Hey,<br /><br />What channels would you like to see on UBI WORLD TV?<br /><br />> Arabic<br />> Turkish<br />> Balkan<br />> Latino<br />> Polish<br />> Greek<br />> English<br /> <br /> <small>[ 07. December 2004, 11:04 AM: Message edited by: Liski ]</small>

Balkan - BN, PinkPlus, PinkExtra, Nova, RTS, BKsat, OBN

channels i wants are<br /><br />GREEK<br /><br />Mega Cosmos<br />Ant1 Pacific<br />Alter Globe<br />Alpha International<br />Cyprus Sat<br /><br />Perhaps also one of the Super Sport Hellas channels or EuroSports Channel from NOVA in Greece ??<br /> <br /> <small>[ 05. December 2004, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: Lazer ]</small>

TURKISH<br /><br />LIG TV<br />STAR TV<br />ATV<br />SHOW TV<br />KANAL D<br />TGRT<br />NTV<br />Plus whatever possible...

Russian Service<br />CNAnnel 1<br />Inter Plus<br />Israer Plus<br />Ren TV<br />Moskow-Open World<br />Planeta<br /><br />AND Other in Eng.<br /> <br />CNN<br />Fashion...<br /><br /><br />Fashion

PORTUGUESE<br />==========<br /><br /><br />TVGLOBO (from Brazil) and<br />SIC (from Portugal)<br />as they use to have on TARBS .<br />I will be happy.<br /><br />Please .........

BALKAN:<br /><br />In addition we already have (BN TV, Pink+, BK TV) Balkan Package needs RTS (PTC), Pink EXTRA, PBS (BHT), CGTV, NovaTV, OBN...<br /><br />All of the above are covering Europe's skies 24/7.<br />(not sure about Nova & OBN)<br /> <br /> <small>[ 05. March 2005, 08:20 PM: Message edited by: YU4CFG ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by YU4CFG:<br /><strong> BALKAN:<br /><br />In addition we already have (BN TV, Pink+, BK TV) Balkan Package needs RTS (PTC), Pink EXTRA, PBS (BHT), CGTV, NovaTV, OBN...<br /><br />All of the above are covering Europe's skies 27/7. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">unfortunately days are only 24 hours in Australia. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Since you are collecting a wish list Liski,<br />can you also ask them to look after their past customers who forked out a years subscription in advance.

I'm getting grey hair over that one Zulu Chief. You might be owed around $800 could you imaging what $100,000 would feal like.<br />My list.<br />1/Maltese<br />2/Arabic<br />3/English

LEONARDOOOOO

My wish is that UBI employes some good programmers <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

TyCsports, telefe and any other from southamerica, that show soccer from there, and take away tvchile as it is the worst latin channel out there.

Arabic - Nile Sports (from Egypt)

Wish list for the Latino community...<br /><br />TV Colombia<br />Venevision<br />UNIVISION<br />Cuba vision<br />Mundovision<br />Telefe<br />TVE (already in UBI)<br />Televisa (Mexico)<br />TVchile (already in UBI- roy4shire dont forget they have to cater for ALL tastes and not individual ones!!!)<br />and...<br />Channel 12, 2, 4, and 6 from El salvador.....you wish!!!<br /> <br /> <small>[ 06. December 2004, 12:15 PM: Message edited by: megb68 ]</small>

Refunds of money owed to former Tarb's customers..

Wishfull thinking!

1. Irdeto 2<br />2. English package<br />Discovery<br />National Geographic<br />History<br />Tech TV<br />Animal Planet<br />Movie Network

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by scorpio:<br /><strong> 1. Irdeto 2<br />2. English package<br />Discovery<br />National Geographic<br />History<br />Tech TV<br />Animal Planet<br />Movie Network </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Now why do you want Irdeto 2 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> ????? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Simple m8.<br /><br />There's 1000's of Humaxes and other systems floating around doing nothing.<br />Let the customer have their own system and sell them a card.<br />More revenue for UBI, less expense for ppl, and less rip-off merchands around.<br /><br />If not Ir2, make it Via or anything else that ppl can buy standard CAM for.<br /><br />I'm not talking about card sharing which can be killed in it's infancy by lowering the price to eg. 39.95/mth. With that price, who will be bothered, except a few Sat nuts like us? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br />With MDS that is hacked to death and MUST BUY STB, it will be much less revenue over longer period of time. <br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />scorpio<br /><br />p.s. with off-market box, you'll be able to watch any FTA like Croatian, Turkish or Dutch channel too.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 06. December 2004, 09:00 PM: Message edited by: scorpio ]</small>

You can't use a mentor card on any other box period.<br />You have to be joking if UBI are going to spend MILLIONS just so you can use the old humax's that you cant use on foxtel/austar anymore.

Polish chanels:<br /><br />TV Polonia<br />Polsat<br /><br />and Piervyi Kanal

Yes Phil, you're %100 right about the friggen Humax boxes spread around like a fire bomb with all goodies but ended with a big drama when Foxtel replaced the encryption with Ird2. They're still good boxes for FTA and others (Optus / Aurara). Its just a bit sad/funny, how many people have lost heaps of money with Dish/LNB adjustments, additional installation of Dish/LNB + Switch, then re-allignment and so on..

Full package for $39.95. This is my Christmas wish as well.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by fsking:<br /><strong> Yes Phil, you're %100 right about the friggen Humax boxes spread around like a fire bomb with all goodies but ended with a big drama when Foxtel replaced the encryption with Ird2. They're still good boxes for FTA and others (Optus / Aurara). Its just a bit sad/funny, how many people have lost heaps of money with Dish/LNB adjustments, additional installation of Dish/LNB + Switch, then re-allignment and so on.. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">actually fox is NDS VideoGuard which can not be used in any after market box <br /><br />but with austar ( Irdeto 2 ) you can use your humax but they still supply u there box aswell but if you dont want to use it you can use urs but there goin to supply it to u anyway<br /> <br /> <small>[ 07. December 2004, 08:26 AM: Message edited by: Lazer ]</small>

Laser,<br />I was not around for the last 1.5 years due to the lond trips to overseas so all I remember, fox changed the system from ird1 to ird2 but obviously they used videoguard as well as ird2 but when did they changed to NDS that I do not know. Please correct me if I'm wrong...

Irdeto 2 for fox is for there old service all new installs fox do is NDS now they will phase out irdeto 2 as soon as everyone has been converted to the so called " Digital Service "

Thanks for the info, now I'm updated with a new version of foxie...

This thread was started to give people a chance to express their wishes regarding future UBI channels and has now gone a different path.

its not just this thread Liski nearly every thread the subject changes along the lines LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Liski:<br /><strong> This thread was started to give people a chance to express their wishes regarding future UBI channels and has now gone a different path. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes you're right Liski, this reminds me that I forgot my best wishes "VIZYON TV" hope to see soon after all the hard work done.

I wish for full transponders, not half.<br />I wish for less compression.<br />Dolby Stereo Surround sound would be a bonus too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br />I wish for clearer picture with crisper, clearer sound, which is not muffled or set so loud that it's distorted.<br />I also wish all the channels had the same sound level so that when I change from one channel to the next it doesn't <strong>blow my speakers up</strong> and scare me out of my wits! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" /> <br />Need i go on? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 07. December 2004, 12:41 PM: Message edited by: Vlad ]</small>

I wish for at least one more Spanish channel

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Vlad:<br /><strong> I wish for full transponders, not half.<br />I wish for less compression.<br />Dolby Stereo Surround sound would be a bonus too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br />I wish for clearer picture with crisper, clearer sound, which is not muffled or set so loud that it's distorted.<br />I also wish all the channels had the same sound level so that when I change from one channel to the next it doesn't <strong>blow my speakers up</strong> and scare me out of my wits! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" /> <br />Need i go on? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">yeh i get the same problem with some of the channels have to turn the volume down a fair bit cause of the distortion

Interesting???

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by P Debono:<br /><strong> You can't use a mentor card on any other box period.<br />You have to be joking if UBI are going to spend MILLIONS just so you can use the old humax's that you cant use on foxtel/austar anymore. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I know that MDS cards can be used only in MDS boxes.<br />On the other hand, can I please have more detailed explanation about MILLIONS?<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />scorpio

Just to buy the licence to use Irdeto will cost you Millions before you the Pay TV company even buy a box. And by the time you buy 30,000 Boxes + cards see how much that will cost you.

Hmmmm .... one thing at the time <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br />My info is (correct me if I'm wrong) that Licence for Irdeto2 is about $20.000/year plus $4 for each card once off. Figures taken from New Skies rep. and they are for the systems of 3-5000 subscribers.<br />What's your exact number? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/default/cool.gif" /> <br /><br />In regards to the boxes .... as far as I know, UBI declared themselves only as CONTENT PROVIDER, means they have NOTHING to do with customers hardware. Correct?<br />On top of that it will be up to the customer either to organize hardware themselves or to ask UBI to call outsourced company to do so.<br /><br />BTW, MDS cost too, maybe TOO MUCH compared to Ir2 because you have to buy the MDS card and MDS BOX, and you can only watch their service and nothing else. And, of course, you have to buy 1000's of boxes up front from only one supplier - Mentor.<br /> Have any figures on that? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/default/cool.gif" /> <br /><br />On the other hand, as I wrote before, 1000's of Humaxes and others are already around, and the only thing those ppl need is either only card or somebody to re-align the dish and the card.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />scorpio<br /> <br /> <small>[ 07. December 2004, 10:46 PM: Message edited by: scorpio ]</small>

Heya! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />I maybe got the answer why is UBI still using MDS.<br />Friend of mine who is doing some work on behalf of one of their contractors - repositioning the dishes, replacing faulty boxes and installing a new one told me that almost 50% of boxes that he's installing have TARBS sign on them.<br />That means that Mike boy & Co stil have a few thousands of boxes that they have to get rid of, which means that they don't have to invest in naw boxes.<br />We'll see what will happend when they run out of old stock.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />scorpio

Those TARBS boxes that are getting installed do not belong to UBI they belong to the sub-contractors and they are selling them to the subscriber. UBI do not sell boxes at this point in time.

Scorpio...<br /><br />The pricing that the new skies pleb quoted you is not correct.. What Phil is saying is closer to the truth,,<br /><br />Oh there is 2 sets of fees per customer 1 for the Smart Card and 1 for the Ir Soft Cell Software inside the settop box...<br /><br />Get some change out of $350k up front and you may be real lucky..

FYI if you need some MDS boxes I do know that Mike and co do have some on the ship in transit,,,,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Satfreak:<br /><strong> Scorpio...<br /><br />The pricing that the new skies pleb quoted you is not correct.. What Phil is saying is closer to the truth,,<br /><br />Oh there is 2 sets of fees per customer 1 for the Smart Card and 1 for the Ir Soft Cell Software inside the settop box...<br /><br />Get some change out of $350k up front and you may be real lucky.. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Have any concrete figures? I don't like guessing.<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br />BTW, is the customer paying for Soft Cell when he buys the box, and therefore IRDs with embeded CAMs are more expensive?<br /> <br /> <small>[ 12. December 2004, 08:32 AM: Message edited by: scorpio ]</small>

If you wish to own and run your own conditional access you can bank on the following with very basic features<br /><br />$380k - $450k upfront<br />$18 per card<br />$19 for softcell (settop box software licence)<br /><br />Then about $50k per year there after in ongoing support / management fees.<br /><br />If you want any additional feeatures like "Card Marrage, Pairing" +50K upfront.<br /><br /><br />ALL PRICING IN USD>>>><br /><br />FOXTEL/OPTUS/AUSTAR/AUORA all have Ir Softcell embeded into IRD's<br /><br />This is the cheapest platfrom when you have 50,000 - 100,000 + customers you can pay anything from 1,mil and upnwards<br /> <br /> <small>[ 12. December 2004, 09:11 AM: Message edited by: Satfreak ]</small>

Ok. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />Now we getting somewhere ...<br /><br />Do you have any Web links for those above?<br /><br />Correct me if I'm wrong, is the Softcell part of the receiver with embeded CAM?<br />When somebody buy eg Humax IR Ace, do they pay at the same time Softcell licence (included as the part of the STB price) ?

All included by the manufacturer to the box price if the box has embedded CAM. If there is only PCMCIA slot for the CAM then you pay it included to the CAM price without knowing there is a portion of it.

Like I said going to Irdeto 2 would be good but I think UBI hasn't got the spare cash to do so at the moment. And most important irdeto 2 is not safe and every day more and more are getting broadband/ADSL and it has a liking to Irdeto 2 and others encryptions except for NDS and Mentor if you know what I mean.

By the way while UBI as has ship full of Mentors coming to Australia and on that same ship is the New Dreamboxes 7020 and 7080 with duel tuners and DVD burners built in. I love it!!!!

I would like to see ALL WMI channels on UBI <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

That will never happen.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> By the way while UBI as has ship full of Mentors coming to Australia and on that same ship is the New Dreamboxes 7020 and 7080 with duel tuners and DVD burners built in. I love it!!!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Austech info forum will have a Mass sale of the new model Dreambox's coming soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> No doubt about it they are the best on this planet, no other box can match them <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Yep i'll drink to that.!

Yep great units especially with the new MDS software plugin <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> oops...!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> By the way while UBI as has ship full of Mentors coming to Australia and on that same ship is the New Dreamboxes 7020 and 7080 with duel tuners and DVD burners built in. I love it!!!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">let me guess phill how much is the dream box..1000, 1500??? yes i d love one of those too BUT.........

dan04 just like to ask you a question do you work for ubi or do you have any interest in any way in ubi

I doubt he works for UBI or any other TV broadcaster whome

no I dont work for UBI

told ya whome

If we get this one"BHT1 (balkan-bosnia)there will be at least another couple of thousand subscribers.

true I agree on that one...I think croatians at least have HTV but muslims dont have a channel at all..I recken they (UBI/TV+) could pick up sum subscribers just by having that channel

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by rex68:<br /><strong> If we get this one"BHT1 (balkan-bosnia)there will be at least another couple of thousand subscribers. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'd prefer OBN (Bosnian TV) over BHT but more channels will definately bring more subscribers...

Polish channels<br />- TV Polonia<br />- PolSat<br />- TVN<br /><br />What about radio channels...<br />- PR 3<br />- RMF FM<br />- Color<br /><br />Do we know if they are going to have some radio channels.<br /><br />Also some English channels - Movie Network, MTV, etc....<br /><br />Boggie

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'd prefer OBN (Bosnian TV) over BHT but more channels will definately bring more subscribers... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No mate,we have enough of music and similar stuff we need more sport(soccer 2006 qualifayers,and other sports wich are almost everyday on BHT1)<br />PINK,BN,BK are usualy music and related stuff..

i would like an Italian Package, especially Rai International & Telepace ( Italian Catholic Channel ) both formerly on Tarbs. Maltese Channel would be great too. Also English Channels - News & Sport would be good. My mother paid 12 months ahead for Tarbs but only got 2 months out of it.<br />i had Tarbs for more than a 1 1/2 years, for my wife who is Filipino. We now subscribe to the Filipino Mux on Pas 8, $33 a month through abs-cbn.com, the number 1 channel in the Philippines, remixed as TFC - The Filipino Channel. Other Filipino Channels there are ANC ( News ), CinemaOne ( Movies ) and Pinoy Central ( Mixture of things ). i am a new member to this forum. i have enjoyed reading most of the posts in the last couple of days. Wonder what Filipino channels UBI are going to get? Probably GMA (this channel runs lengths 2nd in the Philippines)

i would really like to see StarTV added to the Turkish package!!!<br />and also Dubai Sports because it is also a soccer heaven<br />(even though i wouldnt understand arabic)

dubai sports is FTA on asiasat 2 but u need a big dish for it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <br /><br />http://www.lyngsat.com/asia2.html

Hey guys, what about Italian channels?? any news about them coming soon??

Cuckoo33,<br /><br />At the moment there is no word about Italian Package.

I would like to add one more channel to Turkish wish list.<br />CiNE5

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by gerard:<br /><strong> i would like an Italian Package, especially Rai International & Telepace ( Italian Catholic Channel ) both formerly on Tarbs. Maltese Channel would be great too. Also English Channels - News & Sport would be good. My mother paid 12 months ahead for Tarbs but only got 2 months out of it.<br />i had Tarbs for more than a 1 1/2 years, for my wife who is Filipino. We now subscribe to the Filipino Mux on Pas 8, $33 a month through abs-cbn.com, the number 1 channel in the Philippines, remixed as TFC - The Filipino Channel. Other Filipino Channels there are ANC ( News ), CinemaOne ( Movies ) and Pinoy Central ( Mixture of things ). i am a new member to this forum. i have enjoyed reading most of the posts in the last couple of days. Wonder what Filipino channels UBI are going to get? Probably GMA (this channel runs lengths 2nd in the Philippines) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Ask ubi for some free time because you lost big time at TARBS <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Liski:<br /><strong> Cuckoo33,<br /><br />At the moment there is no word about Italian Package. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Liski, <br /><br />Looks like you know a lot about UBI internals.<br />When is the latino package comming ?<br />Which channels?<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

joe_br,<br /><br />It's been reported so many times what the Latino Package will be.

any news about greek channels?

olympiakos2002 call WMI they are exclusive distributer of Antenna and will be introducing new Greek Channels towards the end of Jan,..<br /><br /><br />Regards

Liski, I've heard that UBI is going to bring some more Turkish channels like TGRT & STAR-TV soon. Is it true?...