It is now quite obvious to me (and to most of us here), what the agendas are with service providers in this game.<br /><br />Here are my findings for all to read!<br /><br />This pretty much concerns only the Balkans folk so far but may affect others if, God forbid, TV+ survives.<br /><br />TV+ has taken on the mentality of the Balkans. Even the Communist style corruption, slyness, brainwashing and bribery are at play now.<br />They even have a forum of their own where if you state something that is not in the interest of TV+ your post is promptly deleted and you are banned! It sounds like the time I was OS and they wanted to kick me out of school for wearing a cross! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />How I got banned from their communist site? I'll explain.<br /><br />I wanted to know why is it that on their site, they profess that people must decide on the service providers for their Balkan content. I then got some blurb about TV+ thinking that there isn't enough of us Balkans (read suckers) to support two providers.<br />However, when i asked: <br />1. "Why then did TV+ bother opening their company if this was the case?" <br />2. "Why did TV+, plainly, rip the content out of the hands of UBI and sign up Pink to "exclusive contracts" with TV+, when UBI was already running with the content for a month so far."<br />The post got deleted and i got <strong>BANNED!!!</strong><br /><br />Bwahahaha....<br /><br />They even openly state that TV+ has a monopoly over the Balkans packages! Oh, and did i mention? "ja" is their administrator!!! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....<br />Yeah so when I asked "ja" about that he said he was proud of TV+ having a monopoly over the content cause the owner was a Serb.<br />What concerns me is that "ja" and all the other brainwashed followers of the site cant see that TV+'s agenda is to divide and conquer! Once there is no more competition they can up the prices through the roof!!! Mark my words, and they will!!!<br /><br />So folks, <strong>do not, under any circumstance sign up with TV+</strong>, as a company with that mentality should not survive. It will put us back into the Stone Age!!! What we need is healthy competition where folk can pick the quality and value of the service they pay good money for!<br /><br />Yours sincerely,<br />Vlad...

I figured it out...<br /><br />"ja" is actually Slobodan Milosevic!!!!<br /><br />Bwahahahahahaha<br /><br />Vlad....

Darth Vader<br /><br />TV+ has NO FORUM other than basic discussions on the AUS-CITY forum.<br /><br />JA is no representative of TV Plus and any forum he runs is not authorised or approved in any manner by TV Plus.<br /><br />Any representation that JA is authorised to represent TV Plus is totally un authorised.<br /><br />TV Plus will NOT increase pricing for customers that sign up for its 4 channel package.<br /><br />Vlad I am sorry that you feel this way.<br /><br />Kind Regards

Ja, is not only a non representative of TV+, he is a nobody! A nothing! A Twerp! An imbecile! A fagot!<br /><br />And i would, Satfreak, if I was in your shoes, do everything in my power to stop him from damaging the image of TV+ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br /><br />Vlad...

What is the 4th channel SatFreak?

Satfreak,<br />As you know, I, the "Darth Vader" has always had and still have the most unifluenced view of them all. I don't take sides and i certainly call 'em as I see 'em!<br /><br />But that fruitcake, "ja", a comunist at heart, came from Serbia yesterday and thinks he can propagete those communist, Slobodan Milosevic, brainwashing techniques on us here in Aus!<br /><br />Well "ja", you twerp, you're in for a surprise!!!<br />We here in Australia know our rights!<br /><br />Where do you get off and what an arrogant bastard you are, using the words "Serbian brothers" in order to control your masses??? Idiot!<br /><br /><br />Sheesh, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br />Vlad...<br /> <br /> <small>[ 16. February 2005, 10:06 AM: Message edited by: Darth Vader ]</small>

taking it way too personal<br /><br />opusti se.

I was banned and get a " banned for being a provakator " message on the screen ( yes , thats how they spelt it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> )

Oh yeah...<br /><br />"ja" doesn't realise who he is *ucking with!<br /><br />Vlad...

He doesnt realise the " force is with you " <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

Balkans Basic Channel Line up<br />PINK+<br />BN<br />BK<br />Pink Extra (in the comming weeks)<br /><br />Balkans Plus Channel Line Up<br />all the above Plus<br />NTV Hayat<br />BHTV1<br />RTS (pending)<br />and 2 - 3 more channels from across the Balkans region.<br /><br />TV Plus reserve the right to charge an optional fee for the Balkans Plus Channel lineup if the customer wishes these extra channels (not 100% finalised) BUT no price increase for the basic lineup

Boring,<br /><br />That's the exact one i got! Spelling error and all <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br />Hahahaha LMAO <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Satfreak:<br /><strong> Balkans Basic Channel Line up<br />PINK+<br />BN<br />BK<br />Pink Extra (in the comming weeks)<br /><br />Balkans Plus Channel Line Up<br />all the above Plus<br />NTV Hayat<br />BHTV1<br />RTS (pending)<br />and 2 - 3 more channels from across the Balkans region.<br /><br />TV Plus reserve the right to charge an optional fee for the Balkans Plus Channel lineup if the customer wishes these extra channels (not 100% finalised) BUT no price increase for the basic lineup </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">ok so the basic price would be??? $65 as the basic price?? per month<br /><br />so say another $15 - $30 extra for the plus package to have all the channels so this comes to<br /><br />$65 + $15 = $80<br />or<br />$65 + $30 = $95<br /><br />these a just examples of wat i think the prices would be but Satfreak correct me and tell us all what the basic and plus packages would cost with TV plus <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Satfreak:<br /><strong> Darth Vader<br /><br />TV+ has NO FORUM other than basic discussions on the AUS-CITY forum.<br /><br />JA is no representative of TV Plus and any forum he runs is not authorised or approved in any manner by TV Plus.<br /><br />Any representation that JA is authorised to represent TV Plus is totally un authorised.<br /><br />TV Plus will NOT increase pricing for customers that sign up for its 4 channel package.<br /><br />Vlad I am sorry that you feel this way.<br /><br />Kind Regards </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Satfreak<br />PM' Phil for the collection of emails and Pm's he has received from ppl outside of members from this forum asking about ja saying is he in bed with TV Plus. (he sent me some to read from the public)<br />What a boaster!!!<br />I certainly wouldn't want him on my side, as we all read he clearly said on his forum HE HAD PHIL REMOVED AS A MODERATOR,,WHAT LIES!! from aus-city.<br />Satfreak he is causing more damage to tvplus than what you think, most of the Serbian customers that I know all know aus-city because I told them and they all have found one way or another ja's official tvplus site and are confused to what they see.<br />ja is your downfall bud <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Darth Vader:<br /><strong> Ja, is not only a non representative of TV+, he is a nobody! A nothing! A Twerp! An imbecile! A fagot!<br /><br />And i would, Satfreak, if I was in your shoes, do everything in my power to stop him from damaging the image of TV+ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br /><br />Vlad... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Sorry i missed this one, see others think the same. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br />aus-city is a good site and we all can get genuine help here <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Is it still right;<br /><br />IF Satfreak + Ja = TV+,<br />...THEN<br />.......IF 2*Satfreak = TV+ OR 2*Ja = TV+,<br />..........THEN Satfreak = Ja,<br />.......ENDIF;<br />ENDIF;<br /> <br /> <small>[ 16. February 2005, 01:37 PM: Message edited by: fsking ]</small>

I see you've modified my equation. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

I'm away all day and there is more action on the forum, Even cathy has had her short stint today.<br />Look,,, What ja does on his forum is ja's problem and not mine, ja is pro tvplus and I'm pro UBI but at the same time I'm fair with both companies and I will say it again for the tenth time both companies should have the Balkans channels to keep competition in the game.

I only represent myself!<br />I have nothing to do with TV+ or UBI or any other organization.<br />I'm just an ordinary TV+ customer with need to express myself.<br />For that purpose I opened MY OWN PRIVATE forum, on which I'm entitled to ban or kiss whoever I want.<br /><br /><br />Darth … now you know how it feels to be banned for expressing your self, same thing happend to me on this forum.<br /><br />You can jump up and down etc but there is NOTHING you can do about that.<br /><br />Reason for ban? I'm not going to bullshit visitors here that you spam or lie or did something on my forum as you did bullshit people about me when I was banned here. I'l tell you simple thruth - I just don’t like you. <br />That’s it. <br /><br />And you know what? You can’t do anything about that.<br /><br />Actually you can "mozes da me poljubis u dlakavo dupe" (translated, "you can kiss my hairy ass").<br /><br />You complained about me writing on this forum? OK. I left. I leave you alone, what more do you want? Why you follow me and come on my forum if you wanted me to leave this one on the first place? Are you in love with me? Why don't you leave me alone?<br /><br />Have nice day.<br /><br /><br />Phil, thnx for first fair post from you. - You said it right, what I do on my forum is MY business.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 16. February 2005, 04:40 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

Jou're just an ordinary jerkoff!!! Go back to where you came from, dickhead! Die!

I did but you followed me.<br /><br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />Comme again, I'l make you somme coffe, I promise I will not spit in the cup <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Yep, it's official...<br /><br />He is a mental case!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad...

Yep ....

