The TV Plus receiving 2 more channels from Balkan<br />NTV Hayat from Sarajevo Bosnia, and RTS from Serbia.<br />Will bring you more updates very soon<br />No advertising allowed on aus-city<br /> <br /> <small>[ 16. January 2005, 07:42 AM: Message edited by: Phil Debono ]</small>

well we already knew about NTV Hayat. They're also bringing another bosnian channel, can't think of the name. When's all this going to happen?

Nice bit of advertising.

NTV Hayat reminds me some sort of Turkish programs..Is it really Turkish? <br />Hayat=Life in Turkish...

No reason for advertising.This is good news for all people from ex YU,<br />The TV Plus is in process of signing contract with Bosnian NTV Hayat and others.<br /><br />Will bring you more updates very soon,

Go on this web side and have look, http://www.ntvhayat.com<br /><br /><br />Incel will bring you more updates from TV Plus very soon.

Obviously, its not Turkish! Thanks...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by incel.com.au:<br /><strong> No reason for advertising.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Just thought you'd do it ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

fsking, not Turkish, but very similar! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by incel.com.au:<br /><strong> The TV Plus receiving 2 more channels from Balkan<br />NTV Hayat from Sarajevo Bosnia, and RTS from Serbia.<br />Will bring you more updates very soon<br /> For all you Satellite needs </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Has TV Plus reached an agreement with RTS? I know that they have been talking for a while. If true this is great news! I bet UBI will first illegally broadcast RTS before Tv Plus gets it on. That seems to be the UBI strategy or non strategy. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

What is going on with other bosnian channel=BHT1,http://www.pbsbih.ba/bht1/06subota.html <br />Last time I emailed them they said that is still it process of making an agreement with TV Plus???<br />There is lots of sport including UEFA Champions league, English premier league etc.<br />It's a must if you want to attract those of us who follow this.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by fsking:<br /><strong> NTV Hayat reminds me some sort of Turkish programs..Is it really Turkish? <br />Hayat=Life in Turkish... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Too long & too complicated story but it's as Turkish as possible in Bosnia... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Too long & too complicated story but it's as Turkish as possible in Bosnia... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Please explain!!!do you admire the person who use to ask this Q and her thinking???<br />What is that can you tell us(something from the 500 year ago,or there is something else I did not have chance to watch it yet.<br />I coudn't find anything related to Turkey or turkish interest<br />http://www.ntvhayat.com/home/emisije/

rex68,<br />Simple an short version of what happened above that there is a Turkish" news channel "NTV" like CNN currently transmitted by UBI from Turkiye. I tought "NTV Hayat" has some connections with "NTV" but realised when checked the link http://www.ntvhayat.com, that its a bosnian channel and may or may not be part of NTV. Thanks...

We have in Bosnia lots of Turkish worlds.But Hayat is one of them but nothing to do with Turkey just a name of TV Company.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by rex68:<br /><strong>Please explain!!!do you admire the person who use to ask this Q and her thinking???<br />What is that can you tell us(something from the 500 year ago,or there is something else I did not have chance to watch it yet.<br />I coudn't find anything related to Turkey or turkish interest... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If you're not from former Yugoslavia, IT IS TOO LONG & TOO COMPLICATED story, as I said before. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />If you are from former Yugoslavia, where the BEEP have you been last 15 years??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br /><br />BTW, only idiots could admire politicians, but that's a long way of the topic...<br /> <br /> <small>[ 15. January 2005, 09:46 PM: Message edited by: YU4CFG ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">..but it's as Turkish as possible in Bosnia...</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'm not asking about history and "your explanation" but just the part that I'm quoting again.. Get it??? What do you have in mind when you say that??<br />Where I'm from???<br />I'm from this planet and I love every part of it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by incel.com.au:<br /><strong> The TV Plus receiving 2 more channels from Balkan<br />NTV Hayat from Sarajevo Bosnia, and RTS from Serbia.<br />Will bring you more updates very soon<br /> needs </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Mr incel.com.au<br />No Advertising allowed on this forum.

rex68,<br /><br /><strong>"What do you have in mind when you say that??</strong><br /><br />Exactly what it says. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

hey , When will mktvsat be on the tv plus platform? and where iz ubi getin pink extra from ?

Big_mac,<br /><br />I highly doubt MKSAT will be coming to TV Plus.<br /><br />Pink Extra is direct from Europe, hence the fantastic picture since it's already in PAL format.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Big_mac:<br /><strong> hey , When will mktvsat be on the tv plus platform? and where iz ubi getin pink extra from ? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Once the other balkan channels leave the UBI platform (soon) then there is a good chance that MKTV SAT will also move to TV+. MKTV will soon be worthless to UBI without the other Balkan's. DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO UBI, just keep watching for FTA for a little bit longer. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />UBI is illegally broadcasting Pink Extra. This however is only temporary. The Pink International Company Legal machine has begun to move into action. UBI will be without it's balkan's and could spell the end for UBI. Even UBI's encrypted Turkish package is useless because it's being hacked to death!

I wouldn't be too sure of that Nik Stern.<br /><br />No more posting from me until all is revealed.<br /><br />Ciao

see you at Christmas then Liski <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Liski:<br /><strong> I wouldn't be too sure of that Nik Stern.<br /><br />No more posting from me until all is revealed.<br /><br />Ciao </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Good then no more propaganda from UBI! Every time it's "all will be revealed soon" Well guess what it's just about all been revealed, that is for everyone that wants to see it.<br /><br />How many Turkish Subs so far Liski?

Obviously more than TV+ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nik Stern:<br /><strong>Even UBI's encrypted Turkish package is useless because it's being hacked to death!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes, I noticed this as well, I don't know how but I can freely watch both the Turkish and the Arabic package on my 3100 box.

Nick, It might be a temp authorisation in your box. Most of my friends have subscribed to UBI, had problems opening some of the Turkish channels and all been fixed after the subscription. When UBI finalised total packages activate/deactivate channels on its subs list, you may probably left with only FTA channels.. <br />Liski, you might have a better idea, and would be appreciated if you share with the forum. Thanks....

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nik Stern:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Big_mac:<br /><strong> hey , When will mktvsat be on the tv plus platform? and where iz ubi getin pink extra from ? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Once the other balkan channels leave the UBI platform (soon) then there is a good chance that MKTV SAT will also move to TV+. MKTV will soon be worthless to UBI without the other Balkan's. DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO UBI, just keep watching for FTA for a little bit longer. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />UBI is illegally broadcasting Pink Extra. This however is only temporary. The Pink International Company Legal machine has begun to move into action. UBI will be without it's balkan's and could spell the end for UBI. Even UBI's encrypted Turkish package is useless because it's being hacked to death! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Nik<br />I give you a little hint, as you know the UBI boxes have TARBS Splatted all over their firmware, It will be time to upgrade the firmware over the air, say at around 3am in the morning like foxtel and austar do and one day you wont see TARBS you will see UBI all over the firmware and by doing that not only it looks better but the firmware upgrade will have the neccesity changes done to stop the modded boxes working, you cant card share mentor boxes and a firmware upgrade will fix the rest of the modded boxes.Foxtel did the same to stop the paces and uec's being used for other services just by a firmware upgrade.

I have done a few Turks re/align or installs just in one street in Auburn.

Phil this will not permanently stop the modded boxes working, if it stops them at all. They might if anything just need a tweak and then boom! Free UBI forever or as long as they survive. UBI encryption will be should I say "Swiss Cheese" once again. Folks don't throw away those boxes!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Big Chief:<br /><strong> Obviously more than TV+ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Still have not answered the question, and by the way TV+ doesn't have a Turkish Package yet! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

Gents, As usual main topic is lost again and all the posts are gone in different directions. Please focus on the original topic and leave the rest in other topics or open a new one if required..

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nik Stern:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Big Chief:<br /><strong> Obviously more than TV+ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Still have not answered the question, and by the way TV+ doesn't have a Turkish Package yet! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Nik its in reference to the no. of people subscribing... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nik Stern:<br /><strong> Phil this will not permanently stop the modded boxes working, if it stops them at all. They might if anything just need a tweak and then boom! Free UBI forever or as long as they survive. UBI encryption will be should I say "Swiss Cheese" once again. Folks don't throw away those boxes! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Every CA system is hackable. With the UBI CA system its only restricted to the MDS boxes. However, can't say the same for TV+ Irdeto 2... Now thats Swiss Cheese available on broadband..

Most in Serbian community don't have a broadband, particularly the elderly. Now is it worth it paying a broadband just for card sharing TV+? I don't think so, it'll be cheaper getting it legally.

Will be cheaper in the long run. and broadband will have other uses as well.. Voice over IP..

I know, that's what I'm eagerly waiting for, other broadband services like web TV for instance, and then who cares about card sharing, modding, hacking, ... and hey, who cares about satellite TV.

