Well I could not believe my sight when on the news in Brisbane there were over 100,000 people protesting over the possible war against Iraq.<br />THIS IS MY OPINION!!!<br />The US should get out of Iraq and tell Saddam to do what he wants, Also the US should get out off Korea, Taiwan and and other countries they are presently in. If the United Nations Refuses an attack on Iraq they also should Remove themselves from United Nations and go it alone.<br />Also they should tell all their Allies to go to hell, yes Australia too so that means Australia has to fend for itself.<br />What the Anti War protesters dont see but they tell you its a oil war! yes it is an oil war Now look at it my way<br />No US military in Kuwait Saddam says thankyou I will have that, Arrrrrrr Saudi Arabia might be next!! Hummmm Now he owns over 60% of the oil in the world. Do you think you will be paying 90 Cents per litre? more like $9 per litre yes its is an oil war now.<br />The US Military gets out of South Korea Arrrrrrh how long before the Communist in North Korea decide to get back into South Korea I will have that Please,,Hummmm Japan will be worried !! there are scores to be settled there.<br />The US military looks the other way from Taiwan and China says Huuummmmmm!!! I will have that thank you Taiwan is now a part of China.<br />Now poor Australia with our Pathetic Military and plenty of lawyers Hummmmm some of our Asian Neighbours with a MASSIVE Military Huge Population say Australia looks good I will have that, Australia will say STOP OR I WILL SUE YOU If you Invade us. we are in Panic the US says Sorry, then we all know what happens next.<br />What worries me is I cant find anyone that Voted John Howard in Power but we all know he won the last election.<br />And if Australia ever gets invaded I bet you, you will never find any of those 100,000 protesters at that rally, and also if the US would come into save us these same people would get in a queue to kiss United State's arse, look at the world's history we have always had at lease one Lunatic leader that wants to take over the world nothing has changed.<br />Wars are horrible But sometimes it is necessary to eradicate a tyrant before he gets too big for his shoes,,,,just imagine Saddam INSANE taking in his grasp Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and North Korea taking Over South Korea this would be the recipe for World War 3.<br />I get sick and tired to see women and Children in Marches Waving their Banners when most of them dont know what is really going on behind closed doors, Some of these Idiots need to be Educated what happenes in war, the Lawyers wont protect you! look what the Japanese, did to the Phillippino women in WW2 and the Russian Did to the German Women when Russia Entered Germany to end World War 2 over 100,000 Women got raped in Weeks in one City thats outrageous, wars are not pretty and we must never allow a lunatic regime to take a strangle hold on the world again.<br /><br />Phil

i did not know that. and hello <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Phil<br />As you know and the rest of you dont know I recently migrated from South Africa and I love it here in Melbourne, where we lived in Johannesberg it was dangerous to walk outside your front door as madness reigned supreme. Australia is a beautiful Country and at the moment it is still safe but for how long this is the worry.<br />Majority of those marching seen on the news haven't got a clue what a tyrant is. ASK ALL THE WHITES IN ZIMBABWE,,,,,would you like to live there, no I bet you wouldn't, It is easy to march on Sunday and go home to a big Baked dinner at night and sit down and watch Television without a thing to worry about, 90% of Australians are in this position.<br />Talking about percentages I read in a article in a Magazine that Israel and Australia have something in common, 95% of Isralies have seen WAR, 95% of Australians have NEVER seen WAR outside a Movie screen, Australia consider yourself very lucky<br />PS do you know that it cost the United States around 2.5 Million Dollars a day to have an Aircraft Carrier sitting there doing nothing, How moch is it costing in total for their complete fleet per day?.<br />Steve

To all to read.<br />Phil sent me a video weeks ago, no doubt he taped it from one of his many Arabic channels (how many Phil around 20 to 30 in total?) and it showed GRAPHIC shots of these poor Kurdish people yes this included Children dead in piles, this was the Payback that Suddam Hussein did to his own people in Northern Iraq, the KURDS where he used chemical weapons. Some of you know I was born and bred in South Africa and I have seen some sickness in my life back home, BUT NEVER LIKE THIS.<br />What happened in Northern Iraq to the Kurdish people is an absolute disgrace. I am talking about piles the size of houses. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br />I will show this Video to a selected group of people then get rid of it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> . <br /><br />What I cant understand is when I watch the evening news I see these poor kids from private schools marching with women of course against war in Iraq, they haven't got a clue whats going on.<br />THIS VIDEO SHOULD BE SHOWN TO ALL! even at school to all these pathetic Stupid dumb children, and their perents, they are all blind. Phil your intelligence is double compared to the idiots that my students are at Uni, You are so correct what you said in you previous post. If the United States walked away from Iraq and out of South Korea, out of Taiwan, out of Japan, Out of Saudi Arabia and out of anywhere else they are, how long would it be before Saddam swallows up half of the Middle East, China Swallows up Taiwan, North Korea swallows up South Korea and so on. Now as you said Australia has an extremly small military. If the USA ever told all its whingeing allies to go and fend for yourselves how would Australia's tiny not experienced military machine function, in case we were ever invaded and not protected by the US. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br />Now back to our little Children waving Placards saying we "dont want war", how's this for your appetite<br />1/ Our ARMY/NAVY? and AIR FORCE would have to be Quadrupled. Hello ! Where would the money come from?. MASSIVE TAX RISES!!!<br />2/ Where would the personnel come from?. You young ingrateful idiots "CONSCRIPTION", for you idiots that don't know what that is IT MEANS YOU ARE FORCED TO GO IN THE ARMY/NAVY OR THE AIR FORCE at the age of 19 like they did in Australia during the Vietnam War till the 1970's and there will be no discrimination, girls too. You don't understand that America is our defacto Military. If Australia ever got into trouble who would assist us to the bitter end, THE YANKS.<br />Getting back to the video do the people of Australia know what Suddam does to his young pretty 17 to 20 year old girls that he gets for his entertainment after he FUCK"S them ! Do you think he lets them go back to there mummies?. Saying hummm Mummy Suddam was nice to me, He gives them to his republican guards and they kill them.<br />I am disgusted to what I see on the tele but I can imagine Phil what you can see with all those channels at your disposal.<br />Steve <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

Steve<br />Its good to see you are a lateral thinker ! The difference between myself and yourself is I am an old man with limited Qualifications and you are a middle aged man with heaps of qualifications.<br />But we both can see through a plain glass window.<br />Watching that same cannel that I wont disclose, do you know in Northern Iraq when its windy they stay inside?, yes this is still on as of 2002 as the wind stirs up the chemicals still in the sand and they can breathe them in.<br />Phil <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

Hey Phil<br />If we don't have the US as a allie than what about that fool Helen Clark in New zealand, they don't even have a air force. what they put shit on John Howard but if they ever got in strife she would be Howard's best buddie !! How pathetic.<br />Peter that use to live in NZ...<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 13. March 2003, 07:33 PM: Message edited by: jaremt ]</small>

Watching C-Span (US Embassy Channel) and there was some good topics about Saddam Insane, now this is interesting.<br />If Saddam Insane was allowed to do what he wants we all know he would take over Kuwait!! now what would he do with all the money from rapid cheap oil sales, would he feed his people,a better infrastructure for the country, or would he spend the majority of it on military hardware. Well we all know the answer to that, now with all these toys to play with (Bombs,Missiles,Tanks,more chemical weapons, better planes supplied by his new buddy the French and trained how to use them) what would you think would happen if the USA just happened to fizz away Israel would be the next to go and he would start the Asian tour just as Adolf Hitler started the european Tour. Now As we or Some of know Thanks to the Al-jazeera Channel Bin Ladens buddies Iraq would become the Muscle of the Arab states, After all Bin Laden did say that One Arab state must stand up and take on the Christian world. Hummmm Will continue to watch C-span/world Net, will be interesting in the next few days.<br />Phil <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 15. March 2003, 07:37 PM: Message edited by: P Debono ]</small>

Phil<br />One Phil to another<br />What would happen when the war in Iraq starts if say north korea decides to invade south korea.<br />Phillip

Phil from Broken Hill how are you? ,,,<br />Feeling little better today I have good dose of the flu.<br />Now thats a good one !!! ,there is a saying when there is confusion there is profit <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br />Well even the big superpower cant be in two places at the same time fighting in two separate wars, it could be worst 3 wars, one in our region.<br />I have received some emails from some gutless wonders that are too scared to join the forum so they whinge via emails.<br />Like I said before I am either fully on the left or the right never in the middle its not my nature. What these idiots want is to bake the cake and eat it too, not everything can always go the way you want.<br />These idiots say they don't want Australia to be an Allie of America because they Hate the yanks, but when I said well we must then have a increase size in our military Plus a re-introduction of national service they said its not necessary<br />"WHO IN THE HELL IS GOING TO PROTECT US IF WE DON'T HAVE A CORRECT DEFENCE FORCE"<br />Like I said before and I will say it again If the Yanks get out of Kuwait, South Korea, and an interest in Taiwan I think you should all know what the answer would be, No more Kuwait, South Korea and Taiwan.<br />I cant believe the dead heads out there. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br />Phil <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

I have been reading your forum lately and like other threads we all think you are totally WRONG regarding Saddam Hussein, I don't know whats wrong with you war mongers like some of you on this forum.<br />For one I respect the Prime Minister in New Zealand Helen Clarke for downsizing her military. You tell me, why do you need an Air Force?, why do we in Australia need an Air Force?. Nobody will probably ever attack us so why in the hell should we ever spend a massive slice of our budget on a massive war machine?, we could spend that on other important things like research in Breast cancer "etc"?.<br />And for the United States who wants them for an ally?, We don't need them. For one I will vote green in the next election and give Senator Bob Brown my tick. Instead of sending Bombs and missiles to Iraq we should have sent a contingent of the Greens and similar from other nations and speaking personally to Saddam Hussein to see his concerns.<br />All this rubbish you hear and see is all rubbish, one death is turned into 100 by the Americans its full of propaganda run by the US, I will continue to march with others from the university in every rally that is against the war in Iraq.<br />For God's sake we need a women as a Prime Minister in this country, the first thing to be introduced would be reduced military as was suggested by Senator Bob Brown<br />Cathy

What I think of MiiB and all the Blind Uni students not all as there is a great deal of smart ones out there its just that you cant teach common sense to people who lack it and that’s a fact<br /><br />This is what happens when you try to educate stupid people!!!!!!<br /><br />If you let Sadam uinfi the Arab countrys like he wants to do much like what was Hitler’s plan with eurpoe in the 40’s<br /><br />Then the life that you now appreciate will disappear my dear as I bet that you could not give up all the things that oil give us <br />Like food yes food, oil is used to run the tractors to work the fields; you do know they work on fuel don’t you with out it at a cheap price we could not afford to feed our people not to mention the luxuries it brings like washer you hair its oil based some ware down the line <br /><br />And all the chemicals were would we get our base ingredients to make the all the things we now rely on <br /><br />Not to mention the jobs that would be lost because of all the industries that relies on oil and its products and by products <br /><br />If you let one dictator control all the oil then he can dictate who gets it and with out the oil we can not live my dear we rely on the stuff to much!<br />So why don’t all of the protestors that put more effort in not taking time out of uni and missing out of my and every Australian tax funded classes and start to come up with some energy solutions to oil so that the value of the oil will become nothing <br /><br />So a to remove the prize <br />If you want to make a real protest boycott all the products that rely on oil but I bet you wont it’s easier to just skip a class and rip flags <br /><br />You’re all bunch of jokes <br /><br /> <br />Hess been giving enough of a chance to disarm I believe

Well said Jason,,,, I don't know what to say I am lost for words, I hope at your university there aren't too many like you but I bet there is.<br />Are you for real?, why don't you and all your pathetic uni students go to hell. For Christ sake could you imagine this as our Prime minister of Australia. Since you like Saddam that much why don't you and all your uni students + all the greenies + senator Bob Brown invite Saddam over if he and his sons are still alive for a cup of tea and some scones, or better why don't the lot of you go to Iraq and kiss his arse.<br />This scares me to see people that must have a reasonable intelligence yet they are so naive and stupid. <br />CATHY,,, I LAST NIGHT COPIED ON VIDEO ON THE AL-MANAR ARABIC CHANNEL THE MURDER AND TORTURE OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS, IT'S POSSIBLY THE WORST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN 15 YEARS OF SATELLITE TRACKING, YET AL-MANAR AND AL-JAZEERA SHOWED THIS TO 100% OF ARABIC COUNTRIES. OUT OF THE 25 ODD ARABIC CHANNELS I HAVE 12 SHOWED IT IN THE FIRST 4 HOURS I TUNED IN. LAST NIGHT THE MUTILATED BODIES WERE ON THE FRONT PAGE ON MOST HARD LINE ARABIC COUNTRIES AND THEY DANCED IN THE STREETS PROUDLY SHOWING IT TO EVERYONE.<br />I have seen on the US embassy channels plus many of the news feeds around the world the surrender of Iraqi's where some of the Iraqi soldiers were dying of thirst and hunger. American soldiers gave them water from their own water can and gave them their own rations and these Iraqi soldiers devoured the food like animals. To me the president fo the United States will definitely view this video and I sincerely hope that he changes the tempo of this war. Wars become dirty, look what the Germans did to the Russians in Stalingrad during World War 2? The Russians finally had the last laugh and like some of you do gooders say, women and children are always the ones who get injured or killed. Well trust me, when Australia one day gets invaded because the United States possibly won't be our ally and Cathy will be our prime minister, with no military, the women will be the first ones in this country to feel the brunt of an invading army. <br />To me the Americans are too soft, why lose an American or a British or Australian soldier trying to save Iraqi civilians considering that if you turn your back they're are liable to kill you? To me its time to use the "MOTHER OFF ALL" the most powerful conventional bomb in the world and I would drop the lot on them.<br />Phil <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

talking to my father last night and he tell me my grandfather died in WW2 defending australia against the japanese in png, he is disgusted with your post cathy and so am i.I for one cannot believe what you wrote. like phil said are you for real yes and the tax payer is paying for you studies?? my dad who is in his sixties said to me the young generation don't appreciate the freedom we have here in australia today<br />Fred

Well well Cathy Its good to see all you uni students are consistent, I teach them and they sound exactly like you, BRAIN DEAD !!!<br />Steve.<br />I Don't know whats wrong with our young population<br />especially the so called intelligent ones<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

Hey Cathy why don't all of you go and meet saddam<br />and his son's you could be lucky, he might give you 7 inches of SCUD MISSILE. <br /><br />OOOOOhhhh sorry saddam you only have 5 <br />Peter

Video of the killing of the U.S. soldiers!! What a lot of rubbish, this is American propaganda. You don't think the Iraqi's would be that stupid? They have to abide by the rules of the Geneva Convention.<br />All the Americans are trying to do is whip up a storm to get public support for this not needed war. As for you Phil you are an American puppet <br />that means you're full of SHIT....<br />For the thread above PETER! well what do you expect from an uneducated idiot?.<br />Cathy

Cathy <br />I don't want to get into a slanging match because I can see you are frustrated maybe more than one way. Actually for a so called smart uni student you really are stupid, you would think that you would look at the AL-JAZEERA site they are showing pictures of the poor soldiers after being assassinated, <br /> The yank hackers have bombarded this site good on you all this site should be shut down.<br /> http://www.aljazeera.net/<br /> <br /> <small>[ 26. March 2003, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: P Debono ]</small>

Cathy I think Phil is being to polite what I think he is trying to say is FUCK OFF !<br />Fred

Good one fred you beat me to it.<br />On this evenings news at 6pm did you see all those low life trouble makers marching again. Of course some were uni-students and some school students and the rest were just trouble makers.<br />nothing has changed.<br />Phil <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

I may be entering this fray a little late......But as everyone has previously said....cathyB....you are an IDIOT!! Have you no idea????? Saddam was given an extremely long time to disarm and go into exile and blah blah blah etc. BUT HE DIDN'T. Can you not take no for an answer? We gave him enough time, he wasted it, and now he is going to hell.

Oh and by the way........I dont think Saddam gives a shit about the Geneva Thing. What is it? A piece of paper, a computer file??? Woop D Frickin Doo

Hey Cathy <br />Sadam kills he’s own people so why would he care about killing any foreigners commonsense has eluded you again my dear<br /><br />And a two points that your are missing my dear is that 1 Sadam is firing missiles he said he does not have to the inspectors <br />And 2 he has made threats that he will use Chemical warfare if the colation cross a line that he has determined ( mmmm I thought he said he had no chemical weapons )<br /><br />How can you trust this prick Cathy? thought that you would learn something in uni you and the pricks like you are not the true voice of Australian just a Minority <br /><br />Something for you to think about Cathy is that you and your dickhead mates would be dead if you lived and carried on in Sadam state/ country as they don’t have free speech do they?<br /><br /><br />By the way you are a typical two faced coward why don’t you put your full name to your post or don’t you truly believe in what you are saying

I was just re-reading the posts, when i read that 1st post by CathyB.....CathyB....HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY THINK THAT NOBODY WILL ATTACK US???????? Knock, Knock....anyone there???? Wake up to the world, you "peace person" The world is forever at war...It is Human Culture. Without war we would be german! All the jews would be dead and Hitler's evil "vision" would be a reality. Now what do think about war??????? Have you really even thought about it????

I was just re-reading the posts, when i read that 1st post by CathyB.....CathyB....HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY THINK THAT NOBODY WILL ATTACK US???????? Knock, Knock....anyone there???? Wake up to the world, you "peace person" The world is forever at war...It is Human Culture. Without war we would be german! All the jews would be dead and Hitler's evil "vision" would be a reality. Now what do think about war??????? Have you really even thought about it????

Watching AL-ALAM on Asiasat 2 Freq 3660V S/R 27500 Fec 3/7 they had the minister of Propaganda or better still he is called minister of information.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,<br />What a lot of shit I must give Cathys Email address to him he will definitely like her.<br />The verbal diahorrea was unbelievable he said...<br />1/ The coalition has taken heavy losses<br />2/ 20 planes shot down<br />3/ 15 tanks<br />4/ over 300 coalition soldiers killed<br />5/ and we are driving them back into the desert.<br />and so on and on it went for 40 minutes of lies.<br /><br />Now this fuck wit is giving his own soldiers a false sense of security, the US spy satellites can see miles of Iraqi trucks and tanks leaving Baghdad, thinking they are chasing the Americans away, not realising that the 5 point above are all propaganda which is about to get thousands of Iraqi soldiers killed. As soon as the storm clears there is no doubt that the A-10 tank busters and the Apache helicopters will have a field day. Poor soldiers about to be sacrificed by another loser.<br />Phil <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 27. March 2003, 07:45 PM: Message edited by: P Debono ]</small>

Now for my two cents, Cathy.<br /><br />Who would like to invade Australia? Indonesia for starters. My opinion, and I have many, Australia needs to increase it Military. Don't get me wrong, I agree about spending more money of things such as Breast Cancer. My workmates wife is suffering from it.<br /><br />I bet that you're a person who also fantasizes about the aborigial dream times. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against anyone.<br /><br />A friend of my when he was living in canberra, had a mate visit him from WA. He went to the old Parli House and went on a tour of the old joint. They adventually got to a spot where they had displays of the Aboriginals and history of the Tent Embassy.<br /><br />Outside they had just lit a fire. My mate said 'Look kids, there lighting a fire. Must be about to have some lunnch maybe'. Then a tour guide stuck her head and said 'oh no, that is a fire to calm the spirits and etc etc'.<br /><br />O.K. fair enough everyone has their own beliefs and I respect that. The bloke from WA piped up and said 'Maybe I'll just go out and piss on it.'<br /><br />So it was not the right thing to say, but this tour guide went off BIG time shouting 'you can't go about saying things like that!'<br /><br />His then quizzed her further and realised too that she lived in the dreamtimes. Thinking that they are perfect people.<br /><br />That was until he told her, that he used to work at Mt Magnet were there was a large aboriginal population. And a story about how a friend of his came within inches of his life because one aboriginal was told that his sister was assaulted by a white male. Well, this bloke just happened to fit the vague discription of the person who did this.<br /><br />The man answered a knock on his door only to be belted in the head 4 times with a hammer when he opened it. He still he a great 'DENT' in his head where he was bashed.<br /><br />The police did later catch the correct man who did assault the woman. It wasn't the one with hammer holes in his head.<br /><br />What I am getting at here is Cathy, there are two sides to every story. Research them a bit further before you come up with such a one sided response.<br /><br />I do feel sorry for the people of IRAQ. The problem is Saddam. Why does a country that has 60% of the world oil have people living in such shit conditions for so many years. And I do mean before the Gulf War of '91.<br /><br />Why does the so called 'President' live in such palaces when he people live in some pretty bad conditions. Do you see John Howard living in such huge places? The lodge is nice but he prefers to live at home when parliament does not sit. And lodge is a nice place, but no palace.<br /><br />Also when IRAQ has elections, instead of getting DIAL TONE when they picked up their phones, they get a message saying 'YES YES SADDAM!' And further more, what's the point of having elections when there are no other candidates because they were knocked of shortly after Saddam got in power?<br /><br />Cathy, you know I thought being a student you would have a few more BRAIN cells than others. And I'm sure you would have been taught to research before presenting an argument. You FAIL F- for you and I have a feeling that you won't get an A until you live life and see it with your eyes open!<br /><br />I have a Manager who is Muslim, do I care? No I repect that. I have many friends who are indiginous and ethnic and oriental. I respect them all and they respect me!<br /><br />I have too much to say and not enough time to post it all but I will leave you with this quote I was taught.<br /><br />'Don't listen to what they are saying, LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!'<br /><br />Colin T

Colin<br />I have been told that some uni students have a slight problem.<br />Because they concentrate so much on studies that occupies 30% of their brain, the problem is the rest of the brain ROTS!!<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br />Phil

Jason you need to go back to school and for Colin I will get my Violin out.<br />What I can't understand is how can you watch all these so call Arabic channels live. Other people can't get them so how can you? Again Phil, I think you are full of lies and you are a puppet for the US. I have spoken to some technical minded people at Uni and they tell me thats its impossible to get those channels as they are in the Northern Hemisphere and I was also told these channels don't exist. Al-MANAR or AL-ALAM what hat did you pull them out of?. I have been watching the news and whatever material I can get on this Not wanted war and all I can see is Innocent Iraqi's getting killed by American aggression.<br />I will be glad next Wednesday as there will be another march. I will be there with 100 others.<br />Cathy

Maybe you should go back to school and learn a bit about Communications <br /><br />You are showing your lack of commonsense again in saying that Phill or any one with the right equipment can’t watch the channels that he is talking about. Do you really think all them satellites up there only beam signals to the ground have you not thought they might relay to each other (think of a basket ball covered in a net, now think of the knots in the net as satellites and the string as there field of signal transmission Can you understand or are you really that thick) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />How can accuse someone of lying when you had to ask a “technical minded friend” so does this friend have a name and what experience does he have on the subject or is it all from the DISCOVERY CHANNEL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br /><br />Go have your march <br />So the numbers are down to only 100 now shit at this rate you’ll be by your self in no time just think how stupid your going to look ha you’re a peasant ant <br /><br />Im sure some others will agree when I say <br />Please go away you peasant <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

Cathy, thanks for the Violin. Can I please request Bach Minuet in G? Ta.<br /><br />Have a look at Phil's AVATAR. Those satellite dishes are located in is HIS backyard not TCN9, ATN7 or Pinegap. HIS backyard.<br /><br />If you would like to know a listing of the Satellites and frequencies to tune into, just ask Phil. Maybe your techo mate could help you.<br /><br />He should be able to tell you about spot beams, global beams and hemi-spherical beams after only some short research. If you doubt that satellite can be reached here, goto www.lyngsat.com, then asia/pacific then pick a satellite like Asiasat 2.<br /><br />On the right hand side of the frequency and channel names, you'll get the word 'asia' underlined meaning it's a hyperlink. Click on this. Now don't download the language update if it asks, it doesn't need it. A map then appears and fuck me dead if Australia is not in the coverage pattern for C-band.<br /><br />And last, but not least, OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES!

Well Colin....Those dishes are actually in his front yard lol. I have been to his house. My dad knows him.

Well cathy you are back again with more insults, Like colin said look at lyngsat satellite Charts and maybe your technical friend can see where the footprints cover. As for Al-Alam look for yourself<br />http://www.lyngsat.com/asia2.shtml<br />On freq 3660 V S/R 27500 FEC 3/4<br />I not going to waste my time on you, your are faceless I cant even send you a private email because you are a coward.<br />Phil <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Cathy<br />I will say it again you are typical uni dead beat, sometimes I wonder why young kids ever bother going to university when they become non believers like you. My Brother visited Phil months ago and I can tell you he is 100% real and so are all his channels.<br />I can see you are very limited in your intelligence as you should have spotted the post that Phil put in "TRANSPONDER WATCH" thread called "PHIL"S SETUP" just open your eyes.<br />Just think I have to teach pupils similar to you, so thick and knowalls. Times have changed.<br />Steve<br />Sad

Being the Webmaster I always try to take a more 'neutral' view, especially on topics that are controversial. The whole idea of forums is open topic speaking with little rules other than normal manners expected by everyday existence.<br /><br />Cathy - Firstly welcome to the forum. You certainly have strong views and that is of course your right as it is everyone’s right.<br /><br />Likewise to everyone else, your views are always your own opinions and I for one welcome all your valued comments and opinions.<br /><br />As we are aware there are always two sides to every story. Likewise there are always facts and opposite truths.<br /><br />These are my own personal views of the Iraq situation...<br /><br /><br />I am not pro Iraq, also I am also not pro U.S., I am pro 'The World' and the belief that humanity will be in some sort of balance.<br /><br />I do feel more effort could have been done before sending in the troops. For instance the total oil supply from Iraq could have been cut in a pure 100% food for oil only means. This would strangle Saddams money supply. The U.S. was aware of oil being sent up from Iraq north through Turkey - in fact it was on Sixty Minutes last year!<br /><br />Where the hell is the fire??? It’s not like Saddam has weapons ready and is shipping them, or there are rockets sitting in the opening being fuelled up for launch. Also there is no direct proof of links from Iraq to terrorist groups, in fact one tape from Osma Bin Larden called Saddam an infidel. Surely there was more time for hard core sanctions and efforts.<br /><br />What about places like North Korea and the growing hostilities between India and Pakistan, all these places HAVE nuclear weapons? Just on Thursday India test fired a missile with Pakistan countering with a retaliatory missile test within hours. I see a lot more smoke from here than Iraq!<br /><br />Nevertheless Saddam is a dictator and ruthless, he should go. If more were done before sending in the troops public opinion would be higher and a lot more support, both globally and within even the Coalition countries including the U.S.<br /><br />Somewhere between the pro U.S. biased televised coverage on CNN and Fox News, the neutral view of BBC World News Service and Australian Broadcasting Corporation (the ABC) and the pure anti U.S. bias of Iraq television the truth can be seen.<br /><br />Even on Fox News channel today, they were questioning why George Bush will not relent US control of Iraq after the war (he opposes an interim U.N. government). Basically all the contracts for reconstruction will be awarded to US companies as these have 'security clearance'. All paid from the Iraq oil controlled by the ruling interim government <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <br /><br />Syria is already starting to help Iraq and today the U.S. sent a warning stop as this is seen as 'hostile' action.<br /><br />What a mess the whole thing is <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> , and no one will win. The longer the war goes on the more the support for it continuing will dramatically fall. Baghdad will end up an urban conflict with fighting street by street <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> .<br /><br />Today also 120,000 more US troops were sent and this is WAY ahead of schedule. Clearly the whole strategy was clearly based on the regime 'giving up'.<br /><br />Alternate - Step up the heat, more civilian casualties and watch it totally de-stabilise the Middle East and watch the countries come to help Iraq. If the U.S. maintains a long term presence in the Middle East it will also de-stabilise the region. It’s certainly a no win situation for everyone concerned. Let’s hope that it ends as quickly as possible and the U.N. can assist in getting a democratic government in place as fast as possible.<br /><br />I hope for an ending to this conflict as quickly as possible with the minimum loss of human life.

Dave <br />You also have Al-Manar, also you should be able to get Al-Alam on Asiasat 2 and we will keep away from the US propaganda channels + we will completely keep away from current affairs that have totally happened in the last 12 months. But when you see ESC1 EGYPTIAN SPACE CHANNEL which you also get how do you explain the Piles of dead Kurds back in 1986 + in 1998 + all the killings that averaged around 1500 per month over 20 years? Now this was a very interesting documentary, nobody cared about the kurds or the illegal killings then so why all the interest of poor Innocent Iraqi getting killed now.<br />Maybe the US made a big mistake, they should have used my Tactics like I used once to catch a thief stealing from my spare parts room whilst I worked for the Sydney water Board. I deliberately trapped him in the act boots and all, caught red handed otherwise its always your word against his but not the way I did it.<br />"THIS IS WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE"<br />The US should have had a minor disagreement with Kuwait and moved out forces and all,,,also the US should have a disagreement with South Korea and also remove themselves from South Korea and because Saddam and that other crackpot from North Korea COULD NOT HELP THEMSELVES they would invade their southern brothers, so what would happen then, the US would chuck a U TURN and become a big saviour and then the whole world would be clapping their hands for the American Hero.<br />But then what would happen to the southern brothers (Kuwait and South Korea) whilst being invaded and waiting for rescue, could you imagine the carnage of its civilian population?.<br />Maybe the yanks should get out of everyone's back yard and let the dictators take over the world and let World War 3 commence because this is what will happen. After all If Adolph Hitler has stopped early on his European tour maybe WW2 never would have happened but thats history now.<br />We are lucky in this country only last week I was going through my personal folder (6 inches thick) looking for some of my old School reports in Primary School because My son has similar problems as I have (comprehension Problem in early years) yes Memory he is similar to me. All I wanted to show the school is he is a bit different than other kids but like me. Whilst in my folder I opened my National Service Folder yes that means forced service in the Army. It was the only lottery I have ever won. It is very hard for a kid from a strict Catholic Family to be forced in the army be trained to kill and then be sent to Vietnam, do you know what happens, you lose all your morals..... till today I know an American soldier that went A.W.O.L yes missing in action because he was charged for an Illegal killing. We are still friends today and talk occasionally.<br />This is the reason why most of my friends today don't know where I popped out from because nobody knew me before 1971 only after, nor I ever spoke about it.<br />Now we get back to Iraq,,,, If Australian soldiers that went to War, any War including Vietnam which was the FIRST WAR WHEN guerillah and dirty tactics were used,, similar to todays war in Iraq you also would lose your morals, so when you look at the SCUM in most of the Arabic Countries where young kids of 8 years and over enjoy death carrying AK-47's they have been corrupted and definitely lost their innocence.<br />To me I am sick and tired of seeing and hearing its a Holy war, yes thats Means Muslim Versus the rest of the world, It will happen one day so all you young people out there Remember it.<br />I wish the United States would pull out of all the interest around the world so all the dictators would overrun their neighbours "this would bring the World to war" and I would love to see all these Scum Young kids today forced to Conscription in the Armed services. The only thing I regret is I am and will be too old to volunteer to go back where I was 33 years ago and watch todays generation being drilled in the armed forces.<br />Looking at the news the other night I saw an old man in tears saying he fought in WW2 to protect Australia for the Youth of today.<br />My last words, the youths of today need a lesson.<br />Phil

For all to see,I was sent this URL for the Non-believers<br />WARNING!! DONT EAT FIRST.<br />http://www.kdp.pp.se/chemical.html<br />Phil<br />SAD