</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Boring:<br /><strong> Darth<br /><br />Cheapest Dreambox is the DM-500 @$350 new , great little box , works perfect on card sharing.<br /><br />I picked one up for $300 via a bulk buy on Austech.info </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes thats cheap<br />And when you look at it some outlets around Australia were getting rid of the old model DM 7000 for around $650. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br />But For me via reports from many forums Austech.info is the best place to buy them for many reasons.<br />It also has a Forum just for Dreambox only where you can get help as long as you don't post about Card Sharing thats under the counter via PM's. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 17. January 2005, 08:40 AM: Message edited by: Phil Debono ]</small>

Fred, you're getting nowhere with this story. The Serbs have already proven themselves with Tarbs, they subscribed legally in droves and they'll do it again, just don't piss them off.

Phil, my point had nothing to do with their intention to use the dishes/dreamboxes or hiding the staff, even giving silly answers, but rather, the way how Fred describes them like dump/stupid ppl plus generalising the issue. Thats all I was asking him to realise. Others, very well known by all of us and for sure have no disagrement about.

You must admit it was a silly thing to do, you hide the box but you leave the ir on the table?<br />I would get a laugh out of that

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Liski:<br /><strong> mrgood,<br /><br />TARBS is long gone. Dead!<br /><br />UBI is a new venture by the former owner of TARBS and multiple private investors. Do you think Mr B wanted TARBS gone? No! If you were on L6 on the last day of TARBS you would know the full story. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Give me a break Liski, Mr B planned to have Tarbs failed from the very beginning otherwise why had he set it up in such a way that there were minimal assets owned by it, only the liabilities that were eventually written off (in his pocket).

Phil, As you may know by now, I like to see the ppl as friends rather than enemies here. If by anyone, any ethnic claim/blame/joke is made than the words must be said before it gets too far.

Fred,<br /><br /><br />Let’s assume a person is watching Austar and i701 so on and so forth, with a dreambox. Now let’s assume he gets another dish and want’s you to direct it to PAS8. Now he doesn’t know you from a bar of soap. Why the hell wouldn’t he hide his dreambox? In this case it worked out he actually had good reason. Now this is irrespective of wether he actually had in mind to pirate TV+ in the first place. The fact is, you should have come to do what he called you and paid you to do. He did not want you to broadcast what set up you found at his home, which you did anyway!<br /><br />That's why he hid the box! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

20th tmr will tv plus encrypt there channels or will it encrypt in a few days time?? <br /><br />read somewere on this forum it would happen on the 20th or 25th ?? anyone know if this is goin to happen?

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Today is 20th of Jan. 2005. Expected encryption date for TV+...Any delays? or good news? I think, ppl need to see more quality than blank screens...My opinion...Regards to all..

just checked tv plus pas8 channels everything stil FTA<br /> <br /> <small>[ 20. January 2005, 07:34 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

TV+ still FTA, still terrible Audio/Video... Still same channels...<br /><br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

Wait till 12am midninght, things might have a changeover to a new era.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by fsking:<br /><strong> Wait till 12am midninght, things might have a changeover to a new era. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Change? Like what? Maybe a new (promised) Balkan Channels? Maybe with Audio/Video worth watching/listening?<br />Or maybe they'll hide behind encrypted signal <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 20. January 2005, 12:47 PM: Message edited by: YU4CFG ]</small>

Why being so negative towards TV+? And they haven't hurt anyone yet. You all sound like UBI's reps.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nick:<br /><strong> Why being so negative towards TV+? And they haven't hurt anyone yet. You all sound like UBI's reps. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Negative? I've just stated the obvious... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br />Or maybe you are satisfied with the A/V quality? Maybe you can see some of promised channels? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" /> <br />I want TV+ to be as good as UBI (or better)<br />I want TV+ to show same number of Balkan Channels (or more) than UBI<br />Than, we (subscribers) will benefit because if those two companies are offering the same, they'll have to think of something to attract new subscribers like lowering fees or providing more channels...etc

Couple weeks ago nobody argued about the quality when UBI were in front of others. Now suddenly the quality is an issue when UBI are threatened. I'm sure you guys would quickly come up with a new issue if the quality was fixed just to continue hammering TV+.<br />I repeat what I said before, strategically for TV+ the quality is not important at the moment. This war will be won over other far more important issues.