</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SatManiac:<br /><strong> well guys, I agree about your answers but, but, what about MDS cracked too isn't.<br />modification on boxes,switches,etc.<br />in that case UBI will survive?<br />thanks guys for your time in response.<br />Cheers </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The difference is UBI/TARBS boxes are in short supply, see after TARBS demise the Idiot Pirates in Melbourne got the shi.ts and dumped all there boxes to remove evidence as people that paid wanted there money back. So its harder to steal UBI as its harder to get their boxes and UBI encrypted can only be used on a UBI box.<br />BUT!! IRDETO 2 Austar/TV Plus/WMI and anything thats Irdeto2 is being cardshared and the talk around on forums that are not visible to the general public and there are a few of them tv plus is the go by the same mob in Melbourne that was screwing TARBS. Now not even Foxtels NDS is safe thanks to GBOX and the Dreambox, I bet Foxtel got a copy of it and tested it and they got it going and withing minutes their lawyers sent emails to all the pirate forums to remove it or else. TO LATE!. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />