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#20193 Sun 02 Apr 2006 08:26:AM
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question will other irdeto boxes work providing we have the right smart card?

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gavros,<br /><br />I doubt it.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana">Originally posted by reuder:<br /><strong> According to new information, UBI will be issuing new Irdeto STB in exchange for your MDS STB. The only problem I have with this is, what happens if you paid for your STB? You own it, UBI does not have any right to demand it. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana">Well even though the MDS box will be useless once the Irdeto boxes are active, seeing as I bought my MDS box second-hand from a friend so I could subscribe to UBI, I see no reason why I should have to hand it in to receive a new box that my subscription covers.<br /><br />It'll be interesting to see what the final word will be about all this.<br /><br />RATLSNAKE

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RATLSNAKE,<br /><br />I don't have the information as yet but I see it this way if you wish to get the free box upgrade you'll need to exchange it. If you wish to keep the MDS then you might have to purchase the new UBI IRD.<br /><br />You might of purchased the IRD yourself but UBI is offering you a box upgrade free of charge.<br /><br />New UBI subscribers after the 28th April will need to purchase the new IRD and will not be given a free IRD or a subsisdised price.<br /><br />This is what I personally think but never know what is going to happen.

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Well obviously I am not being given a choice in the matter, but I would love to hear an official statement from UBI explaining why they feel they need to collect all the old boxes. Are they planning to sell them overseas, even though they are now second hand?<br /><br />But to a more pressing question, as I type this all Greek channels except RIK SAT are advertising this new UBI infomercial about subscribing non-stop in an infinite loop. It is also on all the Maco channels, yet not on any other channels.<br /><br /><br />How long is this going to go on for? As a genuine subscriber I am being inconvenienced and not receiving the service I pay for, just because other people are crooks.<br /><br />RATLSNAKE

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As stated many times more information will be released shortly.<br /><br />I don't know the length of time the promo will be run for but it will also be shown in the respective languages shortly.<br /><br />It's been running on the hour every hour on nearly all channels.

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I understand you will provide the infomation as it comes.<br /><br />However you have to understand it is hard to explain this situation, with little info, to an older couple of ethnic background who are irate that something they paid for, that was NOT provided to them by UBI, is being "asked for" by UBI just because they have made the business decision to improve their encryption.<br /><br />They feel that UBI has no right to take something they purchased from somwehre else, even if they are being provided the new box in return. Their opinion is that if UBI want to provide a good, professional service, and want their customers to be happy, they should simply provide the box no questions asked.<br /><br />They've got it stuck in their heads that UBI are planning to pull some shifty financially with these old boxes, (i.e. profit off these old boxes) in a similar manner that TARBS profitted off many friends of theirs.<br /><br />As you can see it makes explaining things difficult. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <br /><br />RATLSNAKE

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They most likely will ship them to Fiji for PBS to use.<br /><br />I bet a lot of people want to keep the hacked box so they can view PBS off 701.

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it would be also good to have these "promo things" inside a commercial break or end of a programme...i dont like the way programmes get interrupted in the middle when youre watching something

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I don't think anyone sits there and inserts them into the channels most likely automated to go on once every hour

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana">Originally posted by alcatron:<br /><strong> it would be also good to have these "promo things" inside a commercial break or end of a programme...i dont like the way programmes get interrupted in the middle when youre watching something </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana">I don't think it should be shown on any channel except 72, their FTA info channel.<br /><br />Why invade legitimate customer's viewing, when this is a message to crooks, saying to them no less than "please stop being crooks, and pay for our product, you have a month to do so".<br /><br />I don't think we'd see Foxtel doing this in the old days. They just swapped over their system to a better one, and left pirates upset. lol<br /><br />RATLSNAKE

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RATLSNAKE,<br /><br />This is the most effective way. Between 2-5% of people have called to complain that it's interupting their viewing. The rest have called to say I'm happy to see this message and something is being done about piracy.<br /><br />The message is their to advise anyone watching for free to call UBI and subscribe before 28 April to recieve the free upgrade.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana">Originally posted by Liski:<br /><strong> RATLSNAKE,<br /><br />This is the most effective way. Between 2-5% of people have called to complain that it's interupting their viewing. The rest have called to say I'm happy to see this message and something is being done about piracy.<br /><br />The message is their to advise anyone watching for free to call UBI and subscribe before 28 April to recieve the free upgrade. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana">In a way I agree with this sort or message, but it could be shown on the bottom of the screen.<br />The interruption, when appropriate, (at the end of the scrolling message) should be for only a few seconds ... <img border="0" alt="[Sleepy]" title="" src="graemlins/default/sleepy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Thumbs Up]" title="" src="graemlins/default/thumbsup.gif" />

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Apr. 4, 2006<br /><br />The race for frequencies is on <br />(FoNet) <br /><br />BELGRADE -- Twelve television broadcasters, whose applications were complete and submitted within the set deadline, have met the legal requirements needed to qualify for the public frequency allocation competition for five national broadcast licences, whereas the applications of four media companies have been rejected, announced the Serbian Public Broadcast Agency, RRA, in its press release. <br /><br />The applications submitted by TV Avala, TV B92, TV BK, TV Kosava, MTS, Pink, Pro TV, Sigma Television, TV 5, Fox TV, Happy TV and CME SR TV have been accepted, according to the press release posted at the Public Broadcast Council website. <br /><br />Due to failure to meet the legal requirements, incomplete documentation or untimely submitted applications, TV Politika’s bid was rejected. The RTL’s application was also rejected over its “disputable” ownership structure” since more than 49 percent of the company capital is foreign. TV A was disqualified as it failed to pay the required fee as well as IBC which is a so-called socially-owned company. <br /><br />Nine radio broadcasters whose applications for five national radio broadcast frequencies were accepted are as follows: Kis FM, Pro FM, B92, Indeks, S, Fokus, Roadstar, Sigma FM and TDI. <br /><br />The applications submitted by another seven radio stations were rejected: YU Radio (100 percent state ownership), MIP Radio (failure to pay the application fee), Radio Politika (for a variety of reasons), Radio Novosti (on the grounds of incomplete documentation), Radio Fleka and Radio Grada (foreign ownership share over 49 percent) and BS FM (100 percent socially owned capital). <br /><br />Panonija TV, Most TV and Super TV from Subotica have qualified for the public competition for regional broadcast licences covering the territory of Vojvodina, the northern Serbian province. <br /><br />The following television stations will be competing for the Belgrade City broadcast licences: Art TV, Enter TV, Kosava, SOS kanal, Metropolis, Most, Palma, Televizija Plus and Studio B. <br /><br />================================================<br /><br />http://tvblog.blog.hr/<br /><br />srijeda, 05.04.2006.<br /><br />Objavljene liste kandidata za frekvencije<br /><br /> Skandal: RTL odbijen zbog nejasno&#263;e propisa<br /><br />Republi&#269;ka radiodifuzna agencija sino&#263; je na svom sajtu objavila spisak TV i radio stanica &#269;ije su prijeve na konkurs za dodelu frekvencija uvažene. Na spisku za nacionalno TV pokrivanje našli su se manje, više svi o&#269;ekivani kandidati (Pink, BK, B92, Murdochov Fox, regionalni igra&#269; CME koji drži hrvatsku Novu i slovena&#269;ku Pop TV i druge stanice), ali je izostao jedan od najve&#263;ih favorita, RTL, uz obrazloženje da ne ispunjava zakonski uslov da samo 49% kapitala sme da bude stranog porekla.<br /><br />Situacija oko ovog uslova nemarom RRA nije razjašnjena pre konkursa, ve&#263; je na mnogobrojna pitanja koja se tog, sada &#269;uvenog &#269;lana 41 stav 3 Zakona o radiodifuziji u dokumentu s naj&#269;eš&#263;im pitanjima i odgovorima na sajtu RRA odgovoreno dvosmislenom re&#269;enicom: „Prema &#269;lanu 41 st. 3 Zakona o radiodifuziji, strano fizi&#269;ko ili pravno lice može u&#269;estvovati u osniva&#269;kom kapitalu imaoca dozvole za emitovanje programa najviše 49% ukupnog kapitala, odnosno ukoliko je više stranih pravnih lice njihov ukupan deo ne može iznositi više od 49% ukupne vrednosti kapitala“. Da ni sami &#269;lanovi Saveta RRA nisu bili na&#269;isto s ovim odgovorom lepo se vidi iz &#269;injenice da su se tek posle 60-dnevnog prijavljivanja na konkurs, 30.3.2006. obratili Ministarstvu za kulturu i informisanje sa zahtevom da se rastuma&#269;i da li se posmatra i vlasni&#269;ka struktura doma&#263;ih pravnih lica koji treba da drže ve&#263;i deo kapitala stanice, tj. da li, u slu&#269;aju RTL-a firme „HVB banka“, „Mali kolektiv“ i „Farma Swiss“ koje su registrovane u Srbiji, ali s ve&#263;inskim stranom kapitalom (uz &#269;isto doma&#263;u firmu Atlas sistem), mogu da &#269;ine 51% vlasništva.<br /><br />Ministar kulture Dragan Kojadinovi&#263; je po zvani&#269;noj verziji odgovorio sutradan, 31.3, iako je na odgovoru koji je do ve&#269;eras stajao na stranici RRA stajao datum 23.2.2006 (u me&#273;uvremenu je dokument bez objašnjenja zamenjen novom verzijom s 31.3. kao datumom u zaglavlju), obe verzije možete preuzeti ovde, i napisao da se u maksimalno u&#269;eš&#263;e od 49% stranog kapitala ra&#269;una i prisustvo stranog kapitala u doma&#263;im pravnim licima, iako se ona nisu pominjala u prvobitnom tuma&#269;enju RRA.<br /><br />Naravno, RTL-u, koji je &#269;ak registrovao i adresu www.rtlserbia.com, se sve ovo nije nimalo svidelo, pa su s prili&#269;no jakom argumentacijom da se Zakonom o stranim investicijama predvi&#273;a da sve firme osnovane u Srbiji imaju status doma&#263;ih kompanija zatražili tuma&#269;enje drugih ministarstava, kao i poništenje konkursa i raspuštanje ovog i izbor novog Saveta Republi&#269;ke radiodifuzne agencije. U prvim reakcijama, Nenad Savi&#263;, PR firme „Mali kolektiv“ naglasio je i postojanje problema s datumom na tuma&#269;enju ministra Kojadinovi&#263;a. Kojadinovi&#263; je negirao da je on diskvalifikovao RTL naglasivši da on nije niti jednom re&#269;enicom pomenuo bilo kog emitera. Iskazuju&#263;i žaljenje što RTL ne&#263;e do&#263;i u Srbiju, Kojadinovi&#263; je konstatovao da je Zakon jasan (?!?) i da se ne sme selektivno tuma&#269;iti od slu&#269;aja do slu&#269;aja, ali je spomenuo i da njegovo tuma&#269;enje nije obavezuju&#263;e za RRA. Ako je zakon jasan, kao što ministar tvrdi, kako to da je Nenad Ceki&#263;, predsednik Saveta RRA u izjavi datoj u &#269;etvrtak, 30.3. rekao da postoje razli&#269;ita tuma&#269;enja šta tih &#269;uvenih 49% stranog kapitala zapravo zna&#269;i i da u tom trenutku nema stava po tom pitanju.<br /><br />Dakle, prijavljivanje je ve&#263; bilo završeno, a glavnom nadležni za dodelu frekvencija još nije bilo jasno ho&#263;e li neke stanice otpasti zbog ovakvog ili onakvog tuma&#269;enja zakona. Kako se onda uopšte o&#269;ekivalo da &#263;e stanice razumeti uslove konkursa, ako predsedniku Saveta RRA oni nisu jasni kad je „voz prošao“?!? Valjda je logi&#269;no da država, ako joj je cilj da ovde privu&#269;e najkvalitetnije svetske medije, u&#269;ini sve da svima budu jasna pravila igre pre nego što ona po&#269;ne.<br /><br />Uglavnom, ve&#269;eras je Nenad Ceki&#263;, prvi &#269;ovek RRA spomenuo mogu&#263;nost da se o stavljanju RTL-a na listu kandidata ponovo glasa, ako se tuma&#269;enje zakona u me&#273;uvremenu promeni, a najavio je i da odlu&#269;ivanje ne&#263;e trajati zakonom predvi&#273;enih 90 dana, ve&#263; verovatno svega petnaestak, tj. da &#263;e odluka biti doneta prakti&#269;no odmah po završetku javnih razgovora s medijima-kandidatima.<br /><br />Evo i detaljnog pregleda ko je dospeo na listu, a ko ne:<br /><br />TV - nacionalni nivo (5 dozvola):<br /><br />Avala — nova stanica koju žele da pokrenu neke vode&#263;e doma&#263;e firme poput Hemofarma, Metalca, ITM grupe, ali i Ekonomskog instituta, a koju je najavio Danko &#272;uni&#263;, bivši potpredsednik Savezne vlade pod Miloševi&#263;em.<br /><br />B92 — ve&#263; ima nacionalno pokrivanje. 48% kapitala stanice drži neprofitni Media Development Loan Fund - MDLF iza koga stoji Džordž Soros. 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Kanal je 1998. osnovala Miloševi&#263;eva &#263;erka Marija u saradnji s velikim brojem društvenih firmi koje su se postepeno povukle iz posla, ali tako da su njoj ostavili sav kapital. Posle oktobarskog prevrata 2000. Marija je brže-bolje prodala stanicu, a sadašnji vlasnici poseduju nekoliko manjih stanica u Nema&#269;koj i Švajcarskoj (tv.Berlin, tv.München i U1TV Zürich).<br /><br />Muzi&#269;ka televizija Srbije - MTS — muzi&#269;ki kanal koji je emisije iz svoje produkcije tokom svoje prili&#269;no duge istorije (desetak godina) emitovao na tre&#263;em kanalu RTS-a, ali i na pojedinim lokalnim stanicama, jedno vreme je bio prisutan i kao 24-satni kanal u SBB-ovoj kablovskoj mreži, a nedavno je potpisao ugovor o plasiranju svojih emisija s najrasprostranjenijim doma&#263;im muzi&#269;kim kanalom u regionu, Balkanmedijom.<br /><br />Pink — imperija koju nije potrebno posebno predstavljati. Nacionalno pokrivanje. 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Ina&#269;e, Murdochov News Corp. ve&#263; je prisutan u susednoj Bugarskoj, preko vrlo uspešnog kanala bTV.<br /><br />Happy TV — de&#269;ji kanal, sa nekoliko predajnika na strateškim ta&#269;kama (Beograd, Iriški venac, Rudnik, Jastrebac, Subotica) pokriva dobar deo Srbije. Tražio da za njih, ukoliko dobiju nacionalno pokrivanje, cena licence bude smanjena 80%, jer pokrivaju samo de&#269;ju publiku, koja &#269;ini 20% populacije. RRA je odbila taj predlog s obrazloženjem da to nije mogu&#263;e po zakonu.<br /><br />Košava i Happy TV su se dogovorile da &#263;e, ako samo jedan od ta dva kanala dobije nacionalno pokrivanje, po principu time sharinga emitovati program. Program za decu u produkciji Happy TV-a išao bi svakoga dana od 6.30—18.30, dok bi program Košave išao od 18.30—06.30, dakle u odnosu 50:50, s time što bi Košava pokrivala prime time, ali i no&#263;.<br /><br />CME SR TV — kanal iza kog stoji kompanija Central Media Enterprises, CME, koja je jak regionalni igra&#269;, jer poseduje ve&#263;i broj kanala koji su vode&#263;e privatne stanice u pojedinim zemljama regiona: Pro TV u Rumuniji, Nova u &#268;eškoj, Pop TV u Sloveniji i Markiza TV u Slova&#269;koj. Pored toga, vlasnici su i kanala 1+1 (Ukrajina) i Nova TV (Hrvatska) koji su drugi po gledanosti privatni kanali u tim državama. Ostaje, me&#273;utim, nejasno zašto je Pro TV konkurisao zasebno od CME-a. Možda misle da &#263;e s dve prijave imati ve&#263;e šanse.<br /><br />Od onih koji su izvisili, tu su:<br /><br />RTL — vode&#263;a medijska grupacija u Evropi s 34 TV i 34 radio stanice. Prvobitno iz Luksemburga, ali najviše prisutna na nema&#269;kom tržištu (&#269;uveni kanali RTL, RTL2, Vox). Dnevno preko 200 miliona ljudi u Evropi gleda neki kanal iz RTL grupe, koja je prisutna u 11 zemalja: izme&#273;u ostalog i u Rusiji (REN TV), Britaniji (five), Francuskoj (M6) i Španiji (Antena 3). U susednoj Hrvatskoj drži najpopularniju privatnu stanicu - RTL televiziju. Urednica je trebalo da bude poznata novinarka Maja Divac, nekada radila na Studiju B, a danas se svakodnevno može videti na RTS-u u kratkoj emisiji „Evronet“ Produkcijske grupe Mreža, koja se bavi evropskim integracijama.<br /><br />TV Politika — konkurisala u saradnji sa skandinavskim medijskim gigantom Viasatom (poznat po kablovskim i satelitskim kanalima TV1000, Viasat Explorer i Viasat History). Odbijena zbog više razloga (sporna vlasni&#269;ka struktura, nedostatak raznih potvrda me&#273;u kojima i one za izmirivanje obaveza vezanih za autorska i srodna prava, prekasno upla&#263;en depozit za u&#269;eš&#263;e na konkursu). Ova stanica tavori ve&#263; godinama, manje-više svi novinari koji su to mogli prešli su na druge stanice, pa je ovo bila poslednja šansa da se tu nešto promeni. &#268;ini se da je sada sudbina ove stanice i kona&#269;no zape&#269;a&#263;ena.<br /><br />TV A — kanal koji je želeo da oja&#269;a veze izme&#273;u Srbije i dijaspore. Najavljen kao televizija pravih vrednosti namenjena i publici u rasejanju, ali i onoj u otadžbini, koja bi bila okrenuta auditorijumu pravoslavnih zemalja i u perspektivi zapo&#269;ela emitovanje i na ruskom i engleskom. Urednik je poznati novinar, književnik i publicista Miodrag Ili&#263;, koji je vodio satelitski program RTS-a od 1991-1996. godine.<br /><br />IBC — televizija koja tavori ve&#263; godinama u beogradskom etru vrte&#263;i prakti&#269;no samo reklame i spotove. Ranije emitovala programe iz produkcije Muzi&#269;ke televizije Srbije (MTS). Odbijena, jer je 100% u društvenom vlasništvu (vlasnik je neprivatizovani nekadašnji gigant Genex).<br /><br />Za pokrivanje Vojvodine (jedna dozvola) konkurisale su tri televizije: Most (iza kojeg stoji SPS), Panonija i Super TV, a za beogradski etar (6 dozvola) bori&#263;e se 9 kanala: Art TV, Enter TV (dosad nepoznat), Košava, SOS kanal, Metropolis, Most (novosadski), Palma, TV Plus (iza koje stoji firma Interspid koja se dovodi u vezu s Markom Miloševi&#263;em) i Studio B.<br /><br />Za nacionalnu radio frekvenciju (5 dozvola) konkurisalo je 9 stanica: Kiss FM (satelitski radio s narodnjacima, emituje se i u beogradskom etru), Pro FM (rumunski kapital, isto kao kod Pro TV), B92, Index radio, Radio S (muzi&#269;ki radio iza kojeg stoji SPS, ve&#263; pokriva prakti&#269;no celu Srbiju), Radio Fokus (vlasnik, kao i kod TV Plusa, firma Interspid), Roadstar radio (dosad nepoznat), Sigma FM (Kiprani) i TDI radio (muzi&#269;ki radio iz Beograda).<br /><br />Za radio frekvenciju za celu Vojvodinu niko nije konkurisao, dok je za 14 beogradskih radio dozvola konkurisalo &#269;ak 40 stanica, me&#273;u kojima je ogroman broj ve&#263; aktivnih gradskih stanica (24, 988, Akademac, Art, Balkan, Bandini, BK, Bonton, Venus, Golf, Hit, Idea, Jat, Košava, Luna, M radio (iz Resnika), Maxiss, MFM, Naxi, Nostalgie, OK radio, Perper, Pingvin, Pink, Roda, Sky, Studio B, Sport FM, TDI, Top FM, TRI, Žabac, City i Cricket)*, ali i neke nove poput radija Lane (stanica Željka Joksimovi&#263;a koja se prili&#269;no uspešno ve&#263; skoro godinu dana emituje preko satelita Hotbird, zatim stanice Beta plus (izgleda da je u pitanju saradnja novinske agencije Beta i francuskog me&#273;unarodnog radija RFI), kao i meni dosad nepoznatih stanica: Glas Beograda, Avala krug i Oranž FM.<br /><br />* Kladim se da ve&#263;ina Beogra&#273;ana koja ovo &#269;ita nikad nije &#269;ula za barem polovinu od ovih stanica. Linkovi na stanice iz beogradskog etra dostupni su na prezentaciji Zorana Modlija.<br /><br />Odbijene su prijave MIP radija (nije upla&#263;en depozit), YU radija (100% državni), radija Novosti (nepotpuna dokumentacija), radija Flash (preko 49% stranog kapitala), radija Grad (preko 49% stranog kapitala), i BS FM-a (100% društvenog kapitala, mogu&#263;e da je re&#269; o projektu Beogradskog sajma).<br /><br />I za kraj, ko je preživeo, još par detalja:<br /><br />&#268;ini se da je zakonska za&#269;koljica da u kapitalu osniva&#269;a ne sme biti više od 49% stranog kapitala na dosta bizaran na&#269;in uticala na ovaj konkurs, pa su tako neke firme osnovane s vlasni&#269;kim udelom od par stotina evra. Tako, kako pišu Ve&#269;ernje novosti, &#269;uveni News corp. u Foks televiziji ima udeo od 245 €, CME sa svojih 122,5 € i Slovenac Marijan Jurjanec sa tako&#273;e 122,5 € &#269;ine 49% kapitala firme CME SR itd. Dakle, zakon se izigrava na najo&#269;igledniji mogu&#263;i na&#269;in, pravljenjem firmi s ukupnim kapitalom od 500 € koje &#263;e kao, kad dobiju dozvolu, da stvaraju televizije s više desetina ili stotina zaposlenih, dok RTL koji je lepo i svima na znanje stavio pravu vlasni&#269;ku strukturu svoje eventualne budu&#263;e TV stanice u Srbiji izvisio, jer nije hteo da muti.<br /><br />Ako je ve&#263; &#269;lan o 49% stranog kapitala takav kakav je, onda su RRA i vlast morali da se pobrinu da ovakva vrlo o&#269;igledna zaobilaženja zakona budu spre&#269;ena i da se ne dozvoli da fiktivne firme vredne 500 € upravljaju medijima.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana">Originally posted by LAZERSAT:<br /><strong> It's just a swap yeah you might own the MDS box but when you get the new Irdeto box then you own that so whats the difference?<br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Tahoma, Verdana">The difference is you won't own it!

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Things have changed since i posted that read this for a updated info<br /><br /><br /><br />You dont need to give ur MDS box in to get a new box but the new box will remain UBI property if you take up the free upgrade offer if your a current subscriber

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Hi,<br /><br />I've decided to close this thread as it's gone way off topic.<br /><br />Please use the thread for any posts regarding the UBI changes.

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