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The police trawling this Forum
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It has come to my attention via IP checks that the Police have been trawling this forum trying to identify anyone they can and ordering them off the forum.
Tell me Cops why don't you pass your fucking time chasing Pedophiles instead of chasing and harassing people on this forum.
ALL IP'S are logged and dated and kept for legal reason because if its true what you have done to these two members you need to be reported to the CMC.

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Re: The police trawling this Forum
I Hate GOV, DEPT #41145 Fri 31 Oct 2008 11:39:PM
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That's a bit scary isn't it! To think that we have to be careful that we might be 'found out' and told to get off the forum. How can they stop people from using it? Are they threatening to charge with something?

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now aint that just typical......scare tactics....oh you gov dolts.....lets sack the lot of you ....and you insensitive coppers.....go get a real job, cos you sure cant do the one youre doing .....you too forget, all those families you have framed or stood over years ago....the children of those families are now adults....and they remember the injustices done on their families....so how would or could you expect to be trusted......or even respected for that matter......

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My my I wonder whos feathers are ruffled.....hahahahaha

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They can't charge us with anything and they know it.

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That's about it
I think the poll done the trick!!
Now lets see what area it rates from.

Re: The police trawling this Forum
rainbowchaser #41154 Sat 01 Nov 2008 12:31:AM
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This topic bugs me and I'm going to get on my high horse about it!

And my horse is bloody high - if I might add!

Everything that goes through a police station, goes through a chain of command... It's standard police protocol.

Things continuously change hand until they reach their required destination.

Now from what I understand (and correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no expert) for a standard issue cop to be trawling a web site like this, it's completely out of their realm of jurisdiction.

What I mean is, to have a site like this observed it would need to be done via request through the CHAIN OF COMMAND to reach the DEPARTMENT in whatever police headquarters or investigation unit to then be handed to a particular POLICE IT EXPERT to have them carry out the initial written request... That can take months!

Then - once information is gathered (which is usually months, if not years of mounted documentation) the info is sent BACK UP the chain of command the same way it was sent down.

A standard issue police officer, detective or whomever can not sit on their work computer and observe a forum or X amount of forums because it is NOT in their job description... There is a process - a protocol for gathering such information.

It would seem to me that if information was gathered in such a way, it would likely not even be legal.

It certainly wouldn't be condoned by the upper echelon of the police hierarchy.

It would be in my opinion that anything gathered this way for use in a DoCS case would be solely used on the fact that a POLICE OFFICER obtained.

I don't think it would hold up in court... Especially if a savvy legal rep asked said police officer how he/she obtained the information.

A good legal rep would hammer the police officer at trial about carrying out a task that was not one of their duties.

And make the DoCS witness look like an idiot.

I believe it's all bluff.

Honestly, if they wanted to put a stop to certain people posting here, they would take their issue to the owner of the web site - not to the people posting.



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I think they are all running around like chooks with their heads choppe doff....that is about the depth of their intelligence......

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As a matter of interest for your members I was passed this on by one of our Lawyers for your members perusal.


http://www.cmc.qld.gov.au/data/portal/00000005/content/39921001136957889067.pdf

Also

http://www.police.qld.gov.au/aboutUs/the_service/structure/esc/

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I am familiar with a previous matter on this aus-city forum relating to a copyright infringement which I will not comment on but aus-city won.

If you read below down the bottom David Cottle explains very clearly that nobody and in this case that includes the Police or this Department of Child Safety is allowed to copy an individuals posts, (that includes screen shots) whatsoever without permission of an aus-city forum Admin.
If you look at the link below it states very clearly
regarding How do I avoid becoming the subject of a complaint. Now read item 6 and 7
http://www.cmc.qld.gov.au/data/portal/00000005/content/39921001136957889067.pdf

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You forgot to say it has to be written permission from the owner David Cottle.

So its simple if someone on this site is getting screwed by something that a member wrote on this forum that is not offensive in any way and this something is being used against the person by another (that means ANYONE) and they have taken copies which includes printing screen shots or what ever without being approved in writing by the owner he or she has broken copyright and appropriate action will be taken against this person.

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Re: The police trawling this Forum
ew_289 #41185 Sat 01 Nov 2008 02:54:PM
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Wow, what I thought was accurate pretty much was and if police officers/detectives are lurking at this forum, playing copy-and-paste then they're being very naughty.

Nice links EW - well done!!

Seems to me that now that everyone has had their eyes opened to a bit of legitimate legal documentation it may make the lurkers think twice about their antics.

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My guess is that in regard to DoCS/police it's a mud slinging exercise and if some of the mud sticks all the better.

But I suspect that we have been underestimated by those who are aiming to sling mud.


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Anyone of you losers that joins this forum with a sob story and if you're stupid enough to give details of who you're Child Safety will use this information against you.


Re: The police trawling this Forum
Julie #41342 Mon 03 Nov 2008 01:46:PM
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I do love the way Julie comes in and exhibits her ignorance. LOL

Great entertainment value.

She's not read the full thread properly.

I personally don't think a anyone should post about things involving laws if they don't have even a remote idea about the law.

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rainbowchaser #41347 Mon 03 Nov 2008 01:59:PM
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Just for you Julie -

Here's the child safety I practically use and have contact through - Toowoomba, now use your menacing, conniving, manipulating, lying and psychopathic skills to track me down and use it against me....quick, at the end of the day you and Child Safety have to answer to the Magistrate...Get past that one!



To trust means to be honest, to be honest means to trust! No way around it but DChS think they can. NOT!

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LovingMyKids #41355 Mon 03 Nov 2008 02:17:PM
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Um, yes... Yes, at the end of the day it is indeed up to the Magistrate!

I think people need to read a whole thread to get the flow of the conversation instead of butting in half cocked and making themselves look stupid.

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Hmm,


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child safety have their own laws tart.....and none of them are in the law books.....

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LOL

Thought you were calling me a tart for a moment there.

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lol no it was that julie....she is in here to try and do something....but all she is showing is that she is one of those inexperienced dolts the dept would embrace...if she wasnt already one of them......

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Originally Posted by Julie
Anyone of you losers that joins this forum with a sob story and if you're stupid enough to give details of who you're Child Safety will use this information against you.


Maybe I should have said nothing about the Copyright of material from this Aus-city site and wait for a sucker from the cops or jab to use it against a person.
I'm not saying more. but if anyone ever gets in the position above please contact me imminently.
forum.admin@aus-city.com

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Yes, I realised that. LOL

People shouldn't go off on a tangent about something unless they are in possession of facts.

I've not seen this person produce anything that would be considered fact.

The only thing I see is a need to stir the pot. And even then, it's not stirred very well.

Regardless, everything that is posted by this person means nothing to me except entertainment.

Ignorance is to be expected and we need to tolerate it and let it go.

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I Hate GOV, DEPT #41384 Mon 03 Nov 2008 06:29:PM
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Originally Posted by I Hate GOV, DEPT
Originally Posted by Julie
Anyone of you losers that joins this forum with a sob story and if you're stupid enough to give details of who you're Child Safety will use this information against you.


Maybe I should have said nothing about the Copyright of material from this Aus-city site and wait for a sucker from the cops or jab to use it against a person.


I wouldn't sweat it... People don't read the "fine print" and our friend has clearly not read previous posts on this thread.


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Originally Posted by rainbowchaser

Regardless, everything that is posted by this person means nothing to me except entertainment.



That's all just entertainment but on the other hand how many like her are already employed by DOCS.

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I Hate GOV, DEPT #41386 Mon 03 Nov 2008 06:35:PM
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Who knows... I believe anything is possible.

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what man is unable to undo and fix....nature sure will.......and it is happening more and more everyday.....

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Really, Theres police combing this forum..????

Okies, yo cops< im here, And I want to be investigated and questioned. I want you cops to come and raid my home for any child porno on my computer.
I want to be flogged and bashed by you guys to the inch of my Death. and ask me if I am a kid frked,.and Then Hear MY words,,,,,,NO, I am NOT.each time you hit me, that will be my only response, NO, I am NOT.

Just send me a message by email and I will be there.

and anyway, isnt the police force controlled by DOCS?????.



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DocSniper #41390 Mon 03 Nov 2008 07:33:PM
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Hmm, the police certainly are influenced by DoCS.

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Originally Posted by DocSniper


and anyway, isnt the police force controlled by DOCS?????.




In my case I think it was. The F.O.I just about said that.

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I really can't comment.

I've not been down that road much.

What I did see I didn't like - but that wasn't centred around DoCS issues, that was around criminal issues.

But what I did see of JAB reaction to my continuing DoCS issues was more a sense of "Damn, sorry to hear that".

But in my situation, I was not the "baddie" so they had nothing against me in a personal or professional manner.


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So what you're trying to say is that your problem was mainly to do with child safety and not with the police.
Do you know if child safety tried to involve the police to have you charged because I know another that had similar circumstances like this.

If you weren't charge was any other member of your family charged?

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Sorry Michelle, whom are you asking?

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I think Michelle is talking about you.
Michelle use the Quote option it makes it easier to identify who you are referring too.

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Tell me Michelle! what dreaded office did you tangle with.
Just PM me

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Silly Q:
What if I got all my documents, from docs indicating their claims and what they State I have done. and march into the cop shop and demand to be questioned and interviewed. and or Charged.....?.
Logical thinking tells me, they would have to.
but we all know, the cops hold no logics.
They rather be controlled and ordered what to do by DOCS.
Even in townsville, If I ring any government body for help, that government body that I rang, must now inform DOCS that I have rang. who is controlling who...????.

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They would probably tell you GO HOME SIR!! you haven't broken any of our laws but DOCS being LEGENDS IN THEIR OWN MINDS would say that you have broken 100 of theirs.

Do you know this if a Child Sleeps in your bed because its scared of storms or whatever that is CHILD ABUSE!!!!! and not encouraged by DOCS!!
YES THESES DOCS MOLES TOLD MY 8 YEARS OLD THIS and tried to use this against my wife, not me my WIFE!!!!!!You FUCKING RAGS!!

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Mind you if you wipe your child arse more that 3 times that's called Sexual Abuse, Heaven forbid, don't come close to that front area, that's defiantly child sexual abuse. Don't even look at your child naked or let your child see you even half naked because according to DOCS that's GROOMING!!!

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The Public today have not got a clue how FUCKED DOCS ARE.

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