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#14475
Wed 09 Feb 2005 07:57:AM
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Mission Specialist Level 2
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Liski<br /><br />Can you please advise us when the pink channels will be back on the air AND what is the cause of both channels going of the air at the same time????
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#14476
Wed 09 Feb 2005 02:14:PM
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Astronaut Level 2
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When everything runs smoothly, this forum is very quiet. UBI takes some channels of the air just to wake up people..... and there we go.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />Betcha that ja is coming soon, too....... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
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#14477
Wed 09 Feb 2005 02:59:PM
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Mission Pilot Level 3
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Pink Plus and Pink Extra will be coming back soon. It is a technical problem.
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#14478
Wed 09 Feb 2005 03:13:PM
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Payload Specialist Level 1
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Satfeak, If you know something, tell us man..Are tose channels currently running on TV+ or not!...
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#14479
Wed 09 Feb 2005 03:13:PM
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Satfeak, If you know something, tell us man..Are those channels currently running on TV+ or not!...
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#14480
Wed 09 Feb 2005 03:20:PM
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Mission Commander
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everytime pink or any other balkan channels go off UBI satfreak pops up and says or asked y nuthin new happens everytime when the pink channels are down satfreak comes out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />
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#14481
Wed 09 Feb 2005 03:26:PM
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Mission Pilot Level 3
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UBI and TV Plus use different feeds for Pink Plus. UBI is a direct feed from Europe and is having technical problems.
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#14482
Wed 09 Feb 2005 03:30:PM
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Assistant Launch Director
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See Satfreak is the Minister of DOOM and GlOOM, when <br />Pink and co go off the air at UBI its party time every time.
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#14483
Wed 09 Feb 2005 03:33:PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> See Satfreak is the Minister of DOOM and GlOOM, when <br />Pink and co go off the air at UBI its party time every time. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">hahahaha " Minister of DOOM and GlOOM " good one LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
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#14484
Wed 09 Feb 2005 04:37:PM
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I guess Satfreak just sits there watching the UBI feeds and if he sees any little problem to make TV Plus look good he just runs and posts on the forum. Maybe he should spend more time watching the TV Plus feed and try and fix the quality.
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#14485
Wed 09 Feb 2005 05:50:PM
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Payload Specialist Level 1
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Hehehehee,<br /><br />How many eyes / spies does he employed? I bet he/she is watching whats been posted here now! <br /><br />Liski, I know UBI use different feeds as compared to the both quality, it was just to check him up if anymore news coming up...
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#14486
Wed 09 Feb 2005 06:17:PM
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Mission Specialist Level 2
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Hello all<br /><br />I was just asking as a "viewer" of PINK Extra when its comming back. Also since BOTH the PINK channels are encrypted and you bring BK on the same fibre from Europe and BK is still on the air I was wondering what could be the problem...
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#14487
Wed 09 Feb 2005 06:59:PM
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Posts: 377
Payload Specialist Level 1
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Oh you're a keen UBI viewer. Is the quality on Pas8 unbearable to watch.<br /><br />You're always wanting to bag UBI in the form of being a viewer or a TV+ supporter. It must be difficult wearing 2 hats huh... <br /><br />You want it shut down on UBI yet enjoying the pleasures of Pink Extra..<br /><br />Post something that the readers know that TV+ is a genuine competitor and not stoop low to derogratory comments. Shape up or shift out I say.
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#14488
Wed 09 Feb 2005 07:25:PM
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Again<br /><br />If you read my original post,,, I just asked<br /><br />"when the channels would be back on & what was the reason for them going of the air..."<br /><br />And Liski gave me the answer..."technical issues"<br /><br />SO What did I do wrong??<br /><br />Liski - When will it be back on?? When you say soon do you have an idea of the time frames eg 1hr, or tonight, tommrow etc<br /><br />Rgs
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#14489
Wed 09 Feb 2005 07:26:PM
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Astronaut Level 2
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Satfreak is the first person to notice, obviously your addicted to UBI and can't live without it!!
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#14490
Wed 09 Feb 2005 07:57:PM
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I not addicted to UBI, I am addicted to Balkan Channels...
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#14491
Thu 10 Feb 2005 08:22:AM
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Satfreak in sheeps clothing with innocent questions..playing dumb. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />
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#14492
Thu 10 Feb 2005 08:38:AM
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Payload Specialist Level 1
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Satfreak, you should be addicted to TV+ more than anything...Its you company and your future...
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#14493
Wed 09 Feb 2005 10:29:PM
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Posts: 517
Payload Specialist Level 1
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Maybe they could replace them with Court tv... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
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#14494
Thu 10 Feb 2005 02:43:AM
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Posts: 4,142
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Bedouin:<br /><strong> Satfreak is the first person to notice, obviously your addicted to UBI and can't live without it!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think I might have to send him a Application form out to join UBI <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
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#14495
Thu 10 Feb 2005 03:27:AM
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I for one want UBI to keep the Balkan channels. If we don't have competition we have dictatorship.
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#14496
Thu 10 Feb 2005 04:25:AM
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Looks like I lost my bet. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/default/blush.gif" /> , ja is still undercover......... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />
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#14497
Thu 10 Feb 2005 05:33:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Liski:<br /><strong> Pink Plus and Pink Extra will be coming back soon. It is a technical problem. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">what would we do without LISKI.....<br /><br /><br /> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/night_flight82/Animation4.gif" alt=" - " />
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#14498
Thu 10 Feb 2005 08:31:AM
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Space Trainee
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Space Trainee
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FFS, MKTV Sat not working too i cant watch the soccer. Why does UBI always do this even before the last game against Czech Republic they had the same screen saying technical difficulties. WTF is TV + do they have the maco channel?
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#14499
Thu 10 Feb 2005 08:58:AM
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Space Trainee
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Space Trainee
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How predictable its back just before half time just like last time!
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#14500
Thu 10 Feb 2005 05:30:PM
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Space Cadet
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Space Cadet
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They said they have difficult, what can you do just wait, UBI doing they best, it is in UBI's interest to remove difficulty soonest they can.
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#14501
Thu 10 Feb 2005 07:01:PM
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Posts: 495
Payload Specialist Level 1
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No more technical difficulties... <br />Liski, please, turn the switch on and let the ppl enjoy...So, others can go deep again...
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#14502
Fri 11 Feb 2005 02:48:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by fsking:<br /><strong> No more technical difficulties... <br />Liski, please, turn the switch on and let the ppl enjoy...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><br /> <br /> <small>[ 10. February 2005, 06:48 PM: Message edited by: Satfreak ]</small>
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#14503
Fri 11 Feb 2005 04:34:AM
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I think this time the switch has melted..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/default/blush.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" />
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#14504
Fri 11 Feb 2005 04:59:AM
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Posts: 517
Payload Specialist Level 1
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MKTVSAT was one that sent UBI a cease and desist letter.<br /><br />Hmm
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#14505
Fri 11 Feb 2005 06:36:AM
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Posts: 255
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ohh to bad...<br /><br />can somebody buy a new switch for them...<br /><br />we are waiting,,,,
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#14506
Fri 11 Feb 2005 06:53:AM
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Space Trainee
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Space Trainee
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Whats a cease and desist letter?
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#14507
Fri 11 Feb 2005 03:51:PM
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Posts: 150
Mission Specialist Level 1
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Is it time to go back to PAS8? I need an answer by Monday.
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#14508
Fri 11 Feb 2005 06:24:PM
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Everybody needs answers. Sounds like an ultimatum...
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#14509
Sat 12 Feb 2005 08:40:AM
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Nick, <br />What happens if the channels come back after you repoint your Dish to Pas-8 and got the contact from TV+....Any idea....
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#14510
Sat 12 Feb 2005 08:56:AM
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Mission Specialist Level 2
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even if the channels come back I "suspect" the will be off a day or two later...
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#14511
Fri 11 Feb 2005 09:25:PM
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Mission Specialist Level 2
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Satfreak:<br /><strong> even if the channels come back I "suspect" the will be off a day or two later... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Thats what you have said every time they have gone off , why should this time be any different ?
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#14512
Sat 12 Feb 2005 02:53:AM
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Satfreak loves this!<br />Like I said before and I will say it again TV plus needs UBI's Balkans channels out of the way to survive. For me I want both companies to have the channels but does Satfreak agree with me, I bet not.
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#14513
Sun 13 Feb 2005 12:06:AM
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I cannot believe what's just transpired.<br />So that's it? The fight is over and no one has anything to say?<br />Boys and girls, let me remind you that if there is only one provider left, there will be a monopoly over the European content (so far the Balkan content). Couple that with a small company that has not had too much experience and you'll find that:<br /><br />a) You will be stuck with an inferior service (as is seen currently with the poor audio/video quality of the broadcast). Even after complaining for months now, no one has done anything about the quality!!! Must be that the owners think we have no option and will put up with shit quality! So arrogant that the messages are scrolling through the centre of the screen, non stop! Well they are right, we don’t! We gave up the right to have an option the moment we allowed TV+ to eradicate all competition!<br /><br />b) The value for the money will be poor (3 channels for $70 and will rise, I assure you to $100 in a couple of months into the running of the company. Make no mistake, you’ll be paying $100 per month for 3 channels!!! This is the reason they want competition out of the game with their <strong>“exclusive deals”</strong> with overseas providers (in this case Pink, BK and BN)! Oh, and you can forget about additional channels coming on any time soon. They need to build up cash. The problem is even when they do build up the needed cash, the idea will be to delay the extra channels for as long as no one complains (as it seems that we, down under, don’t seem to have “a voice”)!<br /><br />c) The turnaround time is extremely long and there seems to be no improvement in the near future!. The priority seems to be liaising with providers, locking them into “exclusive” contracts and coding the content so that they can monopolise the market here down under. Customer focus, you ask?...There is no customer focus! I am also curious to find out how big TV+ is but I doubt it could service us Balkans alone, let alone other regions.<br /><br /><strong>Food for thought, boys and girls!!!</strong>
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#14514
Sun 13 Feb 2005 01:24:AM
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“What could I do?”, I hear you ask…<br />Plenty!<br /><br />Start by sending an email to Pink, BK, BN with your concerns! Then you could send one to TV+ to show them that you cannot be “taken for a ride”! Send a copy to UBI too, to voice your support!<br /><br />There are many things you can do, the worst of which is to stand by and spectate!!! <br />Vlad...
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#14515
Sun 13 Feb 2005 01:32:AM
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Darth Vader <br />I'm with you 100%, Tv Plus cannot afford competition, they must get rid of UBI any way they can. Yes you will be paying around 100 bucks a month<br />with a few extra channels. all I can say is the fight is not over and if UBI never get to get them back well sorry Balkans people You're about to get screwed big time regarding what the quality is.
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#14516
Sun 13 Feb 2005 01:42:AM
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No the fight isn't over, you can be sure of that!
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#14517
Sun 13 Feb 2005 02:37:AM
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pink plus and pink extra gone from optus b3 <br /><br /> http://www.lyngsat.com/headlines.html
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#14518
Sun 13 Feb 2005 02:39:AM
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First tv chile now Pink plus and pink extra which other channels will UBI loose
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#14519
Sun 13 Feb 2005 02:50:AM
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Uruguay, They have been off air on Optus B3 since mid week.<br /><br />Pink Plus and Pink Extra will return shortly.
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#14520
Sun 13 Feb 2005 02:51:AM
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Assistant Launch Director
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I think by next week we will find out whats going on.
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#14521
Sun 13 Feb 2005 02:54:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Uruguay:<br /><strong> pink plus and pink extra gone from optus b3 <br /><br /> http://www.lyngsat.com/headlines.html </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Lyngsat isen't anything offcial he just reports wat ppl send him in <br /><br />and as liski said its been off since mid last week<br /> <br /> <small>[ 12. February 2005, 07:58 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>
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#14522
Sun 13 Feb 2005 06:19:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Liski:<br /><strong> No the fight isn't over, you can be sure of that! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Liski,<br /><br />Could you PM me with some...any info on the status?<br /><br />Vlad...
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#14523
Sun 13 Feb 2005 08:25:AM
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Darth<br /><br />Thankyou for the constructive feedback.<br /><br />Firstly TV+ will not be increasing the pricing as the target market will not/cannot afford to pay higher pricing.<br /><br />Secondly TV+ will be commencing transmission of other channels and addressing quality issues once other factors have been dealt with.<br /><br />Rgs
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#14524
Sun 13 Feb 2005 04:13:PM
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Rubbish!! the quality issues must be addressed NOW!<br />because read this forum and others thats all you can read about tvplus the quality problems of their channels.
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#14525
Tue 15 Feb 2005 05:32:PM
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Ummm...Liski,<br /><br />What do I tell folk, man? Give us some feedback. Keep the anxiety down!<br /><br />Vlad…
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#14526
Tue 15 Feb 2005 05:39:PM
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#14527
Tue 15 Feb 2005 05:50:PM
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Daaah!<br />When, Liski, when? Give us an ETA! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />
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#14528
Tue 15 Feb 2005 05:59:PM
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I can not give a date but I've been advised that it's coming back.
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#14529
Tue 15 Feb 2005 09:35:PM
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Mission Specialist Level 2
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People are already enquiring about changing sat dish from B3 to PAS8....not good for UBI
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#14530
Tue 15 Feb 2005 11:08:PM
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megb68, You can't really stop people from realigning their dish. The best thing to do is just wait and they will be back shortly.<br /><br />They have 2 choices:<br /><br />> Realign to PAS8 for 3 channels<br />> Stay on Optus B3 for 4 channels with Pink Plus/Extra coming back shorly plus more balkan channels<br /> <br /> <small>[ 15. February 2005, 03:33 PM: Message edited by: Liski ]</small>
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#14531
Wed 16 Feb 2005 03:06:AM
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Payload Specialist Level 1
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Or have 2 dishes.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
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#14532
Tue 22 Feb 2005 03:42:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Liski:<br /><strong>...They have 2 choices:<br /><br />> Realign to PAS8 for 3 channels<br />> Stay on Optus B3 for 4 channels with Pink Plus/Extra coming back shorly plus more balkan channels </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">They have no choice any more...<br />Since this morning, PINK TV disappered from Tv+ as well..
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#14533
Tue 22 Feb 2005 05:00:AM
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Yes it became encrypted.<br /><br />Try pointing any old TARBS box to PAS8 now that worked a few days ago..<br /><br />It no longer works either "encryption"<br /><br />The customers have a choice if they wish to watch PINK, BK & BN signup to TV+ if they wish to watch Planeta sign with UBI...<br /><br />Rgs
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#14534
Tue 22 Feb 2005 05:04:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Satfreak:<br /><strong> <br />The customers have a choice if they wish to watch PINK, BK & BN signup to TV+ if they wish to watch Planeta sign with UBI...<br /><br />Rgs </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />
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#14535
Tue 22 Feb 2005 03:51:PM
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Liski nasiot,<br /><br />Do koga treba da cekam za ovoj Pink? Znaes li ti deka doma site gledame vo crn ekran i cekame?<br />So sto ke se pofalis, momce? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad...
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#14536
Tue 22 Feb 2005 04:46:PM
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Pm me the English conversion please!
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#14537
Tue 22 Feb 2005 05:01:PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Darth Vader:<br /><strong> Liski nasiot,<br /><br />Do koga treba da cekam za ovoj Pink? Znaes li ti deka doma site gledame vo crn ekran i cekame?<br />So sto ke se pofalis, momce? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Translation... (Maco to English by Vlad®)<br /><br />Liski my man,<br /><br />How long do i need to wait for this Pink? Do you know that, at home, everyone is just staring at a black screen?<br />Is there anything you can boost about, laddie?<br /><br />Vlad...<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 22. February 2005, 09:05 AM: Message edited by: Darth Vader ]</small>
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#14538
Tue 22 Feb 2005 05:04:PM
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Oh and BTW Phil. You should start speaking Serbian so the whole world can understand you. Serbian, the language of the future! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad...
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#14539
Tue 22 Feb 2005 05:39:PM
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"(Maco to English by Vlad®)"<br />"You should start speaking Serbian..."<br /><br />so is that macedonian or serbian? or they are both same?
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#14540
Tue 22 Feb 2005 05:43:PM
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I speak both, just in case! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" />
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#14541
Tue 22 Feb 2005 05:47:PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ShaRp:<br /><strong> "(Maco to English by Vlad®)"<br />"You should start speaking Serbian..."<br /><br />so is that macedonian or serbian? or they are both same? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">MACEDONIAN: Gergana e ubava (Гергана е убава)<br />SERBIAN: Gergana je lepa (Гергана је лепа)<br />ENGLISH: Gergana is a beauty (Гергана ис а бјути)<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /> <img src="http://members.dodo.net.au/~brcko/Gergana00.jpg" alt=" - " /><br />ГЕРГАНА - GERGANA<br /> <br /> <small>[ 22. February 2005, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: YU4CFG ]</small>
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#14542
Tue 22 Feb 2005 06:41:PM
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That she is...in anyones language! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />
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#14543
Tue 22 Feb 2005 06:46:PM
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Soon man.. Chill out.. How do you think I feel as a Extra fan?
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#14544
Tue 22 Feb 2005 06:52:PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Liski:<br /><strong> Soon man.. Chill out.. How do you think I feel as a Extra fan? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">How can we "Chill Out" without Pink <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />
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#14545
Tue 22 Feb 2005 07:17:PM
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Watch Planeta for now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
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#14546
Tue 22 Feb 2005 07:22:PM
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Hehehehe.. He has a point, Mick.<br />I doubt it'd be healthy repeating the same sentence to the Mrs. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br /><br />Vlad
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#14547
Wed 23 Feb 2005 12:58:AM
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Assistant Launch Director
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OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!! Nice. But at my age a car looks better
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#14548
Wed 23 Feb 2005 03:38:PM
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Space Cadet
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pink is nothing but a cheap cheeezzzzzzyyyyyyy strip channel. i could sing better than 1/2 of those pink "artists"
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#14549
Wed 23 Feb 2005 03:41:PM
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Aaaaaah, but do you have better legs?! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad...
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#14550
Wed 23 Feb 2005 04:11:PM
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Heheheheeee,<br />Vlad,<br />Do you think, dijabola is female? What if NOT! Would you still wanna see them... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
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#14551
Wed 23 Feb 2005 04:19:PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by dijabola:<br /><strong> pink is nothing but a cheap cheeezzzzzzyyyyyyy strip channel. i could sing better than 1/2 of those pink "artists" </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Now I know why you guys want it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> and the reason why you liked it on UBI because of the superior Video quality <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> you all sit in front of the TV preferably a large one and stroke your lizard <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
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#14552
Wed 23 Feb 2005 04:34:PM
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I reckon Planeta is much better than Pink...What do you think guys?... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
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#14553
Wed 23 Feb 2005 04:44:PM
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Space Cadet
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i doubt he would wanna see my legs. unless he likes hairy roberto carlos type legs. and a dick 4 that matter. i just have a dislike 4 pink as im not into that "turboFolk" music crap and gennerally 90% of their programm is crap. only good thing is the morning tv and sometimes they show sports. but since i havent seen any of it since tarbs went under i dont know if thats on any more. and if u wanna see chicks get a porn channel or something. <br />pink only has a big following here cos of the older population and those spanish soaps. i just want to watch sport, something other than this cricket and footy crap that on FTA<br /> <br /> <small>[ 23. February 2005, 08:45 AM: Message edited by: dijabola ]</small>
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#14554
Wed 23 Feb 2005 05:31:PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Darth Vader:<br /><strong> Hehehehe.. He has a point, Mick.<br />I doubt it'd be healthy repeating the same sentence to the Mrs. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br /><br />Vlad </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Planeta is cool... Girls are singing soo good that I need no sound to enjoy (a clear picture is all I need) but we need Pink too. Not only they speak Serbian but I really missing some shows (Pile & Maca Show, Zamka, Jutarnji program...)
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#14555
Wed 23 Feb 2005 05:34:PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!! Nice. But at my age a car looks better </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Imagine how that nice car would look with a girl sittin' on the bonnet... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />
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#14556
Wed 23 Feb 2005 05:56:PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by fsking:<br /><strong> I reckon Planeta is much better than Pink...What do you think guys?... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Now I understand why UBI brought Planeta over, they knew they'd lose Pink and would need a replacement channel for it that would closely resemble it. Planeta is probably as close as you can get to Pink but that's what we're told about various sex alternatives until we experience it for real. Nothing beats the real sex.
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#14557
Tue 01 Mar 2005 08:10:AM
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Liski or anyone there at the UBI camp,<br /><br />Sorry to bother you guys, but, ummm....any news there? Seems to be very quiet over there.<br /><br />Could someone give us a ETA on these channels comming back (if they are in fact comming back at all)?<br /><br /><br />Vlad...
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#14558
Tue 01 Mar 2005 08:24:AM
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It's in the process of coming back. There is no ETA but the problem is being working out with Pink.
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#14559
Tue 01 Mar 2005 12:33:AM
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Liski doesn't want to say to much because we all know who is reporting to TV plus.
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#14560
Tue 01 Mar 2005 02:27:AM
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Space Cadet
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Fsking <br />Planeta is not even close good as Pink is<br />Planeta TV is just piss of s#*t,<br />broadcasting music 24/7 like Planeta do is not hard, we can have plenty of music over internet, what we want is movies, show Pile and Maca, Sav taj Pink, Zamka etc..
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#14561
Tue 01 Mar 2005 02:55:AM
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Sut Hunter<br />I cannot believe we have 2 Serbian Sat companies in Brisbane, to much of a coincidence.
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#14562
Tue 01 Mar 2005 03:21:AM
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Space Cadet
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I'm not Serbian this company owner is Bosnian, but I'm not sure is it any Serbian doing sat in Brisbane, anyway I have many Serbian customers. You know me Phil, anyway I know you ph NO.
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#14563
Tue 01 Mar 2005 03:35:AM
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well ring me and we will talk
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#14564
Tue 01 Mar 2005 03:37:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Sat Hunter:<br /><strong> I'm not Serbian this company owner is Bosnian, but I'm not sure is it any Serbian doing sat in Brisbane, anyway I have many Serbian customers. You know me Phil, anyway I know you ph NO. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Like i said Serbian + Bosnian + Dreambox = Satfreaks worst nightmare <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
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#14565
Tue 01 Mar 2005 03:47:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Sat Hunter:<br /><strong> I'm not Serbian this company owner is Bosnian, but I'm not sure is it any Serbian doing sat in Brisbane, anyway I have many Serbian customers. You know me Phil, anyway I know you ph NO. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Like i said Serbian + Bosnian + Dreambox = Satfreaks worst nightmare <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I like this one <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />So Dreambox ..... hmmmmm <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
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#14566
Wed 02 Mar 2005 01:05:AM
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Haaaa! I have been told one particuliar outlet today sold (LARGE AMOUNT) of Dreamboxes They're selling like hot cakes.
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#14567
Wed 02 Mar 2005 10:29:PM
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Space Cadet
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No one is interesting anymore in dreambox, trust me.There is cheapest one on market which will do same job.<br />Don't trow away money
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#14568
Wed 02 Mar 2005 10:35:PM
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Space Cadet
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Bosnian+Dreambox+pink+joysat+?= question for my friend Phil <br />sort out if you can who is, lets have some fun
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#14569
Wed 02 Mar 2005 10:42:PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Sat Hunter:<br /><strong> No one is interesting anymore in dreambox, trust me.There is cheapest one on market which will do same job.<br />Don't trow away money </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Are you joking or are you from the stone age <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />
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#14570
Wed 02 Mar 2005 10:44:PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Sat Hunter:<br /><strong> No one is interesting anymore in dreambox, trust me.There is cheapest one on market which will do same job.<br />Don't trow away money </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Can it do all of this in that list <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 02. March 2005, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: jaremt ]</small>
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#14571
Wed 02 Mar 2005 10:48:PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Sat Hunter:<br /><strong> Bosnian+Dreambox+pink+joysat+?= question for my friend Phil <br />sort out if you can who is, lets have some fun </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I doubt if your one of Phils friends.
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#14572
Wed 02 Mar 2005 10:49:PM
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I'm from 1666, and where are you from mr Technician EX TECH TEACHER.Very funny ex tech what are you now if you in past ex tech??<br />maybe ex something, I heard everything but never something like this.
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#14573
Wed 02 Mar 2005 10:50:PM
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There are a couple of cheap shit imitations around , none of which have the support of major aftermarket software developers. Dreambox development is constant and it is the leader in linux based receivers.<br /><br />You get what you pay for.
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#14574
Wed 02 Mar 2005 10:53:PM
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What you pay is what you get.
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#14575
Thu 03 Mar 2005 02:12:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by jaremt:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Sat Hunter:<br /><strong> Bosnian+Dreambox+pink+joysat+?= question for my friend Phil <br />sort out if you can who is, lets have some fun </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I doubt if your one of Phils friends. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No not my friend, I have never meet him <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br />the amount of true friends i have you can count on one hand <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
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#14576
Thu 03 Mar 2005 02:27:AM
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The other hand holds another friend <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
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#14577
Thu 03 Mar 2005 02:30:AM
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Yes my old fella! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
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#14578
Fri 04 Mar 2005 04:15:PM
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I have non friends is well, cant find good one all use me.<br />Last time I have friend is back in Bosnia before war.That was friend Dragan Sucur iz BL
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