Who wants the Balkan package? Nobody.<br /><br />Us Serbs want the Serbian package.<br />Greeks want the Greek package.<br />Bosnians want the Bosnian package.<br />etc. etc. etc.<br /><br />So why are UBI creating the Balkan package? Very simple, think about the following scenario. Let's say the Balkan package has 2 Serbian channels and us Serbs sign up. After a while UBI lose both Serbian channels but the Balkan package survives because of the other Balkan channels in it and us Serbs wouldn't be able to break the contract and would be forced to keep paying subscriptions until the end of the contract. It's all in the terms and conditions. Now UBI wouldn't be able to do that if it was the Serbian package, no Serbian channels means no Serbian package, full stop.<br /><br />A message to UBI, us Serbs do not want the Balkan package, we want the Serbian package. Give us the Serbian package and then you'd be able to compete with TV Plus.

I don't even see the point in this post. Your scenario has nothing to do with the reason behind calling it Balkan. Did you ever think the reason for the name is cause all the countries fall under the name of Balkan?<br /><br />Bosian, Croatian, Macedonian and Serbian fall under Balkan.<br /><br />Greek falls under Greek.<br /><br />The UBI Balkan Package will remain the "Balkan Package".<br /> <br /> <small>[ 30. August 2005, 07:09 AM: Message edited by: LISKI iTV ]</small>

I READ MORE THAN I POST BUT HEY LISKI IS RIGHT HERE.<br /><br />THE BALKANS LANGUAGES ARE 70% THE SAME - DIALECTS MOSTLY LIKE QLDER'S, VIC'S, STHAUS'S, ETC.<br />MY PRIMARY BALKAN LANGUAGE IS BULGARIAN ALI 'RAZUMEM I PRICAM SRPSKI I ZBORVAM PO MAKEDONSKI' SO TO ME ANY BALKAN CHANNELS ARE A BONUS. I WAS BORN IN AUSTRALIA AND TO HAVE ACCESS TO MY FAMILIES HERITAGE IS SOMETHING ALL OF US SHOULD TREASURE SO STOP THE JIBES ABOUT WHICH SERVICE YOU WANT - BALKANS IS BALKANS. THANKS

im not having a go at you Liski but just out of curiosity... how do u define Balkan? if you look up the map you see several countries in Balkan region (including Turkey, Greece, Albania, Romania, etc.).<br /><br />From ur definition I see old Yugoslavia equals Balkan for u (or for UBI) which is imo entirely wrong.

I call it Balkans packages at it confusing for most of non Balkans people (Bosian, Croatian, Macedonian, Serbian)what a collection.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nick:<br /><strong> Who wants the Balkan package? Nobody.<br /><br />Us Serbs want the Serbian package.<br />Greeks want the Greek package.<br />Bosnians want the Bosnian package.<br />etc. etc. etc.<br /><br />So why are UBI creating the Balkan package? Very simple, think about the following scenario. Let's say the Balkan package has 2 Serbian channels and us Serbs sign up. After a while UBI lose both Serbian channels but the Balkan package survives because of the other Balkan channels in it and us Serbs wouldn't be able to break the contract and would be forced to keep paying subscriptions until the end of the contract. It's all in the terms and conditions. Now UBI wouldn't be able to do that if it was the Serbian package, no Serbian channels means no Serbian package, full stop.<br /><br />A message to UBI, us Serbs do not want the Balkan package, we want the Serbian package. Give us the Serbian package and then you'd be able to compete with TV Plus. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">A scenario???<br />What happens if you get your Serbian package of 2 channels and get thrown the rest of Balkans channels for nothing would you refuse them?.<br />But if you have concerns about this, this is the reason why we have this forum so UBI can be given feedback. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Posted by Nick </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">A message to UBI, us Serbs do not want the Balkan package, we want the Serbian package. Give us the Serbian package and then you'd be able to compete with TV Plus.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I agree 100% with Nick. Why should we serbs be forced to pay for croatian or even muslim channels >>??<br />If you have serbian package I would be very happy to subscribe to UBI <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Your not being FORCED to pay for Croatian or Muslim channels. They are part of the PLUS package.<br /><br />UBI really only have 2 packages - BASIC or PLUS. Then they are branched off to sub package just to group them together.

Is this the reason why when you get the PLUS you get everything.?

Yep

See most don't understand that so can you explain it so all can understand it with all packages.

There is nothing to explain.<br /><br />Everyone is advised there is 2 packages: BASIC or PLUS<br /><br />PLUS: http://www.ubiworldtv.com/packageBreakdown.asp?DisplayType=Plus<br /><br />BASIC: http://www.ubiworldtv.com/packageBreakdown.asp?DisplayType=Basic<br /><br />PLUS compared to BASIC: http://www.ubiworldtv.com/packageBreakdown.asp?DisplayType=Table

The public reading this forum don't know that. and since i noticed there is always 20 times more guest reading this forum than members who are afraid to join and ask it is good to see the package breakdown above for guest to read.

Most poeople today are scared to join a forum and ask question, all they want to do is read and read a lot more and sometimes when they ring UBI or another company they get conflicting answers for whatever reason.<br />This is the reason why I read and ask questions in this forum, my coward relation won't join all they do is bate me to ask questions and they sit home and wait for a reply.<br />Thankyou Liski.<br />UBI must the the only pay tv company in Australia that has a representative willing to answer our questions on the internet there and then.

I love my job and I loved the idea behind TARBS and now UBI. So I'm here to help and make sure everyone is enjoying watching TV from their home land.

So for Basic package I get MKTV only? <br /><br />And for PLUS I get 1 Bulgarian and 2 Muslim channels. <br /><br />So far Zero (0) Serbian channels. Don't know about the rest of you guys, but to put it in a way the rest can understand... A Serb does not understand Bulgarian, Turkish, Romanian, Albanian nor the language the Bosnian Muslims speak. It's like expecting the Poms to be able to speak French (and vice versa) by the law of proximity <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad...

Vlad,<br /><br />At this time that is the Balkan package. I will say it once more. More channels will be added to the Balkan package in the coming weeks.

It all make sence but you should wait until UBI has all its cards on the tables before making judgement<br />on what they will be showing.

added to the basic or the plus package?<br /><br />no use adding them to the plus as the basic, as is, is useless...<br /><br />Vlad...

I've been told that there will be 3 Balkan channels broadcasting via Telstar 10. I hope that all 3 will be Serbian (I hope RTS or BKTV), Montenegrin (RTCG), or Croatian. <br /><br />I really couldn't care less about watching Bosnian TV - their programs are for the most part boring, and in the case of TV Hyatt filled with hate speech against Republika Srpska and Bosnian Serbs. No thanks.

Afrisat,<br /><br />You never know but I highly doubt that BKTV will make a return to UBI. I wonder why TV Plus can't bring it over as they do BHT1

Hummmm Politics A few have asked me that.

Hayat is not Muslim channel, they are Bosnian. Many Serbians working for Hayat.Never heard Hayat say something wrong about Serbians, only war criminals, if you are one of them you are right this channels is not for you.You have to stop talking bullshit and be happy with what you have, I am just sick of nationality and racist bullshit talk. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br /> I ASKED YOU TO REMOVE YOU NICK TV+ AND YOU DID NOT COMPLY <br /><br />Be happy my friend we are all same, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />POLITICS IS BITCH <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 30. August 2005, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: P Debono ]</small>

TV+ you are right on that one.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by TV +:<br /><strong> Hayat is not Muslim channel, they are Bosnian. Many Serbians working for Hayat.Never heard Hayat say something wrong about Serbians, only war criminals, if you are one of them you are right this channels is not for you.You have to stop talking bullshit and be happy with what you have, I am just sick of nationality and racist bullshit talk. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br /><br />Be happy my friend we are all same, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br />POLITICS IS BITCH <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">TV+ Can't you find another nick than that? Please reply Otherwise this time I will ban you. You don't have permission to use TV Plus or even TV+

You have 5 Minutes 8.05 your gone if you can't do what I ask

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by P Debono:<br /><strong> What happens if you get your Serbian package of 2 channels and get thrown the rest of Balkans channels for nothing would you refuse them? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes, I'd refuse them because they only distract me from watching my own channels. Why should I watch foreign channels if I could watch my own? The only scenario where I could possibly see myself watching other Balkan channels is in a case of a major sporting event being broadcast. Hell, in that case I'd watch a Chinese channel given no other choice.

This is were some of us were lucky back in the TARBS days, Most from Egypt spoke Arabic.Italian,Maltese.<br />Only Maltese was missing from the TARBS line Now I wonder about UBI , Hummmmmm.Any Maltesers out their. <br />So I was and today am happy.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by P Debono:<br /><strong> You have 5 Minutes 8.05 your gone if you can't do what I ask </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Going, going, Gone!!!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by TV +:<br /><strong> Many Serbians working for Hayat. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Wrong, I've been watching this channel for almost a year now and I'm yet to see a Serbian name in the studio crew list, or god forbid a Serbian singer promoting his or her new album. Unlike the Serbian channels which are open to everyone. TV+ I think you're being sarcastic here.

how can you be watching this channel for a year? The channel started 22nd March this year

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by alcatron:<br /><strong> how can you be watching this channel for a year? The channel started 22nd March this year </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Obviously you missed a main point.

what do you mean?

