Come to think of it this mob in Melbourne a ???????? <br />bunch of smarties are cardsharing the works on pas 8, you name it they have it for a price. I had to repair a dish and one of these people had Foxtel + all of TV plus channels and for a couple of bucks more you can even get the rest of the channels you don't even want like the Ruskie channels or even Select TV stuff. But I think this sort of behaviour is very limited as you have to be up the IQ range to understand this stuff and its got me stuffed..