justice for all....I know there are some very decent people that are in the docs.....but the bullies soon stand over them.....and why arent they doing something internally....because they too would lose their jobs......too many mistakes are being made at the expense of innocent children already traumatised...and whatever happened to the families of these children.....why is it so neccessary for them to shift these children from carer to carer, instead of leaaving them with relative carers or carers they first place them with? It would seem they dont like that idea at all.

Do any of you have any idea what they put grandparent carers through.......these people are elderly and not able to tolerate their antics as such....but they tear their lives apart too....and they too are family.

By bullies do you mean people in charge or other CSO's?

For things to change internally there needs to be changes made by the poers that be (ie the government). Yes I agree major changes need to be made and they needed to be made yesterday! This issue is as well, where do you start? It's going to be such a monumental task but definately one that is needed.

You'd be surprised how hard it is to lose a job with the government...

Children shift from different carers for a number of reasons. I believe that continuity is important for children no matter in who's care they are. Sometimes they are moved for the wrong reasons and sometimes they are moved because of situations that are out of Child Safety's control. Relative carers are so important to children. I say they should be the first option every time, permitting that they are a safe option of course.

in all the two years dealing i had with them, the cSO's were as bad....near the end there was one who told me she was disgusted at what they were doing and that was the only one....and i had dealings with many of them.....youd of heard of the mob they themselves tagged the gay brigade.....they used to turn up to mermaid beach in a bus......
All the carers I have spoken with seem to believe they do not like children to normalise....and what about removing these children from grandparents.......what a cop out saying sometimes....they are shoved around all the time.
one just needs to sit in at the depts meetings with foster and relative carers to know the govs antics......the problem is there are the wrong people in that dept and still today children are suffering more for it. Go sit in some of the support groups of relative carers....some have had two children suicide because of incompetence in that dept......and they are afraid to stand up to them....because of the threat of having thier grandchildren taken.....CSOs are known even to drop these children at three years old outside a day care to find their own way in.....there are many cases that went before the cmc in 2004, mine included.....and what a whitewash
Half the time you never know who youre dealing with.....I can name over ten of them.....

And the government are still placing Aboriginal children in white homes....i guess the lost generation thing is still an ongoing affair with gov......no matter what culture a person is from....shame shame shame....sorry doesnt cut it with me, any more than it does with the Aboriginal people.

I think they have the attitude that a home is home.

But that's the wrong way to look at things, especially when dealing with indigenous children who come from homes where beliefs are different.

How can a white family educate and support an Aboriginal child in the Aboriginal "way"? They can't without specialist training and they certainly don't get that.

Of course children are the same regardless of their colour, but ethnic beliefs and religions and that kind of thing need to be practiced or else these children lose their heritage.

it sort of breaches their own code of (supposed) ethics doesnt it...and what about the psycs who judge a culture they have no knowledge about.....it certainly makes Rudd look stupid in his apology statement doesnt it...

It does breach their code of ethics... Not that they religiously abide by it anyway.

Their base line is that a child needs to be placed with a family and any family will do.

Sacrifice of indigenous or ethnic ways is collateral damage.

The end result is DoCS spending more tax payer's money to locate a resource to bring on board to help support the white family in the care of an indigenous or ethnic child... IF they can find one or even bother to try.

DoCS workers are all Bob the Builders. Except that they are ignorant to the fact that a lot of things are normal and don't need to be fixed.

Getting back to the original thread topic...

What's wrong with Child Safety is that it is the ONLY system that we have... It's all we've got.

The system is screwed up, it's full of workers expected to make decisions that they're not qualified/trained to make and it's full of workers who are given carte blanche instead of following the rules of engagement as they are written.

As I said in a previous post... Changes need to be made at a base level... At the root of the evil.

When laws and guidelines are tightened and changed it leaves no room for interpretation... Therefore CSOs and their supervisors can NOT interpret them how THEY see fit.

Once things MUST be followed as they are set out, this in itself will evoke change.

i'll second that

One of the hardest things to do will be to make them understand that change to the system is not regression.

It is clarifying the road to enhance progress.

It's all about progress... How many children have been "saved", how many parents/families have been "helped"... What a fantastic job DoCS is doing and how well they are doing it.

Kudos to justify the DoCS existance. An entity that requires progress to continually succeed.

Governmental bodies will not embrace anything that smells of regression. Chiseling through the ignorance to have light dawn on the ability to improve progress is the key.

Showing them that changes and tweaks will only enhance progress is imperative.