Not sarcastic, Nick. He is using "ready made", diplomatic one liners, created in the Tito era, that they fed the Serb to shut him up, whenever he felt he has, yet again, been delt a raw deal! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />I recon Hitler should have worked on weekends too and get rid of all the "commies"!<br /><br />Vlad...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Darth Vader:<br /><strong> Not sarcastic, Nick. He is using "ready made", diplomatic one liners, created in the Tito era, that they fed the Serb to shut him up, whenever he felt he has, yet again, been delt a raw deal! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />I recon Hitler should have worked on weekends too and get rid of all the "commies"!<br /><br />Vlad... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Vlad,<br /><br />YOU SHOULD BE HITLER SECRETARY.ALL PEOPLE FRO EX YU IS SICK OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.<br />WHEN WAS TITO ALIVE EVERYONE IS LIVE BETTER FOR SURE.TODAY EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT GOOD OLD TIME, EVEN ON PINK BNTV AND OTHER CHANNELS<br /><br />OK MR. HITLER OR MR.MILOSEVIC, NO DIFFERENCES <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

Mr +<br /> Identify yourself to Liski and I will allow you to sell them. UBI and this forum need to know who is selling that amount of TARBS boxes.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 31. August 2005, 06:38 PM: Message edited by: P Debono ]</small>

Again you are breaking forums rules, you just cannot come to a forum and start posting that you want to sell Tarbs boxes. Please explain you have 15 minutes.

yes that amount is a commercial quantity<br /> <br /> <small>[ 31. August 2005, 06:41 PM: Message edited by: LAZERSAT ]</small>

At the risk of diverging from the subject of this thread, I will answer you comment “+” (Or whatever you name is).<br /><br />Ex Yugoslavia, was what it was because the USA and partially Europe wanted it to be.<br />That fraze “everyone in ex Yu lived happily while under Tito…bla, bla”, is a whole load of shit!<br /><br />I know you folk that have been living there can’t (or don’t) want to realise that you have been living a life in a big lie for so long. What good life? What happier life?<br />Do you really think that Yugoslavia had such a good economy and everyone was able to get paid “a good wage” because the firm they worked in was profitable? Wake up boy! Yugoslavia has been given big development loans (that they haven’t paid off yet and perhaps, never will). That loan has been split into 6<strong>equal</strong> pieces and handed out to the republics. Instead of using that money to develop the country, they used to subsidise peoples pays! Sure it was “great”. Rock up to work or don’t, does not really matter. Take a couple of month’s sick leave to do your crops? Sure, no problem. Who cares about work. You could afford to go on holidays to the Adrantic sea... and all that. There is a big <strong>but</strong> here, though.<br />There came a day when the repayments had to be made to the countries that had given Yu the loan. This is when shit starts happening.<br /><br />That Tito, couldn’t give a rats **** about the state of the economy. In fact, he made sure that the countries Dinar goes to buggery. He, in fact hated Serbs guts! Even when creating Yugoslavia he made sure Serbia was further divided into a smaller Serbia and two provinces: Kosovo and Vojvodina. “These are just administrative borders”, he said. “Don’t think of them as borders of splitting people apart. Think of them as borders joining people together”, he uttered, explaining why he cut half of Serbia off and attached it to Croatia and Bosnia & Hercegovina. Ever asked yourself “Why is there a Republika Srpska and a Kraina?”. This is why! That communist bastard was tailoring a map that suited him! This is just the beginning. I get sick of even thinking of that idiot.<br /><br />Tell the world, “+” how the communists taught you there in Yugoslavia to grab hold of a button on your shirt, whenever you saw an Orthodox priest! Yes folks, the commies said, “To see a Priest is a jinks!”. Explain to them that the communists ripped out every connection with your religion and beliefs.<br /><br />So “+”, don’t even try selling your communist propaganda to us here in Oz. If you like it so much there, why the “truck” did you come here? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad...

99% of ex you was have better life back in YU.<br /><br />You know who is unhappy with ex YU? <br />Answer,<br />Ex Yugoslavians who is have bad life back in they countries, who is have no house and what to eat etc.<br /><br />Today that sort of people is very happy in this country, for them is imported to have eat, drink, and car. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br />Ban me now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br /><br />I am a communist idiot! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 01. September 2005, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Darth Vader ]</small>