yer dave there are two disks around <br />one is a remake of a laser disk (i have boteh )called Video Essentianls <br />the other is Called Platinum DVD <br /><br />they are both realy good disks for both picture and sound <br /><br />i have not come across the Pioneer disk as yet <br /><br />if you want copy i think that Harvey normans still seLL BOTH OF