOT ask for more money and THAT IS IT
Posted By: LAZER

Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes - Tue 21 Aug 2007 12:27:PM

Whatever Liski says people will just read what they choose to read so believe what you want people...

If there is anything new regarding this Liski will post about it

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