thnaks again lazer for taking your time for all of that. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> By the way good news for me kinder.. well you see how you said from the link.. i pick up *AOA america* for the very first time since i have this dish 4 years ago what have i miss.... aniways funny enugh it scan abit and then about at least 10 or more AOA america muli channels apeared with the same name but with code numbers whatever that suppose to meant i waited at the hour and watch channel one AOA then the next channel and was showing the same thing but once the programe finish each aoa channel was actually showing a different programe or something... could you or someone explain what is this meant to be? its interesting though.<br /><br />After that i pick up reutuers LONDON and that came signal clean but nothing in there just keeps repeating a british female this is reuters londo peep peep .. suppose this one is for media use only corect?<br /><br />i try to pick up APTN ASIA it pick up the channel because it was showing but when i store it with the rest of the channels that channel is broken or error but the sat did pick that channel.<br /><br />for the athers some say no signal... but i will try more later... but pitty im only getting asia sat2 only wish i had something els to hunt for ather channels if i new what i was doing.<br />thanks for the links and will continue to post in.