Boys, boys, boys, boys….<br /><br />Just one more post and then please let’s get back on the subject of the post, please. Ok, we all know or have heard that the mentor boxes have been hacked. I say Mentor boxes and not MDS deliberately. That’s all I’m going to say on that subject. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br />We also know that the security of Irdeto 2 has been compromised as well. That’s equally as good as cracked. That’s all I’m saying on that subject too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />My question to you is the following… What message are we trying to give to our future providers? Buy NDS and charge $100 per month ‘cause we can crack this system as it is? Guy’s, in a civilised society a closed door is enough. Enough, I mean to tell people not to enter and if they want to come in they should knock and wait for permission. In a country of hoons not even deadlocks with 240 Volts on the knob, barb wire with razor blades will stop the idiots from trying to break in! Even stupid mice, which get zapped when going through the wrong part of the maze, quickly learns not to walk there again.<br /><br />Guys, sure we can crack any encryption if we desperately had to. Some do it for money, others for a challenge but we are, ultimately the ones who pay. The providers will have to get their money one way or another, or they’ll just have to shut shop! So again we loose.<br /><br />So Liski and Nik can you please take that subject elsewhere as you are not helping either of your providers. This goes for everyone else too. I personally want both companies to stay alive and compete in a healthy and decent manner. I want ethnic TV to survive in this country. I want people to be able to get TV from their country of origin and so from now on …<strong>anyone posting about hacking, stealing and any other dishonest activity, will have their post deleted. If they further piss me off, I’ll do everything in my power to get them banned!</strong>

Darth Vader<br />We want free speech on this forum and this is from the owner and myself. There will be no removal of posts not unless its personal abuse or advertising<br />which is not permitted.<br />Also you will not be allowed to post topics on how card sharing works if you want to do that either PM each other or become friends and discuss it over the Phone.<br />Any moderator that deletes unnecessary threads will be removed, this is not what this forum stands for. FREE SPEECH.<br />THE ADMIN

Admin,<br /><br />I know that you've been directed to this post so that you can react exactly the way you just did. You have obviously taken the bait on this one.<br /><br />Can you please leave us moderators to moderate. If you feel the need to intervene, then a PM would suffice as this undermines our authority. This is not at all professional from you. Don’t just pull rank whenever someone runs to you winging, man!<br /><br />Free speech is one thing, this clearly has nothing to do with free speech, nor taking the right away. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

Dear admin,<br /><br />With this action, you have obviously displayed that you lack the necessary qualifications to administer a forum. How you got to the position of admin, god only knows.<br /><br />It is sickening to serve under an administration where admins don’t protect their own moderators and clearly undermine their authority. Therefore I hereby resign from moderator. Could you please remove me from moderator on both forums effective immediately.<br /><br />Good luck!

THE ADMIN<br /><br />how can u be a Admin when u have been only a member of this forum for only about 3 months and ur post count is 11 ??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br /><br />i have been a member for nearly a year now and my post count 1466 posts how does this work??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 18. January 2005, 06:13 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

He is obviously an adolescent which knows nothing about the chain of command. God forbid he be a commander of an army!

I told you before in my post when debono atacked satfreak for editing his message.<br /><br />there is no free speech here.<br /><br />There is no good organisation.<br /><br />Admins stick their noses in moderators business and moderators are afraid or unsure how to do their job because of that.

Lazer<br />I have been asked to supervise the forum while the owner is away, And I personally know the Owner.<br />Like I said Debono got into trouble because of Editing and removing post, now he removes nothing!<br />So you want to follow the same path?.<br />Only personal attacks and Advertising will be allowed to be removed this is not underminding your Authority, If its good for Debono not to remove anything its good enough for the others.<br />Did he remove the Letter About TVPlus ordering UBI to stop transmitting the Balkans channels in the UBI forum or others The answer is NO.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by THE ADMIN:<br /><strong><br />So you want to follow the same path?.<br /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">wat do u mean by this ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 19. January 2005, 07:14 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

Admin rulz !!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <br /><br />I don't care what is topic about as far i've got fun reading it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />Now that Darth has resigned, I would like to see ja as new moderator. He is person of great integrity and has much experience in managing a forum, as a moderator and even an administrator and i think he has earned that with his contribution to success of this forum.<br /><br />Let's vote for ja as a new moderator of this forum @!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" />

THE ADMIN<br /><br />Take note that I was asked by David C to run and work this seperate forum and having seen the posts of two experienced forum users "DARTH VADER" as well as "Lazar" stating that they will / would delete posts that they have issues with I will do the same. <br /><br />Dont take this personally but you have only just arrived on the block with your 12 posts and all.<br /><br />I have just re-read my PM from David C from late December 04 and my appointment as Moderator to this forum clearly says "..let the new one run as the moderator(s) want..."<br /><br />Vlad "Darth V" and I are running this forum as we see fit and if he or I choose to delete anything we will do so. Further I will support Darth in any statment or decision he makes as to date all his statments and actions have been honest, reliable and consise. Likewise I believe the same would be said by him regarding me if I deleted / edited any posts.<br /><br />Dont come here stating what you will and wont do as my mandate was made clear before this new forum was setup.<br /><br /> Let it be clear to the forum Darth and I will do our jobs and nobody will get in our way and that will be the end of the discussion.<br /> <br />OK

