Actually the guy has a point. Most channels cost UBI/Tarbs nothing and, as far as I remember, Tarbs wasn't paying the sat fees either hence they pocketed all the money. Who's to say that now the same won't happen?

UBI do have to pay for the channels here plus the uplink costs.

How do people think channels arrive here ? Via Qantas or something. NOTHING is for free.

how many times does this have to be explained ?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nick:<br /><strong> Actually the guy has a point. Most channels cost UBI/Tarbs nothing and, as far as I remember, Tarbs wasn't paying the sat fees either hence they pocketed all the money. Who's to say that now the same won't happen? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Nick <br />How can you not pay for Sat fees?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> TARBS were paying transponder cost (Sat fees) but were hehind payments only because the new owner of Panamsat (ONLY THREE MONTHS) which includes the Famous Stooge Murdoch (we all know him) decided to increase transponder cost for TARBS without TARBS approval and because TARBS was behind in its payments of around 4.5 Million they the owners of Panamsat Yes Murdoch too pulled the plug on them. Mind you foxtel and Austar are over 200 Million in the red has anyone pulled their transponders.<br />See Foxtels Mr Murdoch was watching his computers where ethnic people were disconnecting by the droves from Foxtel mainly because TARBS was picking them up with their new English package of the Movie Channels and the rest, and as you know most cant even afford one pay tv provider and definitely won't have two. Dirty business <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br />A little note. Go to the video shot and hire the DVD OUTFOXED and see what a good man Murdoch is. Yes this DVD was not allowed to be advertised or even talked about on ANY<br />of Murdoch papers or other interest.<br />Talk about one man that wants to control the world with his bias SHIT!

I tought the same thing as you Nick but got my lesson when I throw the questions & comments about freebees FTAs. There are major costs/issues to transmit overseas channels here as explained earlier..

Yeah, yeah, and we always come to the same conclusion (at least I do). Internet will free us from all the foxes and similar animals.

I believe out of the 25 million owed to pas, 20mil was paid with 5 to go....<br /><br />Only if the owners of TARBS didn't steal all the profits DAM!<br /><br />Ironic as it sounds the owners lost more like a couple of hundred million.<br /><br />DAM THIEF'S!<br /> <br /> <small>[ 18. February 2005, 09:09 AM: Message edited by: Bedouin ]</small>

Enddd...<br />They are still enjoying very luxuary life.....

Nick take your finger out of your ass.. nothing but shit...

One sat channel (compressed), of mediocre quality is 4.5Mb/sec. and your ADSL is, at best 1Mbit/sec. I doubt it&#8217;ll come any time soon <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad...

Yes thats why i said 4.5 mil, why in the F..k would you want to pull the plug when your 75% of the payment was only paid weeks before pulling the plug.<br />It makes no sence, It makes Murdoch and Fuc.tel happy but at the end of the day Panamsat are the BIG LOSERS!!! who is hiring there spare transponders that were used by TARBS now dickheads.

Vlad most have 1.5Mbit/s upgraded system...But as you said, there is nothing available to reach the speed enough to compete with the satellite yet...

DSLAMs are already near you, capable of 8 Mbps. And Phil mentioned before, Energy Australia has run a successful trial of 200 Mbps BPL (Broadband over Power Lines).

Yes and I bet that scares arrogant Telstra, this will be real competition for them, but as long as its not expensive it won't be long before you have EnergexNet but for the start the speed will be limited the word is saying

i heard that foxtel had plans of broadcasting over the net in 2007.<br /><br />btw there are already minor applications of this system in Canberra. <br /><br />like this... <br /><br />http://www.transact.com.au/forhome/transtv.asp<br /> <br /> <small>[ 18. February 2005, 05:22 PM: Message edited by: ShaRp ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Big Chief:<br /><strong> Nick take your finger out of your ass.. nothing but shit... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Big Chief,<br />Why you never seem to be able to engage in any intelligent and meaningful discussion?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nick:<br /><strong> DSLAMs are already near you, capable of 8 Mbps. And Phil mentioned before, Energy Australia has run a successful trial of 200 Mbps BPL (Broadband over Power Lines). </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Already had this conversation with you Nick , MOST people will be waiting a long time for anything more than 1.5 ! DSLAMS are in a limited amount of exchanges and the list to be added is not super big. The majority of Australians will be waiting years for 8Mbps.<br /><br />Broadband over power lines has been trialled for at least the last 5 years , I remember getting excited about it in 1999. It still hasnt happened.<br /><br />There are still lots of parts of Australia that cannot even get ADSL , I have only had it for 6 months and I am probably only 60 kms from Melbourne.

QUOTE]Big Chief,<br />Why you never seem to be able to engage in any intelligent and meaningful discussion? [/QB][/QUOTE]<br /><br />Intelligence and meaningful discussion, I have heard that one before.. HMmm TARBS did not pay for transponders... who said that... How intelligent can that be..

...but then you have to account for all the links up to your destination are capable of delivering the bandwidth (QoS). Most times you may have a 1.5Mbps to your provider and they only have a 2Mbps link to the web and anywhere up to 1000 customers <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Boring:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nick:<br /><strong> DSLAMs are already near you, capable of 8 Mbps. And Phil mentioned before, Energy Australia has run a successful trial of 200 Mbps BPL (Broadband over Power Lines). </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Already had this conversation with you Nick , MOST people will be waiting a long time for anything more than 1.5 ! DSLAMS are in a limited amount of exchanges and the list to be added is not super big. The majority of Australians will be waiting years for 8Mbps.<br /><br />Broadband over power lines has been trialled for at least the last 5 years , I remember getting excited about it in 1999. It still hasnt happened.<br /><br />There are still lots of parts of Australia that cannot even get ADSL , I have only had it for 6 months and I am probably only 60 kms from Melbourne. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I still don't have ADSL and I'm only 19 k north of Brisbane, Telstra have told me the exchange will be upgraded in March-April, now its been put back to June-July <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />