</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by sookeye06:<br /><strong> umm...if u have the old tarbs box it will b very hard to get it back ..what u do is barrow ur freind's box and set it up..then try moving it to the east and u can clearly c the screw mark on the twist ..try to put it back on it and tie it up .then like i sed mov it from north to east ...slowly and u will get it im sure u can coz i did it and worked for me and for my 3 freinds who i did it to </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">yes what sookeye says is correct try get someone who has there dish and box tuned into pas8 already and borrow there box then start searching for the signal and look for pas8 or take ur box there tune the channels into it and then take it back home and try looking for pas8 but remember to power down the box first before leaving ur friends place who is on pas8 to make sure it saves the settings <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br />good luck <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />