There is new Macedonian channel coming to TV plus,<br />and other one Croatian to UBI.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by fsking:<br /><strong> First of all use Hi! NOT Hey! If an FTA channel is transferred from EU to here with its broadcasting rights as TARBS dis and hold the rights then was claimed to be the owner's had all the rights. So, where the money sinks? But we are still forced to pay lots of dollars for the channels might be free to UBI! Right. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Its not that straight forward fsking. What about setting up the teleport including headend, conditional access, dishes etc..<br /><br />If UBI won't bring in these channels, you think someone else will and charge you peanuts for it.. Get real.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

Yes but this equation doesn't add up either:<br /><br />UBI $60 = couple FTA channels and no sport included<br />Foxtel $70 = dozens megabucks channels and all the sport included

UBI = hopefully profitable<br />Foxtel = have run at a loss since creation

Yes it was in the papers again foxtel lost $40 Million and thats after it campaigned on slimming the company. In my opinion Foxtel and Austar will be in big trouble in the next 12 months, mind you telstra's side of it wants out but you would have to be a lunatic to buy their share. Foxtel alone have lost over $250 million since start up and nothing will change. Till today Foxtel are full of FAT fish getting their Fat wages. GET RID OF THEM, if they ran the Business like UBI they would only have 100 Staff MAX. FOXTEL you're TOO EXPENSIVE !!!!!!!!!! you will drown in your debt or are you waiting to screw Austar to take over their customers?.<br />Now wonder they wanted TARBS and its English channels out of the way.

As a customer I don't care if a business runs at a loss, it's their problem, all I care about is getting the more for less. Advice to all, if you find a cheaper product or service then jump onto it straight away and enjoy while it lasts, otherwise you'll regret it later. Don't be loyal to your existing providers, they don't care about you, all they want is your wallet.

Yes its there problem.<br />The problem is if they run at a loss for to long whats the good of being in business.

And who will bring the ethnic channels in for ethnic ppl in Australia.<br /><br />Globecast is not doing it for free mind you. They are charging the programme providers for satellite capacity etc.. to bring it in. And the programme providers do not see any monetary return from their investment either. They would rather spend this money on producing programmes.<br /><br />TV programming is not like every other product that anyone can copy and sell.

Big Chief, None of the Pay-TV provider is doing ethnic programming here, its like copy & paste, drag & drop business. The only change is their logo on top of the original channels one...

Yes its more passing through.. what I am refering to is, you cannot compare it to say buying blank dvd's.<br /><br />You can't get Turkish programming from China...

Most of those channels are FTA in Europe but bringing them through transponders needs payment to the sat owners and also transmission licences is another major cost to the companies...

Thats what I am tryng to tell Nick..

Why not use the cheaper ground transmission options? I wouldn't mind a delay of few seconds or even minutes if it's going to halve the cost.

What ground transmission? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

fibre transmission links...

You don't call that ground transmission. And thats not cheap either..

Actually, UBI is getting more and more channels over fibre. Quality is better and costs are lower. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Great, now all we need is a 6M speed broadband and a good streaming software to get the channels into our living rooms for really cheap. Just imaging the savings generated by eliminating the sat uplink/transmission and other related costs.

Not everyone has broadband...

And fast computer...

Apparently Optus is working on pay TV over ADSL. Will it include UBI content? Someone must have a clue, come on give us a hint.

Unlikely to happen for quite a while Nick , ADSL at 1.5 mb is far too slow and thats generally the fastest most providers offer.<br /><br />Imagine the bandwidth bill.

I meant new ADSL2+ which is in pipeline for this year.

Too slow a roll out , most will be waiting years.<br /><br />ADSL2 roll out is only to selected exchanges , I read Primus's exchange list for this year and its not big .<br /><br />Most will be waiting a few years. We are well behind most of the civilised world <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Boring:<br /><strong> ...We are well behind most of the civilised world <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Noooo... We already using COLOUR TV, FM radio is developing rapidly... In a few years (with some luck) we will enjoy Teletext on more than one terrestrial channel... Who knows what is next... Maybe Teletext on Satellite CHs? WOW !<br /><br />PS: For people who didn't notice, I'm being sarcastic... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

I don't know about the rest of Australia but Sydney's okay, we even have wireless ISPs. I'd say blame Telstra for that and the lack of competition.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nick:<br /><strong> I don't know about the rest of Australia but Sydney's okay, we even have wireless ISPs. I'd say blame Telstra for that and the lack of competition. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Lots of us sat c band lovers hate wireless isp's, as for Telstra you watch the price drop as soon as internet over the mains starts in the end of this year, forget wireless internet wherever there is 240Volts you will be able to get the internet. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

We, in all the capitals of OZ, and spreading rapidly, now have iBurst®.<br /><br />It is registered freq of 1.9GHz and static IP where ever you are in Australia. PCMCIA on notebooks and standard desktop unit too. At up to 1Mbps (firmware upgrade in the future to 16Mbps)...It rocks!!! <br /><br />Not that that has anything to do with sat TV over IP, hehehe <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />