you can get the 500si(cut down 5620)...not badly priced, or if you look hard 5620(cut down 7000).....great box and better priced generally than the 500si. <br />Then there the older 7000...great box getting harder to find....might be a different story when the 7025 come out.<br />Then there's the 7020....better than the 7000 but still pricey.<br />7025...lots of promised features....big bucks<br />7080/85 has been scrapped.<br /><br />Hope this helps