Scorpio...<br /><br />The pricing that the new skies pleb quoted you is not correct.. What Phil is saying is closer to the truth,,<br /><br />Oh there is 2 sets of fees per customer 1 for the Smart Card and 1 for the Ir Soft Cell Software inside the settop box...<br /><br />Get some change out of $350k up front and you may be real lucky..

FYI if you need some MDS boxes I do know that Mike and co do have some on the ship in transit,,,,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Satfreak:<br /><strong> Scorpio...<br /><br />The pricing that the new skies pleb quoted you is not correct.. What Phil is saying is closer to the truth,,<br /><br />Oh there is 2 sets of fees per customer 1 for the Smart Card and 1 for the Ir Soft Cell Software inside the settop box...<br /><br />Get some change out of $350k up front and you may be real lucky.. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Have any concrete figures? I don't like guessing.<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br />BTW, is the customer paying for Soft Cell when he buys the box, and therefore IRDs with embeded CAMs are more expensive?<br /> <br /> <small>[ 12. December 2004, 08:32 AM: Message edited by: scorpio ]</small>

If you wish to own and run your own conditional access you can bank on the following with very basic features<br /><br />$380k - $450k upfront<br />$18 per card<br />$19 for softcell (settop box software licence)<br /><br />Then about $50k per year there after in ongoing support / management fees.<br /><br />If you want any additional feeatures like "Card Marrage, Pairing" +50K upfront.<br /><br /><br />ALL PRICING IN USD>>>><br /><br />FOXTEL/OPTUS/AUSTAR/AUORA all have Ir Softcell embeded into IRD's<br /><br />This is the cheapest platfrom when you have 50,000 - 100,000 + customers you can pay anything from 1,mil and upnwards<br /> <br /> <small>[ 12. December 2004, 09:11 AM: Message edited by: Satfreak ]</small>

Ok. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />Now we getting somewhere ...<br /><br />Do you have any Web links for those above?<br /><br />Correct me if I'm wrong, is the Softcell part of the receiver with embeded CAM?<br />When somebody buy eg Humax IR Ace, do they pay at the same time Softcell licence (included as the part of the STB price) ?

All included by the manufacturer to the box price if the box has embedded CAM. If there is only PCMCIA slot for the CAM then you pay it included to the CAM price without knowing there is a portion of it.

Like I said going to Irdeto 2 would be good but I think UBI hasn't got the spare cash to do so at the moment. And most important irdeto 2 is not safe and every day more and more are getting broadband/ADSL and it has a liking to Irdeto 2 and others encryptions except for NDS and Mentor if you know what I mean.

By the way while UBI as has ship full of Mentors coming to Australia and on that same ship is the New Dreamboxes 7020 and 7080 with duel tuners and DVD burners built in. I love it!!!!

I would like to see ALL WMI channels on UBI <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

That will never happen.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> By the way while UBI as has ship full of Mentors coming to Australia and on that same ship is the New Dreamboxes 7020 and 7080 with duel tuners and DVD burners built in. I love it!!!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Austech info forum will have a Mass sale of the new model Dreambox's coming soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> No doubt about it they are the best on this planet, no other box can match them <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Yep i'll drink to that.!

Yep great units especially with the new MDS software plugin <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> oops...!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> By the way while UBI as has ship full of Mentors coming to Australia and on that same ship is the New Dreamboxes 7020 and 7080 with duel tuners and DVD burners built in. I love it!!!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">let me guess phill how much is the dream box..1000, 1500??? yes i d love one of those too BUT.........

dan04 just like to ask you a question do you work for ubi or do you have any interest in any way in ubi

I doubt he works for UBI or any other TV broadcaster whome

no I dont work for UBI

told ya whome

If we get this one"BHT1 (balkan-bosnia)there will be at least another couple of thousand subscribers.

true I agree on that one...I think croatians at least have HTV but muslims dont have a channel at all..I recken they (UBI/TV+) could pick up sum subscribers just by having that channel

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by rex68:<br /><strong> If we get this one"BHT1 (balkan-bosnia)there will be at least another couple of thousand subscribers. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'd prefer OBN (Bosnian TV) over BHT but more channels will definately bring more subscribers...

Polish channels<br />- TV Polonia<br />- PolSat<br />- TVN<br /><br />What about radio channels...<br />- PR 3<br />- RMF FM<br />- Color<br /><br />Do we know if they are going to have some radio channels.<br /><br />Also some English channels - Movie Network, MTV, etc....<br /><br />Boggie

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'd prefer OBN (Bosnian TV) over BHT but more channels will definately bring more subscribers... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No mate,we have enough of music and similar stuff we need more sport(soccer 2006 qualifayers,and other sports wich are almost everyday on BHT1)<br />PINK,BN,BK are usualy music and related stuff..

i would like an Italian Package, especially Rai International & Telepace ( Italian Catholic Channel ) both formerly on Tarbs. Maltese Channel would be great too. Also English Channels - News & Sport would be good. My mother paid 12 months ahead for Tarbs but only got 2 months out of it.<br />i had Tarbs for more than a 1 1/2 years, for my wife who is Filipino. We now subscribe to the Filipino Mux on Pas 8, $33 a month through abs-cbn.com, the number 1 channel in the Philippines, remixed as TFC - The Filipino Channel. Other Filipino Channels there are ANC ( News ), CinemaOne ( Movies ) and Pinoy Central ( Mixture of things ). i am a new member to this forum. i have enjoyed reading most of the posts in the last couple of days. Wonder what Filipino channels UBI are going to get? Probably GMA (this channel runs lengths 2nd in the Philippines)

i would really like to see StarTV added to the Turkish package!!!<br />and also Dubai Sports because it is also a soccer heaven<br />(even though i wouldnt understand arabic)

dubai sports is FTA on asiasat 2 but u need a big dish for it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <br /><br />http://www.lyngsat.com/asia2.html

Hey guys, what about Italian channels?? any news about them coming soon??

Cuckoo33,<br /><br />At the moment there is no word about Italian Package.

I would like to add one more channel to Turkish wish list.<br />CiNE5

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by gerard:<br /><strong> i would like an Italian Package, especially Rai International & Telepace ( Italian Catholic Channel ) both formerly on Tarbs. Maltese Channel would be great too. Also English Channels - News & Sport would be good. My mother paid 12 months ahead for Tarbs but only got 2 months out of it.<br />i had Tarbs for more than a 1 1/2 years, for my wife who is Filipino. We now subscribe to the Filipino Mux on Pas 8, $33 a month through abs-cbn.com, the number 1 channel in the Philippines, remixed as TFC - The Filipino Channel. Other Filipino Channels there are ANC ( News ), CinemaOne ( Movies ) and Pinoy Central ( Mixture of things ). i am a new member to this forum. i have enjoyed reading most of the posts in the last couple of days. Wonder what Filipino channels UBI are going to get? Probably GMA (this channel runs lengths 2nd in the Philippines) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Ask ubi for some free time because you lost big time at TARBS <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Liski:<br /><strong> Cuckoo33,<br /><br />At the moment there is no word about Italian Package. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Liski, <br /><br />Looks like you know a lot about UBI internals.<br />When is the latino package comming ?<br />Which channels?<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

joe_br,<br /><br />It's been reported so many times what the Latino Package will be.

any news about greek channels?

olympiakos2002 call WMI they are exclusive distributer of Antenna and will be introducing new Greek Channels towards the end of Jan,..<br /><br /><br />Regards

Liski, I've heard that UBI is going to bring some more Turkish channels like TGRT & STAR-TV soon. Is it true?...