Its funny how all the forums are talking about these Industrial Relations changes. Although I am only a member of two forums and I do read quite a few of the others and the bigger forums like Austech and what I have noticed is that some members on these forums are company owners, managers or people in higher level management. But what bothers me, by reading their posts is that most of these guys are in piracy forums, yes, they are stealing pay TV, stealing and ripping DVD's but when it comes to their workforce, all of a sudden they are righteous. Now, if these guys will lower themselves for the above, could you imagine them as your boss? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />