We have smart young lads at Uni that cant understand these boxes <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> , It takes a Special type of computer nerd to understand them. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br />Its a pity you can't use them on Mentor for UBI, funny thing is as far as I know they will work on any card in the world including Foxtels greatest NDS.<br /> They will card share over the net anything on this planet but you guys have a hide to laugh at UBI's encryption and the Dreambox will not read a Mentor UBI card nor you can card share it. so think about that. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />