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I have tried SBS, Insight, and request for this, only to be told, the story is not worthy. same for 60minutes. they couldnt careless. ABC, pfffftttt,
maybe when i sent them yesterday a invite to here, maybe they read and rethink
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The media won't touch anything like this when it comes from a single family because they hear it all the time and doesn't have enough shock value.
At the end of the day, the media - especially TV - are looking for the ratings and they want the stories that will make their ratings skyrocket.
And a parent doesn't want to write a single letter or email... They want to knock on the TV station's door with a group of other parents and refuse to leave until somebody (preferably a producer) listens to what they have to say.
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shame on the media.... I believe many have tried that avenue....and they are contolled by gov......it is the international media that is needed to get aus media to go with it....then you have to be careful , as their interviews are set up to make people look like fools......look what they did to Pauling Hanson and others that try to stand up for what is right and just.
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I'm not going to get into politics, but Pauline Hanson went about a few things the wrong way and it came back to bite her hard on the butt.
Journalists will certainly try to obtain something juicy that they can use to skew a story, but the object would be not to give them anything and to stick to the topic.
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I wish I could vot for 3 other offices I've had crap dealings with but where i voted I must admit takes the cake!
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I wish I could vot for 3 other offices I've had crap dealings with but where i voted I must admit takes the cake! If we did that we would not be able to see where the real diseases are. You never know I might start another poll in the next few weeks
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Yeh how many offices people have dealt with when being involved with DChS or something like it...but this poll is getting mightily interesting...I do think a couple of lawyers I know voted...yes yes, they call DChS 'the Unreasonables', they'll know who they are now...
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Interesting to see small places/offices like Mackay and Rockhampton South have gotten votes. Obviously it doesn't matter how small the office is, they still damage someone.
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we all must remember the people on this forum are approximately .0001% of what is happening out there, but it is still an indication. Now what gets my attention is some of the poorer areas and the housing commission areas or high aboriginal public housing areas don't even get a vote, or if they do get a vote, they don't vote that high. Like I said yesterday, the Caboolture office seems to have a more congenial name for itself. Who knows, we might have some compassionate CSO's out there, who are really doing the right thing, or is it a case that the poor people out there can't afford computers?
I would love to get every person thats had anything to do with DOCS and have had problems with them and I would ask them to be honest and post one post and poll on this site, just to see if there is a pattern to where the problem CSO's are. Again, Pine Rivers, thats not a big area and some of the areas are posh areas. Is it a case that some of these CSO's resent people with money?
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I do know of some parents dealing with DoCS who don't own computers.
But I Hate I think you have a river of truth there in what you have said about certain areas or races not being touched by DoCS... But I can't pinpoint a reason for it. I can't even hazard a guess.
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I have sent the last of the emails out this morning and last night to catch those that Joined aus-city donkeys ago but have never posted, lets see what we get as in all i sent over 300 emails out to these members.
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Well I have to admit, there has been a growth to the poll since I voted!
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Yes I noticed that myself.
I also did the map for P4P last night and got it onto a page for the site and nearly every one of the rogue offices is on top of the next... All in the same vicinity.
It's so bad, that some of the office dots have been completely wiped out by other office dots.
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yep, the Gold coast is off the map.......
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I've discovered that we all need to move to NT border. LOL
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I dunno....theyre having their fair of troulble out there....and not happy re the invasion.....
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Things are slowing down in the poll and It looks like Pine Rivers is going to win the award.
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Oh no give it time...the word about the poll is still yet to get out there! It's the weekend, let's see what next weeks produces with everyone not working!
I'm still sending the word out...
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I love this shit My office of shame looks like winning.
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Do you know that Pine Rivers child safety covers a high percentage of Acreage areas so in real life this make them even worst per head per SqKm.
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I'm dying to know WHY this particular office is so bad.
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My solicitor told me its the worst office in Brisbane. By the way my solicitor is 55 years old or around that age so I would have to say he has been around the traps to give me a conclusion about this.
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Hey and get this I have been told that Petrie Jab are under the thumb from them.
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Nothing surprises me.
My barrister commented the other day that she's glad that we're not dealing with Mermaid Beach office. I burst her bubble by saying the Labrador staff came from Mermaid Beach.
Mermaid Beach is up there in the rankings as well.
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You tell your barrister that there is a office worst than Mermaid Beach or Labrador and that is Pine Rivers. Yep i'm one that voted for them and i hope its the last time we ever see or hear from them. Centrelink is across the road from them and one of the social workers told my wife thats its not unusual for families to come to centrelink seeking help because of child safety across the road. By the way guys I told the boss to stick it as I don't like people talking about me behind my back.
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My barrister works all over the show, so she probably deals with families from Pine Rivers as well.
She likely just referred to Mermaid Beach as it's another Gold Coast DoCS office and clearly the worst on the Coast.
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Hey and get this I have been told that Petrie Jab are under the thumb from them. I would like to add to this not only they are under the thumb the docs bitch from Pine Rivers is back stabbing the cop from jab at Petrie. Maybe i should ring Constable P and tell her what she said about her family as i overheard her say to wake up to herself for her own problems. This is something that i never expected as to hear bitching going on between docs and jab
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Nothing surprises me.
I'd set up a meeting with her and if she doesn't know you, give her a fictitious name (to protect your DoCS case) and tell her how "concerned" you are that you had overheard such comments and that you "understand office politics" but you "felt she had the right to know" due to the "lack of professionalism" in regard to a government office who is meant to be "working alongside JAB" in "the best interest of the children".
Lay it on thick.
You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.
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This is something that i never expected as to hear bitching going on between docs and jab
Oh it happens, and it happens a lot. You'll find that the Child Protection and Investigation Unit (CPIU) (or JAB as they were formally known) don't always agree with the decisions that are made by Child Safety and Child Safety don't always agree with the CPIU not charging people that they think need to be charged. There's a lot of animosity between them and it's only getting worse.
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well justice...if there were more people like you and others i know in tose dept,who would certainly turn around the dept.....then these sorts of issues would be at a minimum instead of rampart throughout the nation.....its all power games to these dolts....and bottom line is children and their families are suffering for it.
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You're right. There needs to be some changes and they need to happen from within the Department. But the only way to get those changes to happen is to make them realise what is going on. I'm sure there's Departmental workers who would agree that changes need to happen.
I have recently made friends with someone who used to work for the Department in the Central Queensland area. From what she has told me, she left the Department because she didn't agree with what was going on there. She didn't agree with decisions that were made and didn't like the fact that as the worker on the case she didn't have a say in what was the right outcome for the family. She herself said that there needs to be a lot of changes within the Department and that there are a lot of people working there who agree.
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This is something that i never expected as to hear bitching going on between docs and jab
Oh it happens, and it happens a lot. You'll find that the Child Protection and Investigation Unit (CPIU) (or JAB as they were formally known) don't always agree with the decisions that are made by Child Safety and Child Safety don't always agree with the CPIU not charging people that they think need to be charged. There's a lot of animosity between them and it's only getting worse. Well according to Child Safety once a notification goes in the person automatically has to be charged even if JAB (like I call them because they JAB a knife into your back) doesn't necessarily want to because of either weak or no evidence against the accused. Look at CROWS case its a fucking disgrace
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They are very aware of what has been and continues to go on justice......and it is inaction that has brought people to this point. even staff that are against what is going on are shut up and often shafted out.....there is a very unhealthy, evil elemnet in there...and that is what needs to be removed.....for all concerned....but as i said and say again....it is the agenda of the gov to break the family unit.....it is all one world gov stuff....and there are no morals or ethics in any of it.
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JAB won't even investigate a notification if there isn't enough to run with.
Mind you, I'm talking from experience in my own area.
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JAB won't even investigate a notification if there isn't enough to run with.
Mind you, I'm talking from experience in my own area.
That's right but sometime the run bit is the start of the lie and I'm also talking from experience. JAB or as some call them CPIU run very easliy as all you have to do is upset them or DOCS and the running starts " mind you without any evidence whatsoever full stop.
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Yes, I hear you.
With my case it started with JAB and migrated to DoCS and snowballed into a bucket load of bullshit.
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considering that the labrador and nerang offices came out of the mermaid beach office....it is certainly looking very sick indeed......
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And all 3 sharing one JAB office.
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I have heard of some very bad stories from this office in Straphpine from the government. Some lady at centrelink got very angry the other month and the staff said to her to quieten down otherwise we will call the police and all she did was scream abuse and pointed her finger to the office across the road saying bastards they are bastards they are and to hear the other foul language she said as in 20 years of myself going to pubs i v never heard a man spray language like this.
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