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This Child was in the care of Families SA, I am sure you heard about the bashing of the Flamingo, well, it states that Child in question is now being sent on a trip to his mothers place in Sydney, and Families SA, are providing the funds for him to travel. Now is this passing the buck? they are in the paper once again, and they are failing considerably, they take the children and put them in homes that which abuse the children.

IF THE PROBLEM GETS TO HARD FOR THEM WHAT DO THEY DO, SEND HIM AWAY!!!!

NOW THATS FAMILIES SA FOR YOU



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NSW holiday for Adelaide Zoo flamingo bashing accused

TAXPAYERS will pay for one of the alleged Adelaide Zoo flamingo bashers to travel to New South Wales to visit his mother.

The 17-year-old appeared briefly in Adelaide Youth Court today on a charge of aggravated ill-treatment of an animal.

The youth, who cannot be named, is one of four teens charged over the attack on the half-blind flamingo at Adelaide Zoo last month.

The flamingo, believed to be about 78 years of age and one of the oldest in the world, suffered injuries to its head in the daylight attack.

Zoo officials continue to keep a close eye on the bird, which has been one of the zoo's main attractions since the 1930s.

The youth's lawyer Stephen Ey told the court that his client would be pleading not guilty to the charge.

"My client instructs, and from the limited information that I have, that the matter will be contested," Mr Ey said.

Judge Stephen McEwen varied the youth's bail conditions to allow him to travel to Concord in NSW later this month to visit his mother.

The boy is a ward of the state and will be accompanied on his trip by a Families SA social worker.

"He is under a guardianship order ... and I understand that (Families SA) will be picking up the tab for him to travel," Mr Ey said.

The teenager will appear in court again next month along with another of his co-accused, also aged 17.

Two adults, aged 18 and 19, are listed to appear in Adelaide Magistrates Court in February.


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How exactly is Families SA responsible for this child attacking the animal? Did they make him do it? Did they take his hand and hit it against the animal?

If this child was in the care of his parents i'm sure you'd blame them too for this child doing this.

Why shouldn't the child visit his mother? Chances are it was organised before he did this. Chances are it's for christmas. Wouldn't you want to see your child if they were in care, regardless of what they have done? If your child was in care you'd expect them to pay the bill to send them to you. So how is this any different?

It's not, you're nit picking.

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Originally Posted by JusticeForAll
How exactly is Families SA responsible for this child attacking the animal? Did they make him do it? Did they take his hand and hit it against the animal?

If this child was in the care of his parents i'm sure you'd blame them too for this child doing this.



Ouch, is someone on their Rags?.

I think your missing the point. They had control, or thought they had control. Cos, Why?, They Docs are Controllers, Same for a Parent, They thing they have control, but how can any parent control a 17 yr old, Not easy ay, more so if he is so hell bent to rebel.
DOCS, They lay claim to control,as this is their Job.
Now who normally would pay for his trip?. His mum, Ay... But, this is not the case is it, DOCS are wasting money where money of that nature can goto better use.

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This child was taken from the mother, dont have the resources as to why, but this child was supposed to be in the care of Families SA, they dont follow up on these children, and think taking them away from their parents, they are doing ok, this is an example of many that the Department take and do nothing about....

I am not blaming the parents at all, but to punish him, which is what SA public wanted, they are rewarding him with a visit to his mother.

This child did a horrific thing, but to reward him is not right....
I think DS summed it up in a nutshell.


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So if a parent can't control a child then how can DOCS? And why should DOCS be expected to control them?

They didn't send him away either. He's going to VISIT his mother. Yes his mother would usually pay for the trip, but a child who is in the long term care of DOCS has all their needs paid for by....DOCS! There's no way his mother is going to pay for his flight when she doesn't have to.

I don't see it as wasting money. It's money that's allowing a mother to have contact with her child who lives in another state.

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As there is a Child care crisis happening,and centers are closing down, heres food for thought.

Let the department of child safety/Family Sa become that child care service, and let the Cops, As JABs and Child protection units conduct their Job, and Investigate in the right manner.
This also will include a investigation into the notifier and if found to be misleading, then a jail time. no if's or but's. ya tampering with Souls of families that should be classed as sacred.

Next week, Im going to have some fun with the QLD police. lol, cant buck pass me this time....


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hahahha. That's is just laughable.

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Dont you think DOCS should follow up every child with whom they are placing into carers homes. You dont know the reasons why this child was removed from the parent, so how can you ask the question.

If DOCS remove the children they are taking responsibility of them, YES Docs should be expected to control them. They have taken this child and the responsibility.

Shouldnt they be up for NEGLECT!!!!

Shouldnt this be a standard ruling, to make sure they arent abused in any manner, make sure they are settling in their new home. They should have a follow up system in place, to make sure the child isnt suffering. But they are so understaffed and waste their time on cases that shouldnt be.

They have custody of that child, isnt it the same as the parent.

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Originally Posted by JusticeForAll
So if a parent can't control a child then how can DOCS? And why should DOCS be expected to control them?

They didn't send him away either. He's going to VISIT his mother. Yes his mother would usually pay for the trip, but a child who is in the long term care of DOCS has all their needs paid for by....DOCS! There's no way his mother is going to pay for his flight when she doesn't have to.

I don't see it as wasting money. It's money that's allowing a mother to have contact with her child who lives in another state.


Ya beginning to sound like a Sharon.

Really they can waste that money like that.Ay.

then why cant I get to see my son over the Xmas so called festive fripping Holidays ?.

same distance. why, cant they fly me or him up here and set me up in a motel room,Huh?.
why cant they afford to fly me down to the next court date, they know I have no money.

Get out of the Kitty litter.


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How is a child who has harmed an animal a case of neglect?!?! If anything it's a case of physical harm against the Flamingo! Maybe that should be investigated!

You don't know why the child did it. You don't know that the child was abused or wasn't settled into his new home. You don't even know how long the child has been in care.

As a parent I thought you would know that you can't always control children, especially teenagers.

If this report was about a child in the care of his parents, you'd be reacting differently. But because it's about Families SA and you have issues with them at present, you're looking for more justification for your hatred of them.

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I couldnt care less what that kid did.
Animals have more rights compared to me.

what we were talking about, was the money wasted.
As you said, its ok to do so, But why just him ?. how come i missed out of the gravy train, By god, I would love to see my son, I would love to hold him,play with him. hear him talk, watch him. You really dont have any idea do you?.
Why Cant I also Obtain that same right to see my Son.

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Of course. Someone disagrees with you and they're instantly a "sharon" or a "julie". How exactly is my difference of opinion making me sound like Sharon? I don't agree with you so I must be wrong right? For someone who believes so much in freedom of speech, you're quick to shut other's down when they don't agree with you on something.

This crap with getting out of the kitty litter is a getting a little old...

I assume that you can't see your child over the Christmas period because DOCS believe you're a child sex offender or a paedophile.

And DOCS don't fly parents to see their children. It's the parents responsibility to get their own transport to contact visits. Otherswise it'd be called Parent Services instead of Children's Services.

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So be it I might be looking for more justification for my hatred of Families SA, but that doesn't excuse the fact that the Department had responsibility of this child.

We have no rights as a parent, they drum that into the children as soon as they start school. I do have teenagers and have never had trouble with them, but my younger one, who was taught sex education and her rights, well she is the handful, and what can i do about it NOTHING....Nothing works. Now is this because she has been given the responsibility at such a young age.

Damm right im angry with them, they think they can remove children, and then let them rot in the system.


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I dont even give a rat ass what DOCS believes in, Until I clear my name, and I can shove that piece of paper in the Behinds, I know I dont stand a chance, now.
But the point is still valid,WJ: will confirm that even DOCS stated in a court room that they had the funds for me to travel. Yet, Stops me.

No conviction, Sweet cheeks just the words of a retarded department.

And I attack cos, You still dont see the light.

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I didn't say you were convicted. I said they BELIEVE. sweet cheeks.


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ehehhe, too right, sweet cheeks.

They believe their own stinking Lies. and then point at me to say it all my fault.

I suffer now, the day soon is coming. where they will.

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Safety is important to all parents of course.I know what the Amber Alert is and think it is a good idea.I probably would not purchase an anti kidnapping item. You could keep your child in your house and be guaranteed she would never be kidnapped also but would you do that?There are lots of disasters unfortunately that can happen to children and adults alike. Some safety items I feel are good ideas and some things take it a bit to far.
No invention can take the place for watching your child, using common sense, and teaching them common sense.

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Agree, The foundation of DOCS is sound. It's the people that break the laws of it, that is the issue.
We as parents and as a society protect the young.
The people of DOCS are not of a society to protect anyone.


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