Further it is of sum shock that DARTH VADER has tendered is resignation.<br /><br />UNFORTUNATLY YOUR RESIGNATION IS NOT ACCEPTED BY THE BOARD.<br /><br />Pull up a chair and resume your rightful place colleague.<br /><br />I personally will not allow the seat to be filled and if anybody dares to take the seat there will be no more information or feedback from the WMI, TV+, Horizon PanGlobal camp etc.<br /><br />Get my drift....

mrgood stop joking, I would not take moderator place here not even for "brdo bombona".<br /><br />Satfreak, great posts.<br />Only chance here for moderators is to stick togheter and act as one. Untill they all get removed .....

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Satfreak:<br /><strong> Get my drift.... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Unfortunately , your only drift is to line your own pockets via TV+ Satfreak.That was obvious since day one.<br /><br />Ja , it would be hard to find a bigger moron than yourself. You bitch about Freedom of Speech , and then when Darth Vader says he will remove posts he doesnt like you AGREE with it ?<br /><br />And now Satfreak claims that he has a " licence to delete whatever he likes " and he is a company representative.<br /><br />This mess needs to be sorted out and some clear rules put in to place for everyone , not just thosae that wish to line their own pockets with their company propaganda.

THE ADMIN, <br />I think the way you handled the situation is a bit tough and totally WRONG!. I was expecting THE ADMIN or The Owner of this forum to send email/PM if there is any issue to be resolved rather than discussing the matter in public and killing the moderator's image infront of the members.<br /><br />Satfreak, <br />I agree that the forum needs good ppl to moderate as well as exchange the info/knowledge. I can understand what you feel and share the upsetting news. My friend, there is also me appointed as moderator last week and forgotten by you when you mentioned that the forum run by two of you!<br /><br />Darth Vader, <br />Please calm down and re-think what you need to do before its too late. It's not the way how a professional guy like you, handles the problem when there is a disagreement on a subject. I will request a review on the matter from THE ADMIN and corrections to be made afterwards...<br />Thanks...

I'm away and there is another shit fight, here I am and I was toasted for editing post,deleting post, and banning post, now after speaking to D Cottle I now do nothing of the three above.<br />So now we have others that have taken over my position for being a AXE man. So what is it boys we all do it my way or do I go back to the dark days where I delete what I want.<br />I think its time to have a vote via a poll on new moderators on the Both Pay Tv forum and only neutral people allowed to Moderate these forums.<br />I don't work for UBI Period Satfreak Works or is closely related to TV Plus and in my eyes its a conflick of interest to this group of forums.<br />Phil

I will stand down as Moderator Of the UBI forums and to be far so will Satfreak, and since Lazer bough up a good point via a PM I think only members say Under<br />Membership number 700 will be concidered, why they were here before UBI/and TV Plus were <br />What do you think! this is the best way to solve this problem

Ok Phil, I'll resign from the moderator duty to make it available for the old members. Thanks...

I agree with Phil on this one, No industry to Moderate the forums, Phil works for himself, you can clearly see that Satfreak has a relation with this TV plus company and he should not be allowed to moderate anything. Tell me Satfreak because a lot of us would like to know this, why are you so desperate to moderate this forum?

Foe me I don't want to do it, I have been on this site for years, either neutral moderators or have none at all for the Pay TV Forums.

Ok This forum was setup by David C in discussion with Me and others.<br /><br />I was asked to Mod it and be able to provide a fair alternative view to what Liski and other PRO UBI's were providing.<br /><br />You all forgot this was setup at the time when I was banned from the UBI forum, and this was supposed to be the alternative managed by the alternative.<br /><br />The list went quite for a few weeks cause of what happened on the UBI forum now things are starting to pickup.<br /><br />This is the TV+ and other Providers forum if you dont like it and want to go to another forum do so.<br /><br />If somebody wants my head come get it. I dont intend to resign as this forum has been built by me, vlad and a few small others.<br /><br />Again I hope Vlad re consideres his position. <br /><br />Oh and fsking no need for you to resign either. <br /><br />Further everybody can stop this waste of time discussion as It has nothing to do with the topic.<br /><br />Hence I am closing the topic.<br /><br />Rgs

Well I'm opening it for one minute again Satfreak!.<br />So do we do It? I'm prepared to remove myself from the UBI moderators if you are prepared to do the same in this forum, C'mon show that you have no ties, give me the word Satfreak and I will remove the both of us holding hands together.<br />Its your call Satfreak are you really so desperate to keep this Moderator Position set by you from D Cottle.