International Media <br />Advertising on Terror TV <br /><br />By Mark Dubowitz, Roberta Bonazzi<br /> <br />The National Post <br />October 18, 2005 <br /><br />In one episode of the 29-part Ramadan TV special Al-Shatat, The Diaspora, a rabbi orders his young son to kidnap a Christian friend so that his throat can be slit and the blood drained into a bedpan to be used to make food for Passover. The rest of the series tells the usual anti-Semitic plot of alleged Jewish aspirations for world domination. This TV show is just one example of the programming run by Hezbollah's global satellite channel, al-Manar. The spread of this kind of hatred is despicable in any context. But when it is broadcast to millions of viewers by terrorists intent on destroying lives, it becomes a weapon of global jihad.<br /><br />Al-Manar routinely runs videos encouraging children to become suicide bombers, calls for terrorists to attack coalition soldiers in Iraq and promises that "martyrs" will be rewarded in the afterlife. <br /><br />Hezbollah established al-Manar in 1991 as an operational weapon to incite hatred and violence, and recruit children and adults as terrorists. According to al-Manar officials interviewed by Hezbollah expert Avi Jorisch for his book Beacon of Hatred, the station's programming is meant to "help people on the way to committing what you call in the West a suicide mission." Viewers are told: "The path to becoming a priest in Islam is through jihad," as Hezbollah's secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah said in a speech on March 23, 2002. Every day al-Manar reaches millions of Arabic speakers in the Middle East, Europe and North Africa.<br /><br />These are the only areas where the station is available today. When made aware of al-Manar's programming, seven satellite providers -- based in France, Spain, Holland, Hong Kong, Australia and Barbados -- decided that it was contrary to laws or basic decency, and ceased their broadcasts. These satellite providers recognized that far from being a freedom of expression issue, calls to murder can never be a legitimate part of the public debate.<br /><br />But two satellite companies continue to broadcast the station's programming: Arabsat, whose largest shareholder is the Saudi government, and Nilesat, which is majority-owned by the Egyptian government. The footprint of these two providers covers all of Europe, from Spain to southern Sweden and the Balkans. It extends to North Africa and the Middle East. As a result, Arabic speakers in Paris, London, Madrid and elsewhere continue to have access to a station that fosters a culture of terrorism 24 hours a day, seven days a week. The European Union must pressure the Saudi and Egyptian governments to stop broadcasting this hatred to impressionable young Muslims in Europe.<br /><br />That's the political part of the fight against al-Manar. But there is also a commercial side to it. While a large part of al-Manar's operating budget comes from Iran (which also funds Hezbollah), a significant portion is derived from ad revenue. There are a handful of multinational corporations that still advertise on al-Manar, indirectly endorsing its message of hatred and violence and directly supporting its operations by paying for air time.<br /><br />Within the past few months, al-Manar broadcasted ads for products from the following companies: Nissan; Korean electronics maker LG; Tefal, a subsidiary of France-based Groupe SEB that produces home cooking products; Swiss watch manufacturer Jovial; and Cellis-Alpha, a cellular SIM card provider owned by Fal Dete Telecommunications, a Saudi-German consortium majority-owned by Detecon, which in turn is a subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom.<br /><br />We contacted the companies about this issue. A spokesman for Tefal denied that its products were ever advertised on al-Manar. A spokesman for Nissan said the company was unaware that its ads were running on al-Manar; after investigating the matter, he said the spots were placed by a local dealer, and that the ads would stop at year's end. The head of the LG liaison office in Lebanon said the ads were placed by a local agent and only during the recent Lebanese elections because al-Manar attracted a particularly large number of viewers during that time. He said he would prefer not to advertise on al-Manar again, but added that he first had to discuss the issue with LG's regional headquarters in Dubai. A spokesman for Jovial wasn't able to comment and did not provide further details on the company's position. Fal-Dete-Telecommunications said they were not aware of the situation and that they are taking the matter seriously. They are currently making inquiries with their partners in Lebanon.<br /><br />While it is possible that these companies were not always aware that their ads were being placed on al-Manar, ignorance in this case is no excuse. Many of the world's largest corporations -- including Pepsi, Coca-Cola, Procter & Gamble and Western Union -- stopped buying time on al-Manar more than three years ago once they realized what their ad dollars were supporting. Those companies still advertising on al-Manar should follow the example of the many governments and private and public firms that have ended their relationship with al-Manar. They should immediately pull any remaining ads and institute a permanent ban on future advertising.<br /><br />Western lives and values are under attack by Islamic extremists. Responsible companies should have no relationship with terrorist organizations. To do otherwise is to send a worrying signal to their customers, a message that seems to say that their lives are worth less than the sale of a few extra cars, watches, cellphones and home cooking products. At the very least, that cannot be good for business.

boringggggg...

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Someone wanted to know a bit more about it in the other thread.<br /><br />Obviously this was before Tarbs added it on Telstar 10

Hey apsattv if it was not on a UBI transponder would you be concerned about it?.<br />If I was you I would be concerned about how easy it was for Israeli Mosad spies to enter New Zealand to gain a easy NZ passport to enter other countries using a NZ passport to commit Murder on its citizens.<br />Ask the French they know all about this. We have a habbit to blame the Arabs for everything and I can tell you the Jews are no saints.

The 2 persons who wrote that story above are Jewish people

Keep your news stories for your site

I don't understand why you're making a huge fuss about Al Manar, yet you've maintained absolute silence when it comes to NTV Hayat from Sarajevo. That TV station glorified mujahedeen in Bosnia, celebrated and praised butchers such as Celo, Caco and others who massacred thousands of innocent Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats, and continues to engage in hate speech against Republika Srpska. Why don't you post something about them?

Liski keep your head buried in the sand<br /><br />"Al-Manar routinely runs videos encouraging children to become suicide bombers, calls for terrorists to attack coalition soldiers in Iraq and promises that "martyrs" will be rewarded in the afterlife. "<br /><br />Tarbs / Ubi can do a lot better than show this stuff.

afrisat...the serbs are the ones who started the war in the first place so dont complain

NTV Hayat hasn't been banned practically worldwide like Al Manar has.

We all know that apsattv but yourself and the rest on this forum can see straight through you and we all know you're only bringing this up because Al-manar is on a UBI transponder, I bet you wouldn't even bother if it was on another satellite. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

It won't be on any other satellite because no other broadcaster will touch it. Other than Arabsat/Nilesat.<br /><br />Whats in it for UBI to broadcast this channel?<br /><br />I know you won't answer that one..

Alcatron - you have a twisted mind. Even if the Bosnian Serbs did start the war (which they did NOT - the Muslims are the ones who launched the war by gunning down Nikola Gardovic in downtown Sarajevo on March 1, 1992), that would still not be an excuse for NTV Hayat to praise mujahedeen war criminals who killed innocent Bosnian Serb and Croat civilians. Shame on you.

Apsattv starting a political war <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

I know that the bosnian serbs did not start it, but the "serbia the country" did, back in early 1990s they were getting ready for the invasion, they wanted all of bosnia, croatia, kosovo, & slovenia to themselves. But the serbs did not get their way and i hate having the republika srpska in bosnia and the country divided in two, it should all be as one!!!<br />This karadzic and mladic need to be caught as well they are causing problems to my country from progressing further in the EU!<br />And also you said the muslims killed innocent serb and croat civilians.....who did the serbs kill?? what about srebrenica remember that?? So please dont give me the crap "Shame on You" bullshit

Alcatron - I'm glad your real views are coming out. Keep it up -- the more you try to choke the Bosnian Serbs, the more that they will seek to distance themselves from the claws of you and your mujahedeen friends. And I fully understand why the Bosnian Croats want to establish a third entity soon, so that they too can have independence from your "love" and "affection".

Sorry boys but please behave yourselves otherwise this thread will be locked

Yes this topic will be closed soon if this continues

From what I know Al Manar is no longer on Telstar10

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Liski:<br /><strong> From what I know Al Manar is no longer on Telstar10 </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That should make apsattv happy now

Interesting<br /><br />Were they told to take it down? or was it their choice?

Yes Al-Manar sent me a pm via my crystal ball <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> and told me that sir apsattv complained <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> .

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by alcatron:<br /><strong> afrisat...the serbs are the ones who started the war in the first place so dont complain </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Alcatron, be careful what are you saying. It may be your opinion but you're very wrong. For a war you need two sides (at least)<br />Bosnian muslims voted for separation from Yugoslavia, Serbs voted to stay within Yugoslav Federation...<br />Simply, Serbs wanted to stay in one country, Yugoslavia. There were almost no problems letting Slovenia go out of Yugoslav Federation because in Slovenia over 95% of population was Slovenians. But 1/3 of population in Croatia were serbian and even more serbian people in Bosnia...<br />You hate Republika Srpska and you would like to have only one entity in Bosnia? But I bet you liked splitting Yugoslavia into 6 independent "states". Now you asking to make little Yugoslavia in Bosnia so we can all live together in one state???<br />We had it since King Alexander proclaimed Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes and it didn't work out... I had a great life in good old Yugoslavia as well as majority of its people...<br />Today, Bosnia is independent country but its people are poor regardless of their religion... I go there almost every year and spending couple of months with my old friends both muslims and croats. Everybody wants to leave... There are only three types of people staying in Bosnia: <br />1. Elderly people (because they're too old and nobody wants them)<br />2. Thieves (because they are living like a kings)<br />and,<br />3. Poor people that have nobody to help them to escape their misery...<br /><br />One statistic;<br />Former Yugoslavia had one of the lowest suicide deaths in Europe.<br />Today, it's on the top of worlds list <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <br />And for a reminder;<br />First causalities were Serbs killed on wedding party by muslim extremists...

Come on Phill.<br /><br />A U.S operated satellite broadcasting a terrorist funded channel into that part of the world!<br /><br />That's why I said in the other thread they were risking their entire service for the sake of one controversial channel.<br /><br />Hopefully that's simple enough for them to understand..

The latest I've heard is they will be using their satellite in the near future so I wonder what will happen then, Send a missile up there to blow it up. They will be back you have to know that.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I don't understand why you're making a huge fuss about Al Manar, yet you've maintained absolute silence when it comes to NTV Hayat from Sarajevo. That TV station glorified mujahedeen in Bosnia, celebrated and praised butchers such as Celo, Caco and others who massacred thousands of innocent Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats, and continues to engage in hate speech against Republika Srpska. Why don't you post something about them?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">How old are you afrisat? <br />You must be kidding, trying to sell your bullshit propaganda on "satellite forums"-so there won't be response for "your over and over "so called truth" when we all know when why and how it happened.<br />Can't you see who is hiding war criminals who is supporting killing (there is little or no difference between you narrow minded people and AL-qaeda supporters. What about BN TV there is only stories We Serbs this ,we Serbs that as there is no one else in this world than"Serbs the sky people" is that the saying?<br />So YUG...nick name is telling as about one incident that started the "war". Was that the president or someone so important to start the war how many bombs before that how many self proclaimed "Serb autonomous regions "in Bosnia before anything started?<br />What happened in village Ravno before that or in Croatia in Vukovar or who started all that self rule taking down democratically elected rep. from Vojvodina and Kosovo and and..<br />STOP bullshitting US PLEASE and for reference go to the Hague International Tribunal for war criminals ans see who is there and why.<br />Please I'm not going to reply on this because this is nice info forum for satellite programing, but I'll not let you talk bullshit any more because it is time for you people to accept the truth that is there not presented by "Turks" as you like to call them but international community.<br />Stop hiding and trying to sell it here,if you cannot do it where you should try..You are so pathetic that when I read your stupid stories I have to vomit.<br />Sorry guys I'm going to enjoy reading good news that UBI is presenting to us.<br />I'm out of here

rex68 i agree, and you see afrisat started all this he should have never mentioned ntv hayat in a al manar thread and none of this would have happened....

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> Whats in it for UBI to broadcast this channel?<br />I know you won't answer that one.. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I will though.<br /><br />Who cares, and why does it seem to be your mission in life to rub salt into the wound?<br /><br />Gee you can not not even see this C Band channel from your location, so how can you comment on the content?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by jonc:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> Whats in it for UBI to broadcast this channel?<br />I know you won't answer that one.. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I will though.<br /><br />Who cares, and why does it seem to be your mission in life to rub salt into the wound?<br /><br />Gee you can not not even see this C Band channel from your location, so how can you comment on the content? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If it's got to do with UBI/Tarbs apsattv will be there to try dig up some dirt on it and be negative in anyway he can

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by LAZERSAT:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by jonc:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> Whats in it for UBI to broadcast this channel?<br />I know you won't answer that one.. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I will though.<br /><br />Who cares, and why does it seem to be your mission in life to rub salt into the wound?<br /><br />Gee you can not not even see this C Band channel from your location, so how can you comment on the content? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If it's got to do with UBI/Tarbs apsattv will be there to try dig up some dirt on it and be negative in anyway he can </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think in apsattv early childhood he must have been mistreated by someone with a name like Taaarber or Ubieena or some like that and this is the reason why he cant stand the companies. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Or is it because he is the opposite than an Arab.

I can now understand that all apsattv's whinging about tarbs/ubi is because of the arab/jew conflict. He's a jew and ubi is a arab owned company. that's a good enough reason for him to hate ubi.<br /><br />It's disgusting to see these religous/racist posts on this thread. I really dont wanna see all those serbian craps. International Tribunal for war criminals will take care of that issue not us. I'm not interested to see them on a satellite forum.

I'm a Jew??<br />uh no!

here goes my theory down the drain. my apologies then.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ShaRp:<br /><strong> here goes my theory down the drain. my apologies then. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">"Serbian Crap" is another of your theories going down the drain <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br />BTW, Int. Tribunal is prosecuting bosnian muslim commanders for massacre of serbian and croatian civilians too... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" />

You don't think he would admit it do you?? In my Hate pm's a month ago about banning appsatv do you know that around 30% said the above. And there were some good reasons why and one was that he never complained about the Jewish spies that entered his country (NZ)to obtain false passports but he is worried about Al-Manar on a Satellite that cant even reach NZ.

I don't think so Phil. if he says he's not i believe that. why would someone hide his religion?<br /><br />TU4CFG, I didn't have a theory about serbs. so it can't go down the drain. u just keep your thoughts to urself. that'll do. I'm happy as long as nobody is murdering or raping each other over there.<br /><br />i don't wanna see religion/nationality related posts here. that's all I said/want.

Yes keep religion out of this forum but for Apsattv I will try to find that link that i spotted months ago. I think it was in googles and it spoke about apsattv something like the above if not worst.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ShaRp:<br /><strong> I don't think so Phil. if he says he's not i believe that. why would someone hide his religion?<br /><br />TU4CFG, I didn't have a theory about serbs. so it can't go down the drain. u just keep your thoughts to urself. that'll do. I'm happy as long as nobody is murdering or raping each other over there.<br /><br />i don't wanna see religion/nationality related posts here. that's all I said/want. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">He will never admit it if he is otherwise it will blow his cover. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

What? next you will suggest i'm really Rupert Murdoch?<br /><br />if it makes any difference to you all I have no religion.