I think this thread has gone on long enough and I will close it after this. As explained to the people from Oznetics, I was never after the money in the first place. We tried advertising on the forum and it failed, its as simple as that. As for anyone owing me money, or Dave Cottle any money, I don't want it, nor does Dave Cottle. As for sending me a free box, like was promised, that should have been sent a month ago. The gift comes from the heart, not the wallet. As member ew_289 said, I probably would have let them advertise on the forum for nothing anyhow. I might be strange but I have certain values. I teach my kids if they give me a finger, I will give you my arm. But the problems these days is people don't want to give you there finger nail and for the finger forget that.