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Any new news from UBI lately? Talking to a few that sub for the new spanish channels and they are saying will UBI have English channels and will they charge You more for the basic ones, anything new in that department. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Hammer, Maybe you should post this in the UBI forum. When English channels arrive on UBI there will not be an extra charge.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by LISKI iTV: Hammer, Maybe you should post this in the UBI forum. When English channels arrive on UBI there will not be an extra charge. <hr /></blockquote>No extra charge, not even for the MOVIE NETWORK etc?

No I would say Movie Network, Disn, will cost you more but basic channels like TARBS had were Free,( CNN EPSN MCM TCM CART NET ) you never know guys you might be all in luck by the end of the year.

Reuder, What Liski means is your current sub is inflated artifically to start with so that later when UBI get around to adding English channels. They can claim you won't pay any extra for them. Now now don't attack for stating the facts and accusing me of being negative about UBI cough cough A pity you can't chose to pay $10 less then add those English channels later when they arrive down the track. Christmas?

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by reuder: <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by LISKI iTV: Hammer, Maybe you should post this in the UBI forum. When English channels arrive on UBI there will not be an extra charge. <hr /></blockquote>No extra charge, not even for the MOVIE NETWORK etc? <hr /></blockquote>Hammer did ask about the BASIC ones which liski answered there wont be no extra charge for them

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by apsattv: Reuder, What Liski means is your current sub is inflated artifically to start with so that later when UBI get around to adding English channels. They can claim you won't pay any extra for them. Now now don't attack for stating the facts and accusing me of being negative about UBI cough cough A pity you can't chose to pay $10 less then add those English channels later when they arrive down the track. Christmas? <hr /></blockquote>We all know this, TARBS did the same, its the best way to get the cash flow up and running quickly <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

COPY Tarb's?? ooooooh that's a great idea....

Unfortunately TARBS backers didn't have influential ones like Foxtel does.. Foxtel is still making a loss. You don't see the banks calling it in...

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by apsattv: COPY Tarb's?? ooooooh that's a great idea.... <hr /></blockquote>Tarbs made a few mistakes but don't they all and you hope you would learn from them. Foxtel losing money? they still lose a truck load per month how long can they afford this, whats next?, to make money Foxtel will become compulsory for all in Oz. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

Always negativity from you apsattv. ERM. What is Apsattv anyway?

i think its Asia Pacific Satellite TV <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

...some jerk. Has his own forum, obviously lame, as he spends all of his time on this one, being a smart **** and trying to feed of other people’s misfortune <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> Vlad...

lol Vlad, lil bit angry r we? he actually entertains me as he's being so funny with his negativity sometimes. also I like reading Phil's posts defending UBI as if it's his own company against apsattv's comments. [ 10. August 2005, 09:50 AM: Message edited by: ShaRp ]

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by apsattv: Christmas? <hr /></blockquote>Thats when you told us Impactv was starting on Satellite.....3 years ago <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by P Debono: <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by apsattv: Reuder, What Liski means is your current sub is inflated artifically to start with so that later when UBI get around to adding English channels. They can claim you won't pay any extra for them. Now now don't attack for stating the facts and accusing me of being negative about UBI cough cough A pity you can't chose to pay $10 less then add those English channels later when they arrive down the track. Christmas? <hr /></blockquote>We all know this, TARBS did the same, its the best way to get the cash flow up and running quickly <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Yes but a problem with this approach is that I didn't subscribe the Tarbs until they started showing English channels because I didn't see the value in it, and a lot of people did the same. Someone could probably confirm that the Tarbs subscription numbers really took off when English channels were introduced.

When My parents had tarbs we had all the English channels including the Movie network channels it was fair mum and dad had the Balkans channels and at least us younger generation had some good English movie channels and ESPN. Now I like ESPM because it shows the drag racing. From my parents get the best balkans channels with the same English channels that tarbs have an we will sign up, for us again it will be ha happy family mainy for my wife and my parents who live with us.

If I half remember subs for TARBS went up when they introduced the Movie Network channels.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Darth Vader: ...some jerk. Has his own forum, obviously lame, as he spends all of his time on this one, being a smart **** and trying to feed of other people’s misfortune <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> Vlad... <hr /></blockquote>No he not that bad if you compare him to ja. Mr apsattv is a saint with a diode in each eye <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Hey isn't it great to see a pay tv company in Australia making a profit.. Well done Austar.. Obviously the banks are in a better business, CBA almost 4 billion profit.. Thats legitimate daylight robbery for you. While everyone is complaining about high pay tv subscription fees maybe they should look closely at the banks fees and charges.

Yes I agree. UBI will be the next Pay Tv company to make a profit. Now that is a prediction but it could happen soon. And for Foxtail?? Pigs will fly before they will make money. They need a typical pirate running a server to teach them some business tricks how to increase your Subscribers numbers by the hundreds and thousands.

For the Commonwealth Bank well what can you say <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> . I will next time I go in I will give them my 2 bobs worth. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by P Debono: <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Darth Vader: ...some jerk. Has his own forum, obviously lame, as he spends all of his time on this one, being a smart **** and trying to feed of other people’s misfortune <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> Vlad... <hr /></blockquote>No he not that bad if you compare him to ja. Mr apsattv is a saint with a diode in each eye <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>I also think we should leave appsattv alone. His remarks at least are fair and constructive and an honest business which I think UBI aspires to be shouldn't be afraid of some criticism. If he is wrong, let them prove him wrong. Don't even dare to compare him to this dimwit ja - the brainless pest. Biologically they are 2 different worlds.

This place would be really boring if we all shared the same opinions on everything. and Vlad I don't run any forum, I do link to Vetruns FTA forum on my website.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Darth Vader: ...some jerk. Has his own forum, obviously lame, as he spends all of his time on this one, being a smart **** and trying to feed of other people’s misfortune <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> Vlad... <hr /></blockquote>Geezzz mate get a life.You are so week, can't argue with his argument so you go for the jugalar and make a PERSONAL attack on him. Mate that piss poor effort. mixo P.s has this forum got moderators or what???

Hey Apsattv is cool .. Critisms are more than welcomed from him. He brings that kiwi view of things to the round table.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> I enjoy his comments at times <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by mixo: Geezzz mate get a life.You are so week, can't argue with his argument so you go for the jugalar and make a PERSONAL attack on him. Mate that piss poor effort. mixo P.s has this forum got moderators or what??? <hr /></blockquote>mixo, To get off topic for a sec... How the truck do you figure I'm weAk, from my previous comment? Cast your eyes to the top of the forum and you’ll find that I am a moderator. As for my comment 'bout apsattv, I have read every post he has put up on this board and to date I am yet to find one that isn't weaved with spite (God knows why), doom and gloom predictions (for UBI in this particular case) and generally just hopes for anything to happen (including the satellite falling out of the sky) just so they (UBI) don't make it. I am, mixo, just as I presume you are too, a wog and have a vested interest in the success of all pay TV companies that bring a piece of "home" to my parents and relatives, here to Australia, so if I do sound as if I am personally attacking apsattv, it is only because I am tired of those cheap, low blows. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> It took me a while to decide wether to dignify your post with an answer, and as you see, I decided, what the heck… <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Vlad...

vlad the moderator. As a moderator you should know better. It must only be this forum that when people cant argue the point they abuse personally the poster.To me that is a bit cop out.If craigs argument is weak then you make his argument sound week and you will be the better for it and so will I reading your point of view. Yes i am a wog and proud of it.But I too have had releatives who have been burned by tarbs and i cannot forget how upset they where when they lost it for one, and how ANGRY they where when they lost the money they paid upfront.I dont want to see a repeat of this again. I do get sick of the promises in here, yes coming soon, we have this we have that and all the other bulldust that goes on between ALL the providers. Maybe as a moderator you should do a new forum that has facts! only. As a wog I hope when someone picks up the greek channels and offers us a resonable price, then their might be something to crow about. Till that happens can you blame people getting bitchy, angry at these providers for been all talk and no action. mixo

mixo reeeee, People being bitchy, I have no problem with. Most of us have been burned by the collapse of TARBS. The reason for this has been argued to death now. Who was right, who was wrong...blah, blah. I don't want to go into it again, just to say it takes heaps of money and time to bring up a pay TV service for such a diverse profile of population. UBI has been nothing, if not fair about squaring the bill of old TARBS customers (except for the Italians, which got the better end of the deal in the first place <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> ). UBI is allowing its customers, and anyone else for that matter, to view their un-finalised packages, free of charge. They have nearly completed the building of base stations in Europe (Macedonia and Greece). Just take a guess how much content will come from those places, straight to us here Down Under? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> This is a UBI forum where people come to hear, what they can, about when they can expect their content and other similar info. It doesn't need Craig to keep spewing out sly remarks about B1 falling out of the sky, B3 taking over B1's content and UBI closing their doors (and other similar cheap shots). This affects us potential customers, creating needless worry about, once again loosing every connection we had to our "piece of home". Vlad...

mixo and all above including UBI hating apsattv Enough is enough. Mixo!! you have offended me. The difference between myself and others is I don't talk to the office girl or office boy at UBI Nor I talk to liski except to get an accurate channel line up. The People I talk to are all up the family tree right up the top where you can't go on any further. You will get your Greek channels, The Teleport is nearly finished but If I told you why there is a delay and the reasons you might be offended. Put it this way you would find them similiar to what happened to finish the Olympics Construction, Workers had to be imported from everywhere outside Greece. I'm not saying more you work it out.

Put it this you My friends cannot find a person Qualified to do ??Not saying ?? in Greece for God sake he has to be flown in from another country. Yes this time UBI are paying there bills! not like what happened to my mates (D Cottle)that were caught between the TARBS death to the startup of UBI.

Vlad B1 being replaced by B3 was a totally valid comment. Sky NZ said they had gained access to back up capacity if B1 failed time frame given was within 10 weeks. They announced this to the NZ sharemarket. I asked John Fellet Boss of Sky, he said they had arranged with Optus Backup capacity but he didn't know the details. Just the facts at the time. B3 replacing B1 would of meant major chaos! it seems they are crossing their fingers about 9 months to go. As D1 has been reported as not going up before May 2006

apsattv We are not all fools here you know, some of us do know you would have enjoyed every bit of it if it did ever happen. What I can't understand is why you show such a hatred for TARBS now UBI. You very rarely say anything against the other pay tv companies whatsoever.

yes i will admitt i would of loved to see Sky Nz go off. Just as you would love to see Foxtel go off if C1 crapped out. Oh I don't hate UBI either. I see what they are trying to do and have done in the past. To me it was a big slap in the face to all past customers. That they went down the tubes then just a few weeks later restarted up. and i've never bought into the story various people have told about Pas /Murdoch stomping them. anyway this going around in circles we have discussed this all before. let's move on.

PHILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Take a pill and chill..... I was never having a go at ubi.Tarbs yes ubi no. I am not a fan of ubi's but time will tell. I dont HATE ubi. Now phil your post was good and it would have been excellent if you didnt have all the other crap in there that deflected what you really wanted to say about the teleporter. For once I would love to see a post from PHIL that had no crap in it just facts. We live in hope. mixo

mixo can you please put down for all to read what crap I have said, please put it down in point formation for all to read.. Please reply correctly.

I try to hekp the lot of you but from now on I will not say any more AT ALL!!! Mixo don't forget because you're the last. I want a answer what above did I say that you don't believe

Well I suppose If I told you I was typing this from my dreambox you wouldn't believe it also, well unfortunately some today still believe that the earth is flat.

Mixo, If you weren't in the TARBS HQ at the time you wouldn't know what happened.

This is my first letter here on this forum so please excuse me if I make a mistake. I joined this Forum so I could make a comment about what was said in controversy corner about another male bashing ad but what has attracted me is what the adminstrator P Debono said by the look of it trying to find skilled workers in Greece. Well I can tell you this. My Husband's company subcontracts for Transfields doing high voltage work. They won a contract to run high voltage lines on poles, under ground etc. Now this was during the Olympics construction time and he did nothing but complain that to hire the correct people was a case of mission impossible. So he blamed the Olympics because of the rush and panic to get he Olympic village finished on time. But forget that. I will talk about now, yes 2005. My Husband is back there trying to finish a project that they are 6 months behind and they have had nothing but trouble, mistake after mistake, contractors are forever not arriving on site on the day required, wrong material arriving on the site. Now he could be unlucky but his exact words when this subyard is finished, never again NEVER AGAIN.

ahhhhh... I give up! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> Vlad...

Keep everything to yourself Phil feed them nothing.

