</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Darth Vader:<br /><strong> scg,<br /><br />...pa ste dosli ovde u Australiju da nam solite pamet, jeli?<br />Mi smo ovde moroni i mentoli, jeli? Pa kako to samo vas, majka pametne rodi?<br /><br />'ajde 'leba ti ne seri. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Darth Vader, momak sta je sa tobom???? Ko te to vi a ko smo to mi????(jesi ti siptar pa se odvajas ???) Ja sam u Australiji vec vise od deset godina i nisam dosao ovde da bi ikome solio pamet, a ti sada kazi da u onome sto sam ja napisao nema istine. Pa samo gledam ove nase ovde, pa bulju bi dali za $2 a trpanje drugima u bulju im dodje kao dobar dan. Ovo se ne odnosi samo na pojedince na ovom forumu vec na nase ljude uopste.

Reeeeee,<br /><br />You speak Serbian now? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />Kala re, kala! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

hehehe yeh reeeee !!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

scg,<br /><br />Dali se ti to pravis lud, ili si prirodno glup? Govoris (pises) da smo mi svi mentoli, pajseri dokoni i kojesta. Pa ti si taj koji odvaja. Vec si ti okarakterisao nas narod ovde, vidim. A to za bulju, i za $2... pa "mito" je gotovo nasa rec, bre! Uvlacenje u bulju smo mi izmislili i na njemu magistrirali. Nomoj ni da zapocinjem o karakternim osobinama nas Srba (a to za siptara, tata ti siptar).<br />Pun mi je kurac vas skorasa koji ste dosli tek juce i tu nesto kao, mi smo najpaetniji, ovi ovde su glupi mentoli...bla bla. Ako ti se ne svidja brate, kofer i nazad gde je bolje! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

Can someone please translate whats written on those posts. All I can see from -.Laser.-'s translation is that some pricks are shitting inside the forum again with its language. I am Turkish but prefer to use english to communicate with everyone and expect the same from others. This new chap "scg" has no friggen right to abuse the forum members as shown in -.Laser.-'s translation. If scg or its type joins the forum to exchange the knowledge than more than welcome but comes and shits around like whats written than must fuck-off from this site and never come back again even with some other boolshit three latter names, ok!...

Couldnt agree more fsking.

I guess we'll wait for Lazers translations <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />fsking, I agree too. To put your minds at ease, not that I'm making excuses for their action, is that "cfg" has tried to come to the rescue of "ja". Those comments, to my understanding, are not intended to all folk, just to the Australian Serb population here that have pretty much grown up in Aus.<br />The long and short of it, fsking, is that “cfg” is trying to say that I’m a uneducated arse-licking lazy cunt that would sell my sole for $2.00. This prognosis was done simply because I didn’t come to the defence of “ja” but rather I attacked a fellow Serb.<br />So it’s sort of bickering amongst our selves. Sorry you had to bare witness to all this “dirty laundry” but one thing the Otoman empire left behind in the Balkans was “inaat” (spelling) stubbornness. I know it’s not the time nor place but…hey, such is life…<br />Regards,<br />Vlad

hahahaha sorry my interpreter is not in at the moment LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> cant translate it then <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 12. January 2005, 09:32 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

Darth Vader, ma kroz tvoje komentare se vidi da si smrdljiva pickica. Bas bih voleo da se nadjemo pa da mi u oci kazes da mi je otac siptar( pa da vidis kako bi proradio inat i bes koji su nam kako ti kazes Turci ostavili). Ja tebi nisam spominjao ni oca ni majku picketino vasljiva. <br /><br />To all u that don't understand Serbian.<br />My comments were for us Serbs in general not Serbs that were born here or grown up here. Darth Vader is full of shit as his translation is totally incorrect. He just translated in the way that suits him. <br />I am sorry that you guys are in the middle of this.

scg,<br />We can take this discussion in private message...<br /><br />all,<br />In a day or two I'll be closing the topic.<br />I won't delete until a couple of days later. Pease extract what information you need or restart another topic on a similar subject. It is obvious that not one topic can stay on subject for more than one or two days.<br />Psychopaths and ADD sufferers seem to just take over! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 12. January 2005, 01:28 PM: Message edited by: Darth Vader ]</small>

Although last few posts are way out of topic I must admit that I was laughing my ass off reading them <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br />Lazer, your Serbian is GREAT ! I couldn't translate it better <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> Reeeeeee... !<br />SCG, if you reckon that somebody could translate your words in some wrong way, you should translate it yourself (but leave Serbian version as well) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br />I don't mind comments on Serbian, Turkish, Tagalog or whatever language you speak as far you tranlslate that on English for everyone to read.<br />&#1048; &#1072;&#1082;&#1086; &#1074;&#1077;&#1115; &#1087;&#1080;&#1096;&#1077;&#1090;&#1077; &#1089;&#1088;&#1087;&#1089;&#1082;&#1080;, &#1087;&#1080;&#1096;&#1080;&#1090;&#1077; &#1085;&#1072; &#1089;&#1088;&#1087;&#1089;&#1082;&#1086;&#1084; &#1087;&#1080;&#1089;&#1084;&#1091;, &#1076;&#1072; &#1074;&#1072;&#1089; &#1094;&#1077;&#1086; &#1089;&#1074;&#1077;&#1090; &#1088;&#1072;&#1079;&#1091;&#1084;&#1077; ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

had a little help translating it from a birdie <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Satfreak:<br /><strong> Liski where is Pink Extra..<br /><br /><br />We are waiting,,, </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">We didn't have to wait for long. I can see Pink Extra, loud and VERY clear <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by -.Lazer.-:<br /><strong> had a little help translating it from a birdie <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yep mate, I know that <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br />BTW, now you've become LAZER with double dots (.) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" />

yeh man modified my name abit more horse power LOL hehehe <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by -.Lazer.-:<br /><strong> yeh man modified my name abit more horse power LOL hehehe <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If you keep doing that donuts you'll damage the rims <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

For all of you who don't speak Serbian.<br />Click here and see this picture:<br /><br />http://www.rtvpink.com/temp_images/satelitAustralija.gif<br /><br />Picture says everything.<br /> You can find more info on http://www.rtvpink.com

Please forward all shit (messages and other)<br />to the following link :<br /><br /><img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Or http://www.shitstirrur.com/

So that is shit message, telling you the truth in words and picture?!<br /><br />It is not a shit message when you read someone elses rubish here telling you lies?

Ja stop your negative comments, post something postive for once!<br /><br />Post postively or don't post anything at all.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Vlad:<br /><strong> As you may all know now, one of my concerns with these providers is the quality of the picture and sound of the content these providers are delivering.<br /><br />I must admit, that I am quite excited out that TV+ will be delivering it’s content on direct fibre. This would mean that the picture should be far less compressed, much sharper and the audio quality should be close to perfect. So Pink+ and BK should have as good a quality as BNTV is on PAS8 (TV+).<br /><br />Well, looks like TV+ is getting their act together! <br />@ Satfreak – Any ETA on the delivery of the better quality content? Yes I know that it’s better to have any quality Pink than no Pink at all, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> but… I want more! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You know, I just realised that, since I wrote this first post, there has been no improvement in quality, in fact if anything it got worse (now even shit scrolls on the screen all the time. Funny how that was a higher priority <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> ) and more importantly no due date in sight on when it might be fixed, if they ever even had the intention of doing it in the first place!<br />So for this and other reasons I’ll be deleting this topic tomorrow!<br />Vlad...

I think they have bigger problems like getting the Billing and Encryption system in place first..

OK, Dan positive message here!<br /><br />Here you go .........<br /><br /><br />.<br /><br /><br />.<br /><br /><br />.<br /><br /><br />.<br /><br /><br />.<br /><br /><br />.<br /><br /><br />Ready?<br /><br />Set!<br /><br /><br />.<br /><br /><br />.<br /><br /><br />.<br /><br /><br />.<br /><br /><br />TV+ have exclusive right to broadcast TV Pink, TV BN and BK TV (atleast they say so)<br /><br />I think this is positive.<br /><br />Do you see any negativity here?<br /> <br /> <small>[ 12. January 2005, 08:04 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

Well congratulations!<br />Everyone…How ‘bout a big round of applause for Ja on this fine peace of “new” information…. NOT! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

klap klap klap

Ja, It might be too late for you as you have already joined TV plus, you've joined 4 weeks ago and paid them, you still havent even got your decoder box!<br /><br />What does that tell you???<br />United Broadcasting International has more channels so far than TV plus, eg Pink Extra is there already on Optus B3 and its not even on PAS8 yet!<br />If it was not legal UBI would not be doing it!<br />They say its so called 'exclusive' to make you rush and join their company, which you already have.

two more hours and...pop goes the topic <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

That's my problem. I was told when I joined that I will wait till arround 20-th of january for installation.<br />I agreed to that. If it does not bother me there is no need for you to be bothered by how I spend my money.<br /><br />I don't care if UBi has somme arabic channels etc.<br /><br />I was looking for balkan chann. spec pink, bn and bk and guess what, all three of them on their web sites (not tv+ site) say that tv+ is broadcasting them.<br />That's enough for me.<br /><br />Regarding the money?<br /><br />I don't care, I alredy lost everything I got in my life, house, job, country, I almoust lost my life, I was two times wounded in the balkan wars, you thinik I care about lousy 200$ after all this?<br /><br />No mate I really don't.

Ja I think your english is improving greatly!<br />I don't think you can find the world 'lousy' in the grammer check <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />Well done.

well correct me than, I hate oppening microsoft word every 2 seconds .......

1:30 mins to go...have your whinge folks...step right up, step right up!<br /><br />Tick, tock, tick, tock <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Darth .... my mouse is ready on "new topic" ......<br /><br />tick tack

yeah you might as well start the new topic, as it seems your doing all the talking/typing here anyway... I just want to clear rubish I've started, from this forum!

Ok. Closing it for tonight. Tomorrow I'll delete it.<br />Night all!

Ok,<br />In light of some fact’s I’ve been pondering over this morning, I have decided to leave this topic open.<br />Fact 1 is the legal issue of the Balkans feeds being pirated by UBI for which there is overwhelming evidence to support this claim.<br />I still don’t totally agree with only one provider holding exclusive rights to particular content but it’s ethics that are now in question. <br />UBI is clearly involved in theft and now if one couples that with what the same mob did whilst known as TARBS it makes me sick in the stomach to know that they were and still are involved in dishonest activities.<br />TV+ has at least, gone about it the right way (so far). They legally purchased the rights to the broadcast, be that exclusive <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> , but they did it the right way. All this does take time and when you couple that with TV+, probably having to prepare some form of legal case against content thieves, it can be taking quite a bit of resources.<br />Also they are converting all their boxes from the crap MDS’s to brand new I2 boxes. That also costs money and puts any legal issues with ex TARBS equipment, to rest.<br />So, to cut a long story short, I’m prepared to give TV+ a fair go. They seem to have their hands full, all in a bid to do it proper.<br />One comment I have for now is that there should be more heads up about the status. Obviously the non sensitive bits <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong> That's my problem. I was told when I joined that I will wait till arround 20-th of january for installation.<br />I agreed to that. If it does not bother me there is no need for you to be bothered by how I spend my money.<br /><br />I don't care if UBi has somme arabic channels etc.<br /><br />I was looking for balkan chann. spec pink, bn and bk and guess what, all three of them on their web sites (not tv+ site) say that tv+ is broadcasting them.<br />That's enough for me.<br /><br />Regarding the money?<br /><br />I don't care, I alredy lost everything I got in my life, house, job, country, I almoust lost my life, I was two times wounded in the balkan wars, you thinik I care about lousy 200$ after all this?<br /><br />No mate I really don't. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Then why do you care this much WHO has the rights for those channells?<br /> <br /> <small>[ 13. January 2005, 08:12 AM: Message edited by: fsking ]</small>

Fsking I don't.<br />I care only who lies to people.<br /><br /><br />Darth ..... finally something we agree on.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Fact 1 is the legal issue of the Balkans feeds being pirated by UBI for which there is overwhelming evidence to support this claim.<br />I still don’t totally agree with only one provider holding exclusive rights to particular content but it’s ethics that are now in question. <br />UBI is clearly involved in theft and now if one couples that with what the same mob did whilst known as TARBS it makes me sick in the stomach to know that they were and still are involved in dishonest activities.<br /></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I put my signature on your last post.

No, no, no...<br />That's my post and my signature.<br />I certainly didn't ask for anyone’s stamp of approval.

Mate, Ja's stamp of approval elevates your moderator status.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />Another Nasa tick perphaps <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />