Tv Polonia will start in about 10-15 days on GlobeCast platform 12564/30000,then it will be encrypted in mid June. $ 45.00 plus GST per month and you have to buy new receiver $205. Sounds very expensive for one channel. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

WOW <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" /> <br /><br />That's a rip off !!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

maybe they are somehow connected to TV Minus? :-D

yeh it is abit steep for one channel i guess the armenian channel ppl are only wanting to charge $35 a month for it but $45 is getting abit out of hand just for one channel<br /><br />i see alot of small operators are coming out now offering 1 - 4 channels on there platform and charging an unfair amount for it<br /><br />do u have anymore info kloss such as a website or sumthin?<br /> <br /> <small>[ 26. April 2005, 06:40 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

That is outragous for one channel, you know the more the days pass the more tarbs looked like a fair to good pay tv company, I was only told yesterday by my <br />nephew he said you get these channels for free by using a Satellite box called dream something I don't understand what he ment but he said something about one pays and the rest get it for nothing but how can they do it when everyone is miles apart.<br />Has anyone heard of the above or is this just bull or is it true can something be done like this and if so can it be done with tv plus.

@Confused<br /><br />this is called Cardsharing and can be done using dreambox recievers and a continous internet connection <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> which shares the card details with everyone u share ur card with <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />so being miles apart doesnt matter all u need is the right equipment and be able to recieve the signal that u want and then the card details get sent thru the internet to everyone who is on ur network and allow them to share the primary card<br /> <br /> <small>[ 26. April 2005, 08:05 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

Did someone say....my name?!<br /><br />Lazer, the card sharing expert! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br /><br />Vlad...

u taught me everything i know about this CS stuff <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> u would know more about this <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Confused:<br /><strong> That is outragous for one channel, you know the more the days pass the more tarbs looked like a fair to good pay tv company, I was only told yesterday by my <br />nephew he said you get these channels for free by using a Satellite box called dream something I don't understand what he ment but he said something about one pays and the rest get it for nothing but how can they do it when everyone is miles apart.<br />Has anyone heard of the above or is this just bull or is it true can something be done like this and if so can it be done with tv plus. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes confused what your are saying is 100% correct.<br />Cardsharing is rife for every pay tv company in Australia except for UBI as you cannot Cardshare the UBI mentor system.<br />Most young people are computer smart these days and understand FULLY networking and will have no trouble doing it, its the GREED of pay tv companies that feeds piracy and this is the reason why some go to the lengths of doing it.<br />This is not a piracy forum but there are others, just go to GOOGLES and type Dreambox and spend hours reading, YOU WILL GET A SHOCK!!

According to the Polish SBS radio on the weekend the company running TV Polonia will be Puma Media.. Their website will be www.pumamedia.com.au and www.tvpolonia.com.au.. Note both websites havent started yet... will be on online in the next week or so.. $45 for one channel does sound ridiculous.. It looks like the duds in Tv Polonia back in Warsaw decided to pick another winner yet again.. Loosers.....

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Dark Lord:<br /><strong> $45 for one channel does sound ridiculous..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It makes Foxtel sound like it is good value for money !

In the USA which Globecast also sell TVP there it cost $28USD a month which is about $36 AUD a month and u get 2 polish channels plus 2 radio channels this price sounds better then $45 a month for 1 channel <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br /> http://www.globecastwtv.com/ch_tvp_package.htm<br /> <br /> <small>[ 26. April 2005, 08:43 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

And some had a hide to complain about TARBS.<br />TARBS looks rosy compared to what's happening around the Pay Tv seen at the moment, like I said months ago you will be paying $99 per month for 6 to 8 channels soon if you let them get away with it.They have to slug you to survive but remember there is a saying "Don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg" because this is what they are doing.<br />Value for money is UBI at the moment Arabic people can get 21 channels for just over $60, Turks are getting 8 channels for the same amount, but some companies will be charging you $99 for 8 channels and that is on the nose.

found some info on the registration of www.pumamedia.com.au and www.tvpolonia.com.au<br /><br />also if u check out www.pumafilm.com they seem to be the ones that have organised all this the are based in Victoria maybe an email to them might give ppl more info about what is going to happen to TV POLONIA<br /><br />domain registration info for pumamedia.com.au<br /><br />Domain Name: pumamedia.com.au<br />Last Modified: Never Updated<br />Registrar ID: R00053-AR<br />Registrar Name: IntaServe<br />Status: OK<br /><br />Registrant: FLORIDA PARK UNIT TRUST<br />Registrant ID: ABN 18781804924<br /><br />Registrant ROID: C1901792-AR<br />Registrant Contact Name: Ted M******<br />Registrant Email: ted@pumafilm.com<br /><br />Tech ID: C1901792-AR<br />Tech Name: Ted M******<br />Tech Email: ted@pumafilm.com<br /><br />Name Server: dns6.intaserve.net<br />Name Server: dns7.intaserve.net<br /><br />and for tvpolonia.com.au<br /><br />Domain Name: tvpolonia.com.au<br />Last Modified: Never Updated<br />Registrar ID: R00053-AR<br />Registrar Name: IntaServe<br />Status: OK<br /><br />Registrant: FLORIDA PARK PTY LTD<br />Registrant ID: <br /><br />Registrant ROID: C1901792-AR<br />Registrant Contact Name: Ted M*******<br />Registrant Email: ted@pumafilm.com<br /><br />Tech ID: C1901792-AR<br />Tech Name: Ted M*******<br />Tech Email: ted@pumafilm.com<br /><br />Name Server: dns6.intaserve.net<br />Name Server: dns7.intaserve.net<br /> <br /> <small>[ 26. April 2005, 10:52 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

Sent an email to them this morning havent got a reply as yet will keep ppl posted as soon as I get somethin.. It would appear as though Pumafilm import Polish Movies to Australia and are now just about to start getting into TV/Sat. Hence the high price for Transmition.. Small company means big bucks for one channel.. They are also promising one 24 hour Radio channel directly from Warsaw.. Standby to standby

Phill of course nobody cardshares UBI its not necessary the box modification is well known.<br /><br />I'm just trying to find out if it will be on globecasts 12564H transponder or B3 12658. If on 12564H no good to NZ.

OK here is an update.. Just received an email from Puma media director.. Apart from promising to get the feed in the country within the next 10 - 15 days he has also given me some more info..<br />First few weeks will be FTA. Settings as Follows: B3 Sat Transponder13 Freq 12564 Symb 30000 2/3 Horizontal. This means you can use your old TARBS box.. Ok that should be the easy step.. Now most of us know how to realign Ae's However they are willing to provide a service for $66-$110 for realingment(a bit expensive). Once the Scrambled service starts in June(IRDETO 2, I assume) a new decoder will have to be purchased. The price you ask. $320 with smart card supplied.. If you dont have the old tarbs package they will also give you a 85cm dish and cable and intall it for ya for $450 plus gst... The monthly rate will be $45. Currently the line up is TVP and Polish radio Jedynka. They are looking at organizing another TV Channel later on in the year as yet unclear which one.. I'm assuming TVP3 thats what USA has.. Hopefully this helps.. The Websites will come on line probably next week however, always a however... They have only received confirmation that they have the contact.. The contact has as yet not been signed by the Directors in Poland.. The 10-15 may drag on.......

i guess this means NZ misses out again as there goin to use 12564 H 30000

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> Phill of course nobody cardshares UBI its not necessary the box modification is well known.<br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes but there are more Dream boxes than the Mentor box.

Guys,<br /><br />More information you can see here (unfortunately in Polish):<br /><br />http://members.iinet.net.au/~kurier/tv_polonia_1.html<br /><br />I think $45 and one channel is a rip off. They say something about another channel but it is still very expensive.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />Boggie

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> Phill of course nobody cardshares UBI its not necessary the box modification is well known.<br /><br />I'm just trying to find out if it will be on globecasts 12564H transponder or B3 12658. If on 12564H no good to NZ. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes but as you know most of the cardsharing going around the guys doing it don't even bother watching it, some guys just do it for the fun of doing it. It makes me laugh as i have friends C/S austar and they are on ICQ talking to me most off the time. I tell them why aren't you watching free tv, answer nothing but shit on tonight!!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Big Chief:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> Phill of course nobody cardshares UBI its not necessary the box modification is well known.<br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes but there are more Dream boxes than the Mentor box. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes I can tell you this, most Pirates in Melbourne are still KICKING themselves why?? because when TARBS died with some help these pirates got the shits and dumped the boxes to the tip by the boot load. They never expected UBI to pop up and to use the same boxes again, yes you are correct a very limited supply of TARBS/UBI boxes floating around, as for Dreamboxes they are a dime a dozen<br /> <br /> <small>[ 26. April 2005, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: P Debono ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Boggie:<br /><strong> Guys,<br /><br />More information you can see here (unfortunately in Polish):<br /><br /> http://members.iinet.net.au/~kurier/tv_polonia_1.html <br /><br />I think $45 and one channel is a rip off. They say something about another channel but it is still very expensive.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />Boggie </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">$45 (plus GST) for one channel even with added radio station is a rip off. Most expensive paytv in Australia.<br />But recalling TARBS times it was $62.95 basically also for one channel. TV Polonia was the only Polish channel in the line up. This was why they had only ca 1000 customers. <br />There was voices here that polish channels if groupped with eg. russian could make quite a package. The reality is polish language is not that related with russian as all balkan lingos. You could group all serbian, croatian, bosnian, macedonian, bulgarian in one and they would all be happy. They all understand these languages.<br />Russian would probably be closer to those balkans than it is to Polish (not only by similar alphabet of most of them).<br />So in TARBS times TV Polonia was the only channel watchable and understood by an average Polish viewer. $62 for one ch was a giant rip off.<br />But still $45+gst... I don't think they'll get too much further than 1000 customers...<br />Just wonder how long they will last.

I totally agree with you Georgepie.The only way to go is get Pol-Sat and TVN plus TV Polonia together and you have descent package which will attract for sure more then 1000 customers TARBS had. This is something UBI should look at.

Ive been talking to a friend of mine in poland, he said TV polonia is one of the worst channels in poland. He said it should be FTA everywhere and when i told him the price they were offering it here for he couldnt believe it.

Yes I have heard the same from the TARBS days, but TV Poland is one of the only Sat channels available.

Man this package is a joke.....over 7 months of waiting for this..... They should have combined polish channels with russian - i watched both, and many of my polish and russian friends also watched both. Many polish people do speak russian, and they had more than 1 channel for the 62 bucks. I don't think they will get the 1000 customers this time - i was one of them but prob will not b joining with this rip off. I prefer joining MyTV - 6 channels for the same price...

Can you get NSS 6

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Edward:<br /><strong> Man this package is a joke.....over 7 months of waiting for this..... They should have combined polish channels with russian - i watched both, and many of my polish and russian friends also watched both. Many polish people do speak russian, and they had more than 1 channel for the 62 bucks. I don't think they will get the 1000 customers this time - i was one of them but prob will not b joining with this rip off. I prefer joining MyTV - 6 channels for the same price... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Mate, I'm trying to make them understand these languages are not close at all so they don't think they can make us happy giving us 1 polish channel (with those few russian)for the same price as eg. arabs pay for their 20+ arabic ones. You here are trying to look smart. You and maybe many of your friends speak russian but most of polish people don't. I don't, all my friends who had TARBS don't. They were paying $62.95 for one channel only. They never watched any other channels because they did not understand.<br /><br />Phil, what you are stating is very incorrect.<br />Just look here http://www.lyngsat.com/freetv/Poland.html.<br />These are all fta's available over Europe.<br />Some of them are rather not worth to be brought over here but there is a few quite good ones.<br />There is also a whole heap of scrambled channels owned by pay tv's.

Guys,<br /><br />Would not be nice to have...Polsat (all channels), TVN (all channels), MTV Poland, HBO...upps - I am dreaming...<br /><br />1000 customers...I can gamble on that the new offer will not attract "such big number" of poor (should say reach) bastards.<br /><br />Russian channels...I learnt this language for many years and can not understand a word (or maybe a few..)<br /><br />I will set my dish to Optus and I will watch it as long as it is free...and will wait for more valuable package (if it will come at all)<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />Boggie

I don't think it really matters how many people speak russian or not - although you would be surprised. Most of the people who do speak Polish are the ones who came here from poland during the communist era, and they speak polish and russian, while the new generation doesn't really know polish that well anyway. <br />Nevertheless, it doesn't make a difference. What I was saying, was that they should put the Polish channels together with russian - in other words TV Plus should get the contract. They already have a whole heap of channels, and customers and are more likely not to go bankrupt after a few months than a small polish company like - Puma Media. The bigger companies would be able to get more channels, while its obvious that such a small company was not able to negotiate anything more than one channel. <br />I realy find it hard to imagine that Puma Media will get more than 1000 customers, which is a shame - as there are at least 40,000 polish speaking people in australia.

"in other words TV Plus should get the contract. They already have a whole heap of channels, and customers and are more likely not to go bankrupt after a few months"<br /><br />HAHA. Whole heap of channels? Are you serious? They got 5-6 channels. And I beleive they have different contracts for Serbian, Bosnian and Russian TV. <br />They will go bankcrupt before UBI will.

Some more nfo from the Polish Kurier website.. looks like Its all a go. The two websites are almost ready and when you go to them you get a web test page.. Updates on the prices show that the decoder from Puma media will be $205.. It doesnt say if that price includes the smart card.. It does state that the old TARBS boxes (MDS)will not function with the new system even when its free to air.. Hard to beleive since I have a 3110 and I can get FTA no problems.. Maybe its only 3100 that have the trouble. Either way unless you have a smart card cabale receiver be ready to pay.. Once they scramble.. They are recommending 85cm dish but I use 65 and have no troubles getting globecast channels.. Now something intersting that is being stated is that they recommend you use their decoder however if you have your own they will not supply you with any technical help if anything goes wrong.. This eppears to mean that you can use any COT STB as long as its smart card capable.. Does that mean that you may only have to get a smart card from them???? Either way having told many of my Polish friends about it it looks like not many are interested if its only 1 channel... Looks like TVP may only be back temporarly unless the Package can get something better thrown in...

You never own the card with any services.<br /><br />AS to the signal level they are using an H pol frequency which is a different beam to the dual Aus/NZ one the Globecast use.

both www.tvpolonia.com.au and www.pumamedia.com.au seems to be up and running now but most of it is in polish<br /><br />to what i can understand on the site it says TV Polonia and some radio station will start on May 15th on OPTUS B3 12564 H 30000<br /> <br /> <small>[ 30. April 2005, 03:51 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

Any Updates on when the transmition starts... The 15 of May is actually when the Online TV Program Guide runs out.....

ide say it should start soon then cause whats the use of the guide being up when the channels havent started yet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 02. May 2005, 08:51 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

Yeah Thats what we were trying to work out on Friday night... Why would they put up the Schedule and not pump out the signal?? Makes no sense... Anyone try emailing them??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

I emailed them and got this from the Company... It looks like Globecast are testing the signal now and should be transmitting it as early as Thursday this week.. Fingers Crossed... If things go wrong it could drag into next week... But They assure me it looks good for this Weekend... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Ok. Now TV Polonia is so close I need to clarify something on my setup. All transponders on B3 are on my FTA STB on full blast, 99% quality.<br />This transponder (12564, 30000 H)is on 99% in the morning then slowly drops in strength to a complete zero after 5 pm. Then around 9.30 pm starts coming back to life and at the moment 10.00 pm is at 35% (watchable) and climbing.<br />Is anyone getting the same? It has been like this since this tp started with TVN, TVK, Telepace. I live in Melbourne. Any tips welcome.