</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Boring:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nick:<br /><strong>And that can only be achieved if you use them illegally.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">IF being the appropriate word.<br /><br />So if Satfreak sees anything he doesnt like for any reason of his own , he has the right to just automatically delete it ?<br /><br />It's rather ironic that the same people who complained about censorship are in fact , now doing the censoring both here and on another site that has posts that you read and when next you are there they are gone.<br /><br />Aus City is just one Australian satellite forum. There are plenty of others out there such as austech.info , and sat-industry.net who have plenty of Dreambox discussion that isnt all piracy related.<br /><br />Card Sharing is nothing new , it has been going on for well over 12 months.<br /><br />Commercial War ? I dont think so. Tarbs was heavily pirated and UBI and TV Plus will be no different , especially due to the way they have both engaged in the ridiculous carry on of dirty tricks and related rubbish. This will put a lot of doubt in subscribers minds.......if these companies carry on with juvenile behaviour like this , how are they capable of running a company ? Will I sign up and lose out like I did with TARBS ? That is the reason why people will turn to Piracy , though there are always some that will spend $500 to save themselves $200.<br /><br />And if there is a dollar to be made out of piracy , there will ALWAYS be someone out there doing it. Ethnic groups are no exception and if anything , are more likely to set up piracy rings in my opinion ( no that is not a racist comment , just a fact )<br /><br />If Piracy was to start , it would quickly travel through word of mouth in ethnic communities. Discussion about it here makes little difference. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">As quoted by Boring<br />It's rather ironic that the same people who complained about censorship are in fact , now doing the censoring both here and on another site that has posts that you read and when next you are there they are gone.<br /><br />Now Phil tells me he will not sensor anything anymore, but I am watching and waiting to see if I get more Biased industry talking on the Other Pay TV Forum.<br />Boring sounds like a good candidate for a replacement Moderator if we need it.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by THE ADMIN:<br /><strong>Boring sounds like a good candidate for a replacement Moderator if we need it. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hehehe , I dont know about being Moderator material but I think only people that dont have an interest ( financial or otherwise ) in any of the provider companies should be moderators.

Yes I totally agree and I won't let industry take over the forums.<br />I suspect there are UBI people on these forums but at least they don't dig into everyone like ja and his aliases.<br />As for Satfreak I will be closely monitoring his post as there is definitely a connection between them.

Could someone help me to set my TARBS equipment on OPtus b3 to watch free to air globecast channels. My box and dish is currently set on PAS8 and has no difficulty to recieve Arabic channels on Mysat (or TV+ channels). <br /><br />Thanks

Farseas,<br /><br />Geez, where were you all this time?<br /><br />Now, sit down and let me whip out my crystal ball and see exactly what equipment you have so that I can tell you what to do.<br /><br /><br />…hmmmm, I see a Mentor box, yes, yes defiantly a mentor box. I cannot quite make out the model number. Looks like STB-31… no can’t make out the other bit. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <br />Oh yes and here is a dish….yup it’s a Ku offset dish, ok.<br /><br />…do you get the drift, man? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

Darth Vader I'm after the same info. I'm in Sydney and have an stb 3110, and the standard dish that came with the tarbs service (65cm?) currently pointed at pas8

The box model is STB3100. would it work. It works for My sat and TV+ Channels. Dish size is 70cm in diameter

@Rad, what you talking about?<br />@Farseas - Short answer ...No! Long answer is, ...ummm, No because UBI will remove your channel auth's as soon as you do a channel update and then your stuffed. So I guess it's no.

im after the same info as farseas, how to get from pas8 to b3, but looks like it wont work anyway

reuder,<br /><br />You do it by moving the dish 9mm towards the west and elevate it to about 52 deg elevation <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br />BTW it's me Vlad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Drath Vader<br /><br />I am looking for Globecast not UBI. Why should they do somthing to my box. <br /><br />anyway, why the short answer is no?!!!

globecast you can. You need to do what I just told reuder and load up Globecast transponder frequency and do a channel update.

Please someone let me have instructions(move the dish from PAS8 to Optus B3). I could't find the instruction posted proviously on this forum.<br /><br />I have put my 70cm dish in my yard, 1m above the ground. there are some trees 100m away from the dish would it be a problem? Do I have to move the dish on top of the roof? <br /><br />Please help.<br />Thanks

Yes, find your evevation and if your looking through the trees your stuffed mate.best way is use a broom<br />and a protractor with a level and work from that.<br />Keep away from trees

Farseas,<br /><br />First of you’ll need a protractor, a spirit level and a long strait stick (the longer the better) or better yet a plastic pipe. With your protractor make a 51 degree angle between the spirit level and the stick and fasten the stick to the spirit at that angle. Now go to where your dish is and set the spirit level with the ground. Look up the side of the stick or through the hole of the pipe. If you see blue sky you are laughing.<br /><br /><br />Mind you 51 degrees is quite steep. A tree 100m away would have to be (where is my scientific calculator when I need one), some 120m high.<br /><br />Hight of tree = 100m away X tan 50 degree = 123.4<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br /><br />Vlad...

Good on you Vader, thats the easy way of doing it.

Thanks Darth Vlad for your scientific calculation. I'll test your way. <br /><br />Thanks mate

Phil,<br /><br />I was searching for your instructions (posted few months ago)with no chance. Can you help mate? The ask me for $120 to redirect the dish (here in Canberra)!!!!! I'll like to do the job myselfe(if I can).<br /><br />Thanks in advance.

That's why they asked for that money, cause it ain't trucking simple!<br />If you didn't follow what I just wrote, what chance in hell do you think you have in setting it up, man?!

Hahahaa...<br />Oh what a rip-off, for re-directing the existing dish, they charge $50-$60 in Sydney, how come its double in Canberra. Perhaps, it might be the capital city effect...

No, not enough competition! That’s what these two companies are trying to do to each other too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Darth, What about the other companies, such as Horizon TV, My TV+, WMI, PBS etc... Don't they create any competition at all?

PBS isent for Australia its for Fiji <br /><br />horizon tv, mytv, wmi only focus on specific ethnic communities

:nod:<br /><br />That's what I meant <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

here in Canberra everything is dearer(what a capital city. I have lived in sydney for several years. I think it is the best city and things are cheaper and more available. I am going to quit my job and come back to sydney as soon as I can. If anybody wants to come to capital thik about it for a while.<br /><br />Just a comment for you wogs, there is less tolerance for you here.

Nor we for them rednecks either <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Thanks for your help, Drath Vader.<br /><br />Ladies and gentelmen, I got it. Optus B3 is in my home.I saved $120. Waiting for IPTR, hopefully soon.

If anybody need help (in Canberra) I will offer my assistance.

hehehe,<br /><br />Now, by the time you shout us a beer each...it'll probably cost you more <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

For some reason I can just see channels on Transponder 12658. Can you help me to get to 12525. It does not lock on this transponder. Why?!!!

where is that beer I ordered? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br />what box are you using?

The beer is ready for you just come to o'conor in Canberra.<br /><br />The Box is STB3100.Does it help?

Farseas,<br />Ok if you stand in front and look towards your dish, the LNB needs to be so that the cable is on the bottom pointing slightly to the right, like 5 O'Clock.<br />What is it's possition now? Once you change it, scan again and all should be good.<br /><br />Vlad...

I still have probs with 12525. I can easily get 12658. The LNB is exactly at the position Drath vade have mentioned. the signal quality is 36%.<br /><br />When I turn the dish about 1-2 degs to the east the box try to seek signal from transponders 12407, 12527, and 12720 ( 30000, vertical) and it says all info recieved but shows no TV channels (just ESPN, CNN,NGC,... from old Tarb channels).<br /><br />However, turning the dish 1-2 degs to west again to its original position, it quickly lock on 12658 vertical(only) and shows all globecast channels on that frequency.<br /><br />Can you think of anything I have to do?Please help if you can.

Farseas<br />I have the same problem,it was ok last sunday but<br />since then cant do it.

Steven,<br /><br />Please let me know if you found out how we can fix it.<br /><br />Thanks for your help.

Steven, <br />How high is your dish located? Mine is one meter above the ground in the backyard.

The hight of the dish, with respect to the ground has no bearing. The satellite is some 37,000km away from us. Bringing the dish 1 meter closer to the sat wont improve the signal much! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 18. January 2005, 04:58 PM: Message edited by: Darth Vader ]</small>

Thanks Drath Vader,<br /><br />I am playing with the elevation. I'll try 48.8 for Canberra.

The dish is about 4 meters high above the ground,<br />but the problem is the box, would not load up that freq.What channels you after? I was after the ERT greek channel, but now i can get it thru<br />UBI, with 12613 H 22500 freq.