fsking this have been explained numerous times before the Tarbs MDS box was never made or intended to be used as a FTA box they are a Pay TV box if your father intends on just watching TRT which is FTA on 2 different freq's on B3 then i would advise just to get a cheap FTA reciever and use that without any hassles <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />