@ Bandido.....mate you can't get TVN from PAS8 3940H, 27690, 7/8 on Adhoc channel on a small dish, as everyone is saying that signal is on C-band, which means you need a huuuuge dish...I have a 3 m mesh dish for that sat at the moment...anyway it is only sound...no picture....but as phil said the signal has been there since july last year...so who knows whats happening...<br /> <br /> <small>[ 20. December 2004, 12:31 PM: Message edited by: megb68 ]</small>