OK OMJ, for the sake of friendly debate, I'll take your last A to mean 'Your ball, your serve'. The ball's in my court, so heads up!



Since you don't know, you can't say with any definity that just believing something doesn't make it true.


Since you preceded that A with the word 'surely', I assume that ending that very comment with a question mark is SURELY a typo...?


Um, first you would have to prove to me that it isn't true. My question is how do you plan to do that?


Until I know exactly what situation you are talking about, I'll leave that one alone. At first I thought about 'Hail-bop' in the early 90's, then my mind drifted to the David Koresh occult & upon further pondering I realized that maybe you were referring to the 911 happenings. I try not to assume, so until you confirm what situation you were talking about, I'll just skip it for now.


Hmm, is that because that theory isn't particularly one of your beliefs? Because in that case, it seems to me that YOU would be making a scapegoat comment yourself. It is not 'how many' people that believe in something, that makes it true or not true. Therefor, your comment, to me anyway, is a double negative...it works both ways OMJ.

EXAMPLE 1: Many people don't believe in Jesus Christ, does this prove that JC doesn't exist? However, many people DO believe in JC....does this PROVE that he does exist?

EXAMPLE 2: Many people don't believe in aliens & many people do. So which is it? Again we're back to the question of does a belief become reality simply because of the number of people who believe it.

EXAMPLE 3: Many people don't believe in ghosts, & many do. This one I picked particularly for you friend. As I know that you do believe in them. So I ask you, does the fact that many people DON'T believe in ghosts or the paranormal, make ghosts or the paranormal any less real for you?

My point being that because you believe in your heart that they do exist, abracadabra...there they are...a REALITY for YOU!

Also I might add, that there are a good many people that have never believed in Aliens or ghosts, but after seeing one or the other in a first hand experience, they are now believers...explain that one please.


Where do I even begin with this one? I guess I'll start here;
"An easy way out from the admittance of reality..." First prove to me that there is just ONE universal REALITY.

Second, I can IMAGINE that a reality that does not agree with someones beliefs, would in fact lead people in disbelief of that very reality, to IMAGINE an alternate reality. Hence Hitler's Holocaust & the very REAL REAL-ITY that that war against Jewish people created for them, even though the Jewish didn't share his beliefs. Did the fact that a lot of people NOT BELIEVING in Hitler's idea of what reality should be, mean that he couldn't bring his idea into fruition? NO it did not. People were killed simply for having different religious beliefs as he. He wanted to make his idea of reality EVERYONE'S idea of reality. At some level he succeeded, making everyone's world a Hell of supremacy & hate, which was nothing more than a self serving reality for him. I think that if Anne Frank were alive here in this dimension today, she would attest to the theory that one man's beliefs make his reality for him - and in some cases, for others as well, considering the amount of focused energy dedicated to bringing it into fruition.


Yes, that would be your mistake. But let's just roll with it shall we...for a moment let's go with that choice of reality. Chris Columbus was burned for treason, does that make the earth upon which you live any less round....umm, nope. But nice try.


Again a double negative. Your argument was that of which, that ONE person's belief does not make it reality for everyone, or as you so vehemently stated, that it doesn't even make it reality for that particular individual. Let's consider that when Sir Isaac Newton discovered this amazing force, that not everyone believed in it, or his theory of how it worked...that is your point isn't it? So what you're saying is that DR. Newton didn't need EVERYONE to grasp his idea for it to become his REALITY - or EVERYONE'S REALITY. That is what you're saying isn't it? My point exactly. Otherwise you would be talking about "mass consciousness" , which in REALITY is exactly what DR. Newton's 'theory' proved to create, by this point in our human existence. Today, what was once a theory by a mathematician & physicist, is now believed to be reality by the masses. Hmm, sounds strikingly familiar doesn't it?


Again you are confusing the belief of one man, with the belief of many - mass consciousness. At the sake of sounding redundant I won't repeat myself.


Good, then we won't have to talk about the word 'imagine' & how that simple yet misunderstood word causes alot of havoc in a world where it is believed by some, that another reality can't simply be imagined into existance.


Whew, I wonder if you've ever heard the phrase "And the cheese stands alone"?
I don't recall making the insinuation of 'death realizes your true self", but since it's now out there, I would have to say that if my human life is the guideline of my 'true self' then death I'll happily welcome. If this is as good as it gets, or as much as I 'truely am', then I await death & welcome it, as it will then expose to my human mind, what my universal mind was always capable of...seeing things beyond the human limitations of my human mind, reality, BELIEFS & existance.

Don't worry OMJ, it will happen for me soon enough & I'm sure you'll be the first to dance upon my grave.

BTW, I do so love the way you get my mind a rollin, so thank you & I look foward to chatting with you in the future...unless of course you believe that the future doesn't exist for you, in which case I'll just have to create you in "my own little future"

Always a pleasure,
~Jaime~