thanks guys,<br /><br />well i did not touch the dish, and i think it is up there pointing to where the man from trabs left it!! so what shall i do, also i recived a call this moring from UBI and they told me if i want to join i need to do the setup myself. so i was wondering are they going to be the same trust worthy like tarbs beacuse tarbs organised the whole thing, i mean instaltion. well i am unsure about UBI, so can some one tell me how to get the box runing and if it worth joing UBI or the WNI is better.<br /><br />your help is making a differnece<br /><br />fawaz