Do not give your boxes to TVPLUS as you will have probs going to UBI once TVPLUS loose some of their serbian ch's soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" />

The owner of TV Plus is Serbian. I cant see that happening <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

I guess we just have to wait and see.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 15. December 2004, 11:55 AM: Message edited by: Liski ]</small>

But if they do, it’d mean that they have been bullied out of competition, which would make UBI the meanie then, wouldn’t it?! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

One of our labourers today told me that TV Plus wan't the Tarbs boxes for no reason except to stop the future customer connecting to UBI knowing they have no new mentor boxes yet.<br />Talk about rumours getting around.

Sounds about right to me. I feel sorry for the customers when they want to go to UBI and can't as TV Plus took it off them. Can you imagine how pissed off the customers are going to be when they can't get it back from TV Plus.

Interesting, not more dirty tactics.

TV Plus are going to using irdeto 2, so why bother collection the mentor outside other reasons.???

seriously, can tvplus do that, who owns the boxes, UBI, PWC etc?????

Since PWC haven't picked up the boxes I would say the customer. It' been over 3 months.

It is interesting, Horizon TV+ has no interest in Tarbs boxes, they leave them to customers. Why? UBI is not a competitor for them because it does not planning to have Russian service in the near future.

Hi,Liski! Is M-360 XTarbs will work after Rehit<br />on UBI and the same M100<br />Thank's

All,<br />It's the customer’s decision to give it up. If they want a discount, trade the box in, if not keep the box and pay the full price. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br />Not that I agree with paying any install at all, you see. I recon all providers have to wake up to themselves and if they bind you to a contract then it should be a free install!!!<br />If it's on a monthly basis, then yeah sure, charge for the equipment as you don't know how long they'll be on for. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

Yeah, same as foxtel, they offer free installation even with 6 months contract when they have specials. So, why the heck they don't! Most probably, they know the majority of the ppl joining to TV+, ex-tarbs customers who have allready got all installation done as well as boxes. They are so smart as they're planning to kill many birds with one bullet! Offering discount for an existing installation is making double profit as all the equipment is allready there, plus holding ex-tarbs box is another tick for non-returning UBI customer...<br /> <br /> <small>[ 16. December 2004, 07:59 AM: Message edited by: fsking ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Vlad:<br /><strong> But if they do, it’d mean that they have been bullied out of competition, which would make UBI the meanie then, wouldn’t it?! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Big difference in being mean and having an exclusive contract.

Exclusive?<br />And why would they do that, now? So they can charge like a wounded bull, perhaps? Maybe they are afraid of competition?<br /><br />...food for thought! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

In essence, don’t even try to be a smart arse with me m8!<br />I haven’t lost a discussion yet. Furthermore if you get me on a roll, I may even expose the providers for what they really are… <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

I’d like to have this discussion two to three years later when all you service providers “sit at a round table and count your winnings/losses” after the last customer disconnects from you as they finally get their feed, almost free, from some young new company, radically different in their approach to business, not like the already 60 year old mentality of all you blood suckers.<br />I am sick of the schemes you guy’s come up with, with only one intention…how to con the customer.<br />The customer is your livelihood man!!!<br />Don’t bite the hand that feeds you God damn it!!! When will you guys learn this. The concept, for all you illiterates, has a name. It’s called CUSTOMER SERVICE or CUSTOMER FOCUS. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Vlad:<br /><strong> In essence, don’t even try to be a smart arse with me m8!<br />I haven’t lost a discussion yet. Furthermore if you get me on a roll, I may even expose the providers for what they really are… <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Few post later and a *yawn*<br /><br />Why hold back?

…and furthermore, now that you have my blood boiling.<br /><br />There is no doubt in my mind that Mr Boulos is a good businessman, entrepreneur and that his intention, infect may well be, to burn millions of dollars to help the folk get their “dose” of overseas content, but I am of the belief that if he knew what idiots work for him, and who he has presenting the face of UBI, you guys would be out of a job so fast you wouldn’t know what hit you. I’m pretty sure he has no clue how conniving you guy’s actually are. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

Vlad! I am with you 100%<br />Regards

Liski! Direct Q for you<br />What happend today in UBI - they send a signal and<br />some customers with M3110 -got nothing on the<br />screen?<br />Regards

vlad79,<br /><br />Long queue

Liski! even for MYTV+

Yes even My TV Plus had some issues.

liski!for whay long I,like a customer, will<br />wait? May be better to change to PAS8 for Horizon<br />and remember is X-mass soon and nobody wanted<br />stay without nice show from my and other countries<br />Regards

vlad79,<br /><br />The problem should be fixed by now. If you still have problems call My TV Plus and they will be able to rehit the IRD for you.<br /><br />> As of 1150 should be fine<br /> <br /> <small>[ 17. December 2004, 09:50 AM: Message edited by: Liski ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Vlad:<br /><strong> …and furthermore, now that you have my blood boiling.<br /><br />There is no doubt in my mind that Mr Boulos is a good businessman, entrepreneur and that his intention, infect may well be, to burn millions of dollars to help the folk get their “dose” of overseas content, but I am of the belief that if he knew what idiots work for him, and who he has presenting the face of UBI, you guys would be out of a job so fast you wouldn’t know what hit you. I’m pretty sure he has no clue how conniving you guy’s actually are. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">OK vlad havent read your posts very much but does this mean u are a pas8 future customer or no I take that back you are favoring PAS8 as in mytv+...or whateva (lang u speak) there is a little bunch there...Just to make sure <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Liski!What is 1150? and why i have to contact TV+?<br />If i stay on B6<br />Regards

B6????

Phil! B3 (three)<br />I have to bay a new keyboard<br />Regards

I have the same problem, I blame the Keyboard too.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> I have the same problem, I blame the Keyboard too. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Bloody Mr. GATE$ <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> He put only two keys between numbers 3 & 6... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by night_flight:<br /><strong> OK vlad havent read your posts very much but does this mean u are a pas8 future customer or no I take that back you are favoring PAS8 as in mytv+...or whateva (lang u speak) there is a little bunch there...Just to make sure <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Night_Flight,<br /><br />No, I do not subscribe to any “party”.<br />If I give out my opinion, be sure it has no bias one way or the other.<br />My belief is that Boulos is letting some adolescent hackers run his company without any supervision.<br />Mind you I don’t know what the situation is with TV+ or the other competitors, but be sure, I always speak my mind! If for no other reason then to open peoples eyes to some facts they should, in my opinion, know <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Vlad,<br /><br />How would you know how it is within the UBI building? There are no adolescent hackers.<br /><br />I just can't believe how each topic goes off topic, everyt single time.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 18. December 2004, 09:48 AM: Message edited by: Liski ]</small>

ok vlad...i understand.....

Vlad can be so full of himself sometimes...

Full, how full, maybe he is full of booze.

and shit.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

Very funny. Forgot to laugh. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />Hang on, let me tickle myself. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />