Since this morning (9 Feb 2005 AEST), all is showing on WMI is the PAS8 promo crap (on all 9 channels.) I haven't been able to contact WMI as their lines are engaged (bastards!)<br /><br />Any idea?

Yes you have to turn the card around and put it back in<br /><br />then go to Menu Pin 0000 select auto scan...<br /> you should see wmi channels from 25-32 message SHOULD say e16... after 5 mins the channels should come up

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Dan04:<br /><strong> Yes you have to turn the card around and put it back in<br /><br />then go to Menu Pin 0000 select auto scan...<br /> you should see wmi channels from 25-32 message SHOULD say e16... after 5 mins the channels should come up </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Turn the card around?! WHat do you mean? Do you mean take it out and put it back in?

yes take card out.... turn it around then put it back in.... close the lid... go to menu (installations) pin 0000 select auto scan then you will see wmi channels names... after 5 minutes the channels should come up

Dan,<br /><br />I just don't understand what you mean by "turn it around." DO you mean back to front, or up-side-down (for example!) Which way should the SIM be facing, up or down? Should the SIM go into the slot first or will be closer to the lid?

up side down

Should the SIM (metal part on the bottom of the card) be facing up or down?

should be facing down... you should see the picture of the card as you are putting it in

Cool. I think that's how I've got (I'm at work now, that's why I can't tell which way it is now!)<br /><br />Thanks for your help. I just can't understand why the fuck wits (WMI) didn't tell us about this fucking procedure when they encrypt!<br /> <br /> <small>[ 09. February 2005, 02:46 PM: Message edited by: pkid ]</small>

Its very easy to do if you can't call them.. but yeah its wrong they should inform people..

I know it's easy to do it, but I just can't accept the poor service. A while ago, I asked them if they would tell us when the service would be encrypted. They said yes. However, they didn't. We woke up in the morning and there was nothing except the stupid promo! I try to call them, and their numbers are engaged!!<br /><br />Any way. I'll fix it up when I go back home.<br /><br />Thanks again for your help mate.

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Dan04! do you know what encryption they use it looks like IRDETO2 any Idea?

yes same encryption as there using on PAS2 Captain Irdeto 2 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Hey Lazer thanks for your pm, if the encryption they use is Irdeto2 why they sold people receiver from WMI and din't allow people to use their own receivers?

dont know some ppl dnt like the idea of purchasing a reciever just for there service when they already have one but the PAS8 service they will not sell u a card only u have to purchase the box and get the card with it or else they will not let u connect to there service without there equipment its not like the PAS2 service which they only supply u with a card which is a better idea and convienient for most ppl as some already have a capable reciever or using a irdeto card

Yep you are right but anyway Irdeto is better than MDS you can always put your Irdeto card in any decent receiver.<br /><br /><br />Regards<br />Captain

Captain how much does WMI charge you for the PAS2 service?

Hi Dan They charge me $240/year for LBC,ART,Al Jazeera, 3 channels.

Thats good Captain <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Its quite simple why pay tv companys don't allow you to sub with your own box. The hassles involved in supporting every no name decoder on the market.<br /><br />"Sir your using a Nokia?? It won't work on your phone you need a satellite decoder..."

"Does satellite decoders make phone calls and take pictures as well" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

The new Dreambox model will come close to it.

Except, it won't make your coffee...and relax you in bed...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Captain:<br /><strong> ... if the encryption they use is Irdeto2 why they sold people receiver from WMI and din't allow people to use their own receivers? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">WHat I was told (when I asked the same question a while ago) is that they were going to marry up the card to the box. So, my understanding is their card will not work with other boxes!

Its bull...If its Ird2 system with no extra additional encryption system than there is no card marrying process with the box...Its all crap..

The only thing that IRD2 is married to is card sharing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

Yeah thats the one I missed... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 10. February 2005, 02:54 PM: Message edited by: fsking ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Big Chief:<br /><strong> The only thing that IRD2 is married to is card sharing <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Don't forget the Dreambox <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by pkid:<br />[/qb]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">So, my understanding is their card will not work with other boxes! [/QB][/QUOTE]<br /><br />Close.The box will not work with other cards.