No Stuff Telstra, Go to Swiftel. I have already converted a few to Swiftel, If you can get ADSL don't even consider telstra/bigpond. As for pair gains what a joke, you are getting half a line but paying 100% in your bill for line rental.<br />Only 2 weeks agao I had it out with telstra about pair gains to one of the people I teach computers at home. They say your voice is ok, in other words up yours.<br />You know eventually we will get ADSL and I definitely won't be with Telstra/Bigpond and for the way I have been treated because of my Aus-city mail problem and I will encourage everyone else to leave Telstra and go elsewhere.<br /><br />Go to<br />http://www.swiftel.com.au/<br />Phil<br /> <br /> <small>[ 27. May 2004, 07:12 PM: Message edited by: P Debono ]</small>