</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SelecTV:<br /><strong>BTW the CA vendors have noticed card sharing ........ </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well I don't think they'll be running MDS and Irdeto2 simultaneously, and if they do it won't be for long. You last comment is very interesting, would you like to fill in the dots.......?