Well I think phil since this is YOUR forum, you should be clear for why you have this forum and what your interests are(not talking hobbies here).<br /><br />In this way we can see if any conflicts of interest lie.<br /><br />And this is where i become uneasy when reading your posts, dont know which hat you are wearing.<br /><br />As for where the receivers come from you should ask mr apsattv.Apart from the odd one i see for sale on ebay and here, I havent got a clue what apsattv is on about.But then again he works in mysterious ways as you do.<br /><br />One day this poker game will finish and you will all show us what cards you are holding....<br /><br />mixo