Admin,<br /><br />I know that you've been directed to this post so that you can react exactly the way you just did. You have obviously taken the bait on this one.<br /><br />Can you please leave us moderators to moderate. If you feel the need to intervene, then a PM would suffice as this undermines our authority. This is not at all professional from you. Don’t just pull rank whenever someone runs to you winging, man!<br /><br />Free speech is one thing, this clearly has nothing to do with free speech, nor taking the right away. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

Dear admin,<br /><br />With this action, you have obviously displayed that you lack the necessary qualifications to administer a forum. How you got to the position of admin, god only knows.<br /><br />It is sickening to serve under an administration where admins don’t protect their own moderators and clearly undermine their authority. Therefore I hereby resign from moderator. Could you please remove me from moderator on both forums effective immediately.<br /><br />Good luck!

THE ADMIN<br /><br />how can u be a Admin when u have been only a member of this forum for only about 3 months and ur post count is 11 ??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br /><br />i have been a member for nearly a year now and my post count 1466 posts how does this work??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 18. January 2005, 06:13 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

He is obviously an adolescent which knows nothing about the chain of command. God forbid he be a commander of an army!

I told you before in my post when debono atacked satfreak for editing his message.<br /><br />there is no free speech here.<br /><br />There is no good organisation.<br /><br />Admins stick their noses in moderators business and moderators are afraid or unsure how to do their job because of that.

Lazer<br />I have been asked to supervise the forum while the owner is away, And I personally know the Owner.<br />Like I said Debono got into trouble because of Editing and removing post, now he removes nothing!<br />So you want to follow the same path?.<br />Only personal attacks and Advertising will be allowed to be removed this is not underminding your Authority, If its good for Debono not to remove anything its good enough for the others.<br />Did he remove the Letter About TVPlus ordering UBI to stop transmitting the Balkans channels in the UBI forum or others The answer is NO.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by THE ADMIN:<br /><strong><br />So you want to follow the same path?.<br /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">wat do u mean by this ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 19. January 2005, 07:14 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

Admin rulz !!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <br /><br />I don't care what is topic about as far i've got fun reading it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />Now that Darth has resigned, I would like to see ja as new moderator. He is person of great integrity and has much experience in managing a forum, as a moderator and even an administrator and i think he has earned that with his contribution to success of this forum.<br /><br />Let's vote for ja as a new moderator of this forum @!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" />

THE ADMIN<br /><br />Take note that I was asked by David C to run and work this seperate forum and having seen the posts of two experienced forum users "DARTH VADER" as well as "Lazar" stating that they will / would delete posts that they have issues with I will do the same. <br /><br />Dont take this personally but you have only just arrived on the block with your 12 posts and all.<br /><br />I have just re-read my PM from David C from late December 04 and my appointment as Moderator to this forum clearly says "..let the new one run as the moderator(s) want..."<br /><br />Vlad "Darth V" and I are running this forum as we see fit and if he or I choose to delete anything we will do so. Further I will support Darth in any statment or decision he makes as to date all his statments and actions have been honest, reliable and consise. Likewise I believe the same would be said by him regarding me if I deleted / edited any posts.<br /><br />Dont come here stating what you will and wont do as my mandate was made clear before this new forum was setup.<br /><br /> Let it be clear to the forum Darth and I will do our jobs and nobody will get in our way and that will be the end of the discussion.<br /> <br />OK

Further it is of sum shock that DARTH VADER has tendered is resignation.<br /><br />UNFORTUNATLY YOUR RESIGNATION IS NOT ACCEPTED BY THE BOARD.<br /><br />Pull up a chair and resume your rightful place colleague.<br /><br />I personally will not allow the seat to be filled and if anybody dares to take the seat there will be no more information or feedback from the WMI, TV+, Horizon PanGlobal camp etc.<br /><br />Get my drift....

mrgood stop joking, I would not take moderator place here not even for "brdo bombona".<br /><br />Satfreak, great posts.<br />Only chance here for moderators is to stick togheter and act as one. Untill they all get removed .....

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Satfreak:<br /><strong> Get my drift.... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Unfortunately , your only drift is to line your own pockets via TV+ Satfreak.That was obvious since day one.<br /><br />Ja , it would be hard to find a bigger moron than yourself. You bitch about Freedom of Speech , and then when Darth Vader says he will remove posts he doesnt like you AGREE with it ?<br /><br />And now Satfreak claims that he has a " licence to delete whatever he likes " and he is a company representative.<br /><br />This mess needs to be sorted out and some clear rules put in to place for everyone , not just thosae that wish to line their own pockets with their company propaganda.

THE ADMIN, <br />I think the way you handled the situation is a bit tough and totally WRONG!. I was expecting THE ADMIN or The Owner of this forum to send email/PM if there is any issue to be resolved rather than discussing the matter in public and killing the moderator's image infront of the members.<br /><br />Satfreak, <br />I agree that the forum needs good ppl to moderate as well as exchange the info/knowledge. I can understand what you feel and share the upsetting news. My friend, there is also me appointed as moderator last week and forgotten by you when you mentioned that the forum run by two of you!<br /><br />Darth Vader, <br />Please calm down and re-think what you need to do before its too late. It's not the way how a professional guy like you, handles the problem when there is a disagreement on a subject. I will request a review on the matter from THE ADMIN and corrections to be made afterwards...<br />Thanks...

I'm away and there is another shit fight, here I am and I was toasted for editing post,deleting post, and banning post, now after speaking to D Cottle I now do nothing of the three above.<br />So now we have others that have taken over my position for being a AXE man. So what is it boys we all do it my way or do I go back to the dark days where I delete what I want.<br />I think its time to have a vote via a poll on new moderators on the Both Pay Tv forum and only neutral people allowed to Moderate these forums.<br />I don't work for UBI Period Satfreak Works or is closely related to TV Plus and in my eyes its a conflick of interest to this group of forums.<br />Phil

I will stand down as Moderator Of the UBI forums and to be far so will Satfreak, and since Lazer bough up a good point via a PM I think only members say Under<br />Membership number 700 will be concidered, why they were here before UBI/and TV Plus were <br />What do you think! this is the best way to solve this problem

Ok Phil, I'll resign from the moderator duty to make it available for the old members. Thanks...

I agree with Phil on this one, No industry to Moderate the forums, Phil works for himself, you can clearly see that Satfreak has a relation with this TV plus company and he should not be allowed to moderate anything. Tell me Satfreak because a lot of us would like to know this, why are you so desperate to moderate this forum?

Foe me I don't want to do it, I have been on this site for years, either neutral moderators or have none at all for the Pay TV Forums.

Ok This forum was setup by David C in discussion with Me and others.<br /><br />I was asked to Mod it and be able to provide a fair alternative view to what Liski and other PRO UBI's were providing.<br /><br />You all forgot this was setup at the time when I was banned from the UBI forum, and this was supposed to be the alternative managed by the alternative.<br /><br />The list went quite for a few weeks cause of what happened on the UBI forum now things are starting to pickup.<br /><br />This is the TV+ and other Providers forum if you dont like it and want to go to another forum do so.<br /><br />If somebody wants my head come get it. I dont intend to resign as this forum has been built by me, vlad and a few small others.<br /><br />Again I hope Vlad re consideres his position. <br /><br />Oh and fsking no need for you to resign either. <br /><br />Further everybody can stop this waste of time discussion as It has nothing to do with the topic.<br /><br />Hence I am closing the topic.<br /><br />Rgs

Well I'm opening it for one minute again Satfreak!.<br />So do we do It? I'm prepared to remove myself from the UBI moderators if you are prepared to do the same in this forum, C'mon show that you have no ties, give me the word Satfreak and I will remove the both of us holding hands together.<br />Its your call Satfreak are you really so desperate to keep this Moderator Position set by you from D Cottle.