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#17843
Fri 30 Sep 2005 05:09:AM
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I like her LOL. She is one fine personality. <br /><br />Do you think there is a chance UBI might get ANT 1 aswell in the future?
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#17844
Fri 30 Sep 2005 05:12:AM
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Not sure will see what happens when the channels come on <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />
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#17845
Fri 30 Sep 2005 06:59:AM
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Is Cyprus Sat going to be permanently FTA or is it going to encrypt? There seems to have been a lot of talk about it being FTA, but Phil reckons it will not.<br /><br />A lot of people in the Cypriot community believe it will be FTA.
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#17846
Fri 30 Sep 2005 07:27:AM
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we will see wat happens but at the moment things are looking good 4 da greek people, yayy
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#17847
Fri 30 Sep 2005 08:22:AM
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<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Problem solved. Well done UBI. <br /><br />Cyprus sat back on air. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
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#17848
Fri 30 Sep 2005 02:01:PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Evagoras Paligaridis:<br /><strong> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Problem solved. Well done UBI. <br /><br />Cyprus sat back on air. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Told you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
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#17849
Sat 01 Oct 2005 07:22:AM
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#17850
Mon 03 Oct 2005 01:04:AM
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Can someone shed some light on whether Cyprus Sat is to remain FTA? There seems to be a lot of talk about this in the Cypriot Community. Some people think it will be fta and others do not. <br /><br />Liski or Phil, perhaps one of you guys can clear up this matter. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
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#17851
Mon 03 Oct 2005 02:43:AM
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Well Cyprus Sat themselves haven't said anything about it remaining FTA all they have said is that the signal is now transmitted in Australia<br /><br />We will know when the Greek Package gets encrypted
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#17852
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:02:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Evagoras Paligaridis:<br /><strong> Is Cyprus Sat going to be permanently FTA or is it going to encrypt? There seems to have been a lot of talk about it being FTA, but Phil reckons it will not.<br /><br />A lot of people in the Cypriot community believe it will be FTA. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well the way i look at it Cyprus Sat might be free to air in that part of the world but someone has to pay for it to get out to Australia. After all is Cyprus sat paying for it to come to Australia? NO!! So why should UBI have to pay for a service to get it to Australia and give it away free or better still it will be a FTA service but the people that want it in Australia have to pay the Satellite operator to send it here. It is very simple to understand. Why should UBI pay for something to give it to you for nothing? if Cyprus Sat is paying for the signal to come out here fair enough but they are not. It is very easy to understand, in simple terms bandwidth on fibre optic or bandwidth on a satellite cost money and would you give away something for nothing if it cost you money? If you were a truck driver that drove from Sydney to Brisbane someone has to pay for the cartage. Even if the goods out the back are free and because there is 1000km involved who's paying the fuel bill for those free items? It's funny this is so simple to understand and yet people still have trouble understanding it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />
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#17853
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:06:AM
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I'll give you another senario, it is a free service from UBI but you have to pay the satellite/fibre optic operators which are contractors and have nothing to do with UBI $10 a month just to get this one channel here per customer. This way UBI are out of it but at the end of the day the customer is still going to pay.
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#17854
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:09:AM
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Yep anyway i think RIK in Cyprus have sold the rights to UBI anyway and as RIK dont pay for it to come here UBI can do as they wish with it as they are paying for everything
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#17855
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:12:AM
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Phil,<br /><br />people are saying and they claim that the Cyprus Government are paying for this service to reach Australia. Some people also claim that they have spoken with the Consul General of Cyprus at The Cyprus High Commission. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />
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#17856
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:12:AM
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If UBI are paying for it the customers in Australia will be paying for it. Now this is my opinion!!.
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#17857
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:14:AM
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Why hasen't RIK released anything official saying all this they should really post something on there site or a press release of something saying what there plans are as of this moment there website is useless and they never reply to emails
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#17858
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:16:AM
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Well the truth will come out soon, If you have the official letter saying who is paying for it I will put it here,NOW I SAY A OFFICIAL LETTER. If you spread rumours and produce no evidence I WILL BAN THE PERSON IMMEDIATELY <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />
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#17859
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:19:AM
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it depends on the contract between RIK and UBI. <br /><br />if RIK asked UBI to broadcast it FTA (like TRT did) no matter how much it cost to bring it to Australia UBI cannot encrypt it.<br /><br />Liski might know the details of the contract if there is one.
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#17860
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:19:AM
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I'm sick of people saying he heard if from his brothers, wifes, uncle, sisters, the bloke that works at the door. I want evidence no rumours and if you put put a official document on this forum and you edit it I will pass it to the correct authorities.
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#17861
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:22:AM
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<img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> Not spreading any rumours at all. Just asking is it going to be FTA or not? I hear rumours going both ways and would just like the matter to be cleared up.<br /><br />If you do not know, then I apologise but all I am doing is asking a simple question.<br /><br />Tomorrow I will call The Cyprus High Commission and try to find out. If I can come up with any factual information then I will post it here. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" />
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#17862
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:24:AM
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Well you never know it might stay FTA but all the other Greek channels will be encrypted so it might be a good ploy for UBI to attract you to their satellite. But at the end of the day you still will not be able to view it with a UBI box as they are a Pay TV box only.
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#17863
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:25:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Evagoras Paligaridis:<br /><strong> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> Not spreading any rumours at all. Just asking is it going to be FTA or not? I hear rumours going both ways and would just like the matter to be cleared up.<br /><br />If you do not know, then I apologise but all I am doing is asking a simple question.<br /><br />Tomorrow I will call The Cyprus High Commission and try to find out. If I can come up with any factual information then I will post it here. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">here you go again RUMOURS
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#17864
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:28:AM
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Please get accurate written evidence and pass it to me. I will not allow anything else because how do I know its correct or its a case of my brothers sister boss nephew told me. I think you all get the point.<br />I'm being fair here... I WANT THE EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#17865
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:29:AM
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lol, r*mours are r*mours i see your point Phill and i agree with you, in the meantime just enjoy the channel i say <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
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#17866
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:30:AM
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I want evidence!!!!!!!!!!!!!! give it to me!!!! written and signed.
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#17867
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:32:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ShaRp:<br /><strong> it depends on the contract between RIK and UBI. <br /><br />if RIK asked UBI to broadcast it FTA (like TRT did) no matter how much it cost to bring it to Australia UBI cannot encrypt it.<br /><br />Liski might know the details of the contract if there is one. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">be honest sharp If this is the case would you bring it to Australia if it was costing you say 1 million a year??
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#17868
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:35:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by georgeflazarou:<br /><strong> lol, r*mours are r*mours i see your point Phill and i agree with you, in the meantime just enjoy the channel i say <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Like i sad if you put a rumour on this forum i will remove you, I hate rumour i want the correct written facts. this is very simple to understand <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
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#17869
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:36:AM
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I am not spreading rumours or misinformation. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br /><br />I do understand your point and am not spreading rumours. Would just like to find out the truth.<br /><br />Anyway as I stated earlier I am going to try to find out some truthfull information from The Cyprus High Commission in Canberra. As Cyprus Sat is a state run service like ERT and TRT, then they probably do have some info. If I find anything out then I will PM you phil before I post it on the forum.<br /><br />As far as RIK TV website, they are hopeless. They don't update it for long periods of time and I too never get a reply to my emails. There have also been no official press releases from the Government sites.
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#17870
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:36:AM
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i wouldn't. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> but i wouldn't sign that contract either.
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#17871
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:37:AM
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it looks like nobodys replying now Phil, because nobody has the facts lol
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#17872
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:43:AM
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Thats good<br />I have been to lenient in the past and i have paid the price of allowing people to walk over me. Not anymore!!!!! I being fair here I will say it again please supply me a official letter and please don't doctor it because you might get a shock I want the truth and truth only then we all can discuss it.
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#17873
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:44:AM
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But if a state pays a fee and profit margin to deliver and carry a particular channel to Australia, then I am sure that UBI would do this. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />
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#17874
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:47:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Evagoras Paligaridis:<br /><strong> I am not spreading rumours or misinformation. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br /><br />I do understand your point and am not spreading rumours. Would just like to find out the truth.<br /><br />Anyway as I stated earlier I am going to try to find out some truthfull information from The Cyprus High Commission in Canberra. As Cyprus Sat is a state run service like ERT and TRT, then they probably do have some info. If I find anything out then I will PM you phil before I post it on the forum.<br /><br />As far as RIK TV website, they are hopeless. They don't update it for long periods of time and I too never get a reply to my emails. There have also been no official press releases from the Government sites. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Again it must be in writing only with the official stamp on it. I don't allow verbal conversations anymore I want HARD CONCRETE FACTS!!
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#17875
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:47:AM
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I am going to try and find out the truth on official letter. And if I can achieve this then I will post it on this forum.<br /><br />I will only post something that is official and not something that is bull....!
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#17876
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:52:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Evagoras Paligaridis:<br /><strong> But if a state pays a fee and profit margin to deliver and carry a particular channel to Australia, then I am sure that UBI would do this. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If this is the case then so be it but who is paying for the space on the UBI transponder?? thats expensive alone. If this is the case pass it to Globecast on the same satellite but they won't touch it as they want and need to be paid for the space used on there transponder. someone must pay!!!. and I cant see Cyprus Sat paying for the spot on UBI's or Globecasts transponder.
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#17877
Mon 03 Oct 2005 03:53:AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Evagoras Paligaridis:<br /><strong> I am going to try and find out the truth on official letter. And if I can achieve this then I will post it on this forum.<br /><br />I will only post something that is official and not something that is bull....! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">thankyou!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
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#17878
Mon 03 Oct 2005 04:03:AM
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But if the state wants it FTA such as is the case with TRT, then it will pay necessary fees for it to be FTA, including transponder fees.
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#17879
Mon 03 Oct 2005 04:07:AM
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Will see what happens <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
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#17880
Mon 03 Oct 2005 04:08:AM
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Yes we will <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />
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#17881
Mon 03 Oct 2005 04:36:AM
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Thank God for that!! Tomorrow I will do my own sniffing around.
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#17882
Mon 03 Oct 2005 04:38:AM
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That would be great Phil. We will see if we can come up with something <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />
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