Well the usual the thing with most big construction projects is to offer a nice big juicy cash bonus if the job is completed on time and to standard. and most likely you also have to "greece" ;-) a few palms along the way to keep everyone happy.

Thats the Problem you shouldn't have to grease people hands with money to get any job done, Sorry to hear that Julie

can u plz tell me how can i add a display pic on my nickname..like how u guys are doing it?? on the left

u cant unless ur a moderator maybe if u ask Phil nicely he might add the pic for u

Liski I dont need to be tarb HQ to know what happened.I really dont care.BUT i do care that people got hurt from the ordeal. Phil go and read your own post again.I aint going over old ground. BTW why does ubi need to build a new teleport,Isnt their 3rd party teleports they can use while they are builing their own??? I am sure greece aint that backwards. mixo

Mixo I will try to write this very simply, so yourself and others can understand. 1. Mike Boulos for one is very dilligent with his money and so are most of us. 2. Uplink fees from a third party uplink company would cost UBI multi million dollars a year for a lousy few channels and if you enter into a short term contract say to bring your beloved MAD TV or others for a few months, it would cost you more for those few channels than if you settle for a long term contract. So, why in the hell would you want to pay for the above, when you can do this below: 3. Buy a block of dirt, say in Greece for a few million dollars, spend anything up to ?? millions (its not up to me to say how much its costing them) setting up a teleport. Even when their two teleports will be fully operational, that means that the ??? will own them and again I am not saying who actually owns them. It doesn't take a smart person to work out that it isn't going to cost him any uplink fees and at the same time, not only is he saving uplink fees, he will be able to make money by uplinking services for other customers. It will only take a few years to recover his costs and it will be one less bill to pay. Somehow or other I have a feeling you guys want your channels today and you don't give a rats A.R.S.E how many millions it cost UBI for a short term as long as you have them thats all you care. The idea of the game is to get them here as cheap as possible and thats where UBI's success will be. Again, it doesn't take a smart person to add up the sums to see what advantage you have by owning your own teleports. It takes longer to set up as we all know for different reasons but eventually they will be operational. The next big problem, there is no doubt about it, the teleport will break down one day in Greece, I wonder who they are going to get to maintain it? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

hmm technicians maybe? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by mixo: Liski I dont need to be tarb HQ to know what happened.I really dont care.BUT i do care that people got hurt from the ordeal. Phil go and read your own post again.I aint going over old ground. BTW why does ubi need to build a new teleport,Isnt their 3rd party teleports they can use while they are builing their own??? I am sure greece aint that backwards. mixo <hr /></blockquote>By the look of it mixo you need lessons in business, or better still how to run one. What I read above makes 100% sense. Why would you want to pay someone a large amount of money when you can do it yourself and at the same time make money and recoup the cost of the installation in a few years. Thats good thinking. Not only it cost him nothing to uplink his own, but he will also become a thief like the others around that region that charge to high hell for uplinking fees. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Surely Teleports in Europe are a dime a dozen? It may have been better for them to buy an existing one rather than build from scratch? Anyway any details about the Teleport? how many dishes? what size etc?

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by apsattv: Surely Teleports in Europe are a dime a dozen? It may have been better for them to buy an existing one rather than build from scratch? Anyway any details about the Teleport? how many dishes? what size etc? <hr /></blockquote>Not if you know what I know but apsattv you're 50% right. Now you tell how do you build a cheap Teleport <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> By the way there is more then one dish on this site <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Maybe Mike Boulos likes the trading post for cheap buys. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by alcatron: hmm technicians maybe? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Only if there reliable <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

I'm picturing someones garage with a 5m uplink dish bolted on the roof! and the receive one is a 65cm on a Moteck!

And thats is as far as you will go <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> keep picturing it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> . The days are gone for me giving anything away as people these days want to use things against you or a company. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

Been very quiet lately guys something must be going on. Reading news groups and other forums there is a list of people waiting for Greek and other Balkans channels from any pay tv company in case ubi gets nothing. lots of confusion out there.

Most of the Original Turkish/Arabic Forum members are not on anymore, they have their channels, To busy watching them and most won't be back not unless something goes wrong. Same thing happened with forums that support piracy in the old days when Foxtel/Austar changed to the new cards/system the servers of these forum crashed with overload but now all is quiet.