FOUND ON JA's web site <br />webmaster<br />Administrator<br />Full Member<br /><br />Posts: 161<br /><br /><br /> <br /> Re: Pink Extra & Pink Plus gone from UBI 9.2.2005<br />« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2005, 05:35:47 PM » <br />What an idiot!<br /><br />Free account?!<br /><br />lol<br /><br />You want a copy of my credit card statement?<br /><br /><br />My opinion is (and I'm entitled to it like everybody else in this country) that, first of all UBI is thug and deceiving company, secondly I believe that in Australia there is not enough customers to keep both companies in business. In this case I strongly support company which is Serbian origin in ownership and only by that fact close to its market, TV+.<br />The best thing for both companies is to split the market, UBI keeps Arab and Turkish and Greek channels and TV+ to keep Balkan and East Europe channels and everyone is happy.<br /><br />Yes I'm proud that finally it’s being proved what I was saying few months ago and because of that being abused, banned, framed etc, by that Debono deceiving thug on aus-city and his fellow brainwashed pro-UBI dogs.<br /><br />I am PROUD.<br /><br />Where are they now, where is that thug now?!<br />I wonder how they will justify all those previous attacks on me only because I was saying exactly what is stated in the topic - UBI will lose Balkan package (main channels, BKTV, TVBN and PINK TV's).<br /> <br /> Phil's comment <br />ja <br />I don't call you names nor I abuse you so why do you persist in calling me a thug on your forum?<br />See i won't lower myself to your levels but what I will do is become more professional with UBI and Go against Tv plus you should know that by now so should satfreak.<br />Satfreak see My Pm to you was correct the other day ja will be responsible for your poor ratings in the future.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 16. February 2005, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: Phil Debono ]</small>

So when (not if) TV+ folds, they will have "ja" to thank! <br />He managed to, single-handedly, alienate every person on this site. So even the folk sitting on the fence of decision have now no doubt where they will go for their service! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad...

My biggest mistake was deleting over 50 emails from the general public complaining about ja's dirty tactics and supporting me and they honestly like most think that ja is satfreak. <br />I have shown to some members these emails just to prove that ja is doing a dis'service to TV plus.<br />You can't change the minds of the general public, they think this way and will continue doing it this way.<br />Just remember I was around on this forum Long before TARBS,UBI,and TV plus was and I was 98% commented for helping People via emails and whatsoever, now these same people on this forum read ja's rubbish on here and his forum and they make their own decisions of who is who.

I cant wait for encryption and "settle time" to be honest <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by night_flight:<br /><strong> I cant wait for encryption and "settle time" to be honest <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Tv+ stil broadcast advertisment: " TV+ WILL ENCRYPT ALL IT'S CHANNELS BY THE END OF JANUARY"<br /><br />Cool, huh <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

yes and the worst thing is that its being broadcasted by the channels back home...<br />i honestly feel very sorry for the ppl that have signed up with them so far not because I am against them, but just because of some broken promises they have made so far...<br />On the other hand I am <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> that we didnt see this years beovizija because of that Tijanic guy

by the way for those who dont know beozivija is serbian festival/competition for the entry to the eurovision song contest

night flight when is it on,,,<br /><br />RTS is done from what I hear...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Satfreak:<br /><strong> night flight when is it on,,,<br /><br />RTS is done from what I hear... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">What do you mean by RTS is done?

well I heard that things had been finalised between TV+ and RTS..

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Satfreak:<br /><strong> night flight when is it on,,,<br /><br />RTS is done from what I hear... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">oo that I am not sure if they have signed any contracts with any1 so far....I gotta say their managment there is EXTREMELY BAD! comon this is a national tv, should be for free like greeks and turks have it!<br />But if u are reffering for the songs for the serbian entry, they have all been finalised...we just need those little montenegrians to add their little spice to the whole cake and then chooose the best for the eurovision... and still no RTS here in oz naughty naughty naughty CEO of RTS MR TIJANIC <img src="http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/fighting/1/fighting56.gif" alt=" - " /> .... nothing I ll stick to gergana from tv planeta for the time being and "....celuvaj me i obichaj me..." heheeh <img src="http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/happy/3/happy52.gif" alt=" - " /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 22. February 2005, 02:18 AM: Message edited by: night_flight ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by night_flight:<br /><strong>...I ll stick to gergana from tv planeta for the time being and "....celuvaj me i obichaj me..." heheeh <img src="http://www.planetsmilies.com/smilies/happy/3/happy52.gif" alt=" - " /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'll stick to &#1043;&#1077;&#1088;&#1075;&#1072;&#1085;&#1072; as well ! I'm glad we have similar taste for "lyrics" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br /><br /> <img src="http://montana.bg/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_Gergana1-2-12-055%7E0.jpg" alt=" - " /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 22. February 2005, 10:25 AM: Message edited by: YU4CFG ]</small>

Naughty,Naughty. cute butt.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> Naughty,Naughty. cute butt. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Naughty, but nice <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br />"Look, what a beautiful... voice <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> ! "

Watch Planeta on Weekends @8-9am, as well as MAD's Flesh....Its really NICE! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by fsking:<br /><strong> Watch Planeta on Weekends @8-9am, as well as MAD's Flesh....Its really NICE! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">hmmm... a bit too early for me... But I can tape it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />