Okay, back to my old post, I warned Phil about this a long time ago. If any of you claim that you're not associated with any of the sat providers currently in the game then include the disclaimer with your post, something like myself below. Then if you lied the post could be used as an evidence against you in courts. This forum is hosted in Australia and falls under the jurisdiction of the Australian law which imposes severe penalties for misleading the public. Until then the public have every right to assume you have vested interests with these providers.