All i'm stating is the similarities between the two events. That is official complaints to gain a spot, when no real damage had been done. While Skaifes door at Bathurst was a safety issue, it was still a 50/50 call, the same as Ingalls at surfers.<br /><br />I don't hold any hatered for Kmart and Holden because they made a complaint, infact I got alot of respect from them because of Greg Murphy's acceptance of the incident after the hearing.<br /><br />All i'm saying is it happens both sides of the camp, and it happens in all sports (how many times do you see a bowler in cricket yell "howz'at", trying to convince the umpire its a LBW or whatever, even though he may well know its not).<br /><br />btw, whats the big issue with wanting to know my name? I use this nick of just about every forum I participate in, and i've never had anyone question me about it.<br /><br />I didn't come here to cause trouble or bait people, I just tried to explain my side of the story, and how I feel about the incidents.<br /><br />cheers . . . <